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Posted
5 hours ago, DLW said:

Not Taylor retweeting only the 100/100 reviews on twitter 

 

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Love her but this is truly giving Gaga during the Artpop meltdowns :deadbanana:

 

Anyway I love the album, but I also believe that some push back by critics, which she obviously seems to care a lot about, can only be healthy for her to motivate her in exploring new and fresh sounds and narratives on TS12. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

She could be releasing God-tier albums, but I genuinely think she lacks the gutsiness of Madonna, Beyoncé or Janet to go there. We're never getting a Velvet Rope, ST or Ray of Light from her. Folkmore is as good as its getting.

Honestly part of me thinks Taylor purposefully phones in certain albums so she can come back stronger in the future. I think she needs to be "pushed" into doing great work. She has nothing to prove right now, so we're not getting her best. 

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1 hour ago, justin. said:

"Bubblegum club beat."
 

They are literally throwing words together at this point.

That's how communication is achieved, sweetie. 
 

 

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Yog said:

If this gets lower than puta.. :biblio:

It won't. It will end up between 77 and 80. there should be a few reviews left

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Just now, family.guy123 said:

That's how communication is achieved, sweetie. 
 

 

You have been fuming for 72+ hours straight now. Ain't you tired Miss Hilly?

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78% is literally a really good score and not bad at all. People are just freaking out because she was on a critical streak with Folklore (88%), Evermore(85%) and Midnights (85%). She couldn't keep that up forever. I'm glad critics are pointing out how boring the damn album is. This review from NME sums up my thoughts perfectly: 

 

 

"Ultimately this record lacks the genuinely interesting shifts that have punctuated Swift's career so far, from the lyrical excellence on her superior breakup album 'Red' to '1989''s pivot to high-octane pop."

 

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50 minutes ago, ttsmu said:

The score is down to 78

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Posted
8 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said:

So all OTHs here lmfao

 

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This is getting too funny actually 

Well, duh. It's not like they can enter the Spotify, Apple, Amazon, Youtube Music or HDD threads :sistrens: 

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On 4/19/2024 at 12:03 PM, Cloröx said:

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The Independent: 5/5

Rolling Stone: 5/5

Variety: Positive

The Irish Times: 4.5/5

Clash: 8/10

Dork: 4/5

Los Angeles Times: Positive (80)

The Guardian: 4/5

The Line of Best Fit: 8/10

The Telegraph: 4/5

The AV Club: B (75)

The Forty-Five: 3.5/5

NME: 3/5

Evening Standard: 2/5

 

 

Metacritic: 84 (12 reviews)

AOTY: 78 (9 reviews)

The OP needs to be comically updated with the Paste Magazine Picture Anonymous photo. :lmao:

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She retweeting only the 100/100 reviews only confirms (once again) the kind of person she is. She's so unlikeable, omg. :katie:

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13 minutes ago, Machete said:

It's crazy how in the era we live in a 78 is considered panned for pop girls. I mean it's true, but a mere 8 years ago this would've been an excellent score stans celebrate about :deadbanana4:

well yes but 8 years ago album like this would be sitting at 68 :suburban:

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8 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

She could be releasing God-tier albums, but I genuinely think she lacks the gutsiness of Madonna, Beyoncé or Janet to go there. We're never getting a Velvet Rope, ST or Ray of Light from her. Folkmore is as good as its getting.

I honestly think you're underestimating her.

 

She just hasn't changed her formula because it was working well.... until now.

 

She already made some great rock songs on Red TV. She was also experimenting with that sound on the 1989 WT.

 

She just needs to be unafraid to experiment because she even has the pipes to make an album as good as an Olivia/Paramore one if she wanted to. And it would be better because it would have her own personal touch to it.

 

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If it weren't for the obvious Swifties who wrote the 100/100 reviews... :biblio:

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Not this album having a lower Metacritic score than LOSER.......... we have truly lost the plot . :suburban:

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6 minutes ago, ttsmu said:

She retweeting only the 100/100 reviews only confirms (once again) the kind of person she is. She's so unlikeable, omg. :katie:

Well, duh? Why would she be retweeting the negative reviews? Be serious for once please. :toofunny3:

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4 minutes ago, Disconnect said:

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She just needs to be unafraid to experiment because she even has the pipes to make an album as good as an Olivia/Paramore one if she wanted to. Abecause it would have her own personal touch to it.

 

I'm sure she has the pipes, but not for serving vocals.

 

The delusion.

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Just now, Patient Zero said:

I'm sure she has the pipes, but not for serving vocals.

 

The delusion.

You'll see...

Posted
4 minutes ago, Timeless said:

Not this album having a lower Metacritic score than LOSER.......... we have truly lost the plot . :suburban:

Well Lover has always been highly underrated if you ask me.

 

It has a lot of great songs but it was (almost) ruined by the very few lame and corny songs on it, especially the lead.

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Just now, Timeless said:

Well, duh? Why would she be retweeting the negative reviews? Be serious for once please. :toofunny3:

Because the point is that it's concerning that she doesn't acknowledge criticism. It's a shame because she is capable of making a good album again but she needs to step away from Jack and Aaron to do it, but if she's only listening to the critics that are licking her ass then :michael:

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21 minutes ago, Disconnect said:

I honestly think you're underestimating her.

 

She just hasn't changed her formula because it was working well.... until now.

 

She already made some great rock songs on Red TV. She was also experimenting with that sound on the 1989 WT.

 

She just needs to be unafraid to experiment because she even has the pipes to make an album as good as an Olivia/Paramore one if she wanted to. And it would be better because it would have her own personal touch to it.

Maybe I am underestimating her, but over the course of her career, the risks taken (from her musical pivots to her political declarations) have always been calculated to nth degree. She is, to her core, a very safe artist and I'm not even saying this as an insult. It's the reason she's had the longevity she has and why she's made it this far, but the music has suffered as a result.

 

(Stuff like this is why I, maybe irrationally, resent her for having 4 AOTYs. She just isn't on the level of Stevie Wonder, Prince, The Beatles, etc. when it comes to experimentation, nor does she have Madonna, Janet or Beyoncé's risk-taking attitude. She's... good, but not 4 AOTYs good.)

 

There are many possibilities she could pursue, but she knows the kind of fanbase she has and, unlike Madonna or Beyoncé, she's too afraid to alienate it.

 

I would love to see her explore some State of Grace-style arena rock, or maybe some jangle pop in the vein of The Sundays or The Cranberries (So High School gave me that vibe but without, you know, the jangly guitars :dies:) or, hell, maybe even some downtempo electronica. But I'm not betting on it. The incentive isn't there.

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15 minutes ago, Disconnect said:

I honestly think you're underestimating her.

 

She just hasn't changed her formula because it was working well.... until now.

 

She already made some great rock songs on Red TV. She was also experimenting with that sound on the 1989 WT.

 

She just needs to be unafraid to experiment because she even has the pipes to make an album as good as an Olivia/Paramore one if she wanted to. And it would be better because it would have her own personal touch to it.

 

I believe that she consciously limits herself because if she were to leave the "high school" style of storytelling and become an "adult-coded" musician like Lana, Adele and Madonna, it would affect the target group's interest in her.
When I watched the Eras Tour film, the shots almost always showed teenagers and college students.

I think she is aware that a lot of her commercial success lies in that audience. Adult audiences will not manically stream and buy albums (all 15 versions). They will not go to more concerts on the tour. One version is enough for an adult, which I guess they will just stream on Spotify and they will probably only go to one concert.

Teenagers and students are more prone to do such "manic things". And thus they create hype around her. This attracts the interest of both the critics and the Academy, because they all have an interest in Taylor Swift. They all have an interest in giving her good reviews and AOTY. It's good for sales, it's good for viewership.

If she became a fully adult coded musician (like Lana, for example), it would reflect on the business,commercial success and consequently critical acclaim and awards . And that's why I believe that she consciously limits herself.

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1 minute ago, Burn said:

Because the point is that it's concerning that she doesn't acknowledge criticism. It's a shame because she is capable of making a good album again but she needs to step away from Jack and Aaron to do it, but if she's only listening to the critics that are licking her ass then :michael:

She's just showing public appreciation for the positive reviews lmao it's not as deep as you're making it to be. To assume that she's not gonna take into account the negative ones just because she's not acknowledging them publicly is just stupidity lol.
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Taylor is notorious for appeasing her critics and making sure she improves with every work. That's how we managed to get folklore after Lover's critic backlash. 

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I did not expect to wake up to 78. This is Chromatica territory goodness. :gaygacat3:

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78 is fine. It's a decent album but not her best for sure.

Posted
22 hours ago, Johnny said:

Yes. This positive review, 90 from Sputnik, 100 from AS, and an 8.5 have yet to be added.

They still haven't added these to Metacritic right ?

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