NordicGuy Posted April 15 Posted April 15 4 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: *stares in evermore title track* *blinks in Birch* Oh I do agree! Evermore in particular is gorgeous. 1
Peak Now Posted April 15 Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, Gladiator said: I think I remember from somewhere that Taylor is generous when sharing writing credits. Like if someone comes up with a new melody for the same lyric, I think she credits them in writing. But I could totally be making that up. Not exactly that but many cowriters have stated Taylor does most of the heavy lifting (e.g. Liz Rose, Imogen Heap, even Max Martin during the Shake It Off case)
Mandalore Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 minute ago, NordicGuy said: The writing credits aren't only about the lyrics or the melody. If she builds a song on an instrumental made by someone that someone will be credited as a songwriter even if they didn't write one word for the song. So most of these tracks are probably still "written" by her alone but she simply wrote them on top of instrumentals made by Jack or Aaron. I am aware of that, I assume he was talking about the actual lyrics though. That's the part I think she's very generous about. 1
NoOneDiesFromLove Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Who's Afraid of Little of Me the self written SOTY that you are
Mandalore Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 minute ago, State of Grace. said: ANOTHER album with Jack AntoNOff all over it. I prayed for at least 8 Aaron tracks...mais quelle surprise! Glad I didn't set any expectations for this record like I did with Mids. 8 vs 5. He's probably all over the bonus tracks too. How is this similar to midnights (standard edition)?
Magickarp Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 4/12/2024 at 2:05 AM, Magickarp said: i am WILLING to settle for this as long as Jack isn't touching THOSE songs, i won. Fortnight 3:48 Bell The Tortured Poets Department 4:53 Aaron My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 3:23 Jack Down Bad 4:21 Jack So Long, London 4:22 Aaron But Daddy I Love Him 5:40 Aaron Fresh Out the Slammer 3:30 Jack "Florida!!! 3:35 Jack "Guilty as Sin?" 4:14 Jack Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? 5:34 Jack I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) 2:36 Jack Loml 4:37 Jack I Can Do It with a Broken Heart 3:38 Aaron The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived 4:05 Jack The Alchemy 3:16 Jack Clara Bow 3:36 Aaron I can't complain really. I got 3/5 songs i wanted Aaron to be on. 12/16 were right, assuming 🤔 was produced by Hack, which they likely are. Unfortunate that Aaron did not get TTPD & Broken Heart, but trading those for Smallest Man & Loml is ok, not optimal, but ok. I WISH there was more Aaron, but i did say i was willing to SETTLE for 5 ✅ Fortnight 3:48 Bell (technically Antonoff, but he's basically bell 2.0 anyway x) ❌ The Tortured Poets Department 4:53 Aaron 🤔 My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 3:23 Jack ✅ Down Bad 4:21 Jack ✅ So Long, London 4:22 Aaron ✅ But Daddy I Love Him 5:40 Aaron ✅ Fresh Out the Slammer 3:30 Jack 🤔 "Florida!!! 3:35 Jack ✅ "Guilty as Sin?" 4:14 Jack 🤔 Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? 5:34 Jack ✅ I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) 2:36 Jack ❌ Loml 4:37 Jack ❌ I Can Do It with a Broken Heart 3:38 Aaron ❌ The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived 4:05 Jack ✅ The Alchemy 3:16 Jack ✅ Clara Bow 3:36 Aaron 1
Vespertine Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 minute ago, NoOneDiesFromLove said: Who's Afraid of Little of Me the self written SOTY that you are Hopefully a Dessner production
1989 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, Mandalore said: Taylor is VERY generous with writing credits, Aaron Dessner is credited for Cardigan but he shared the first draft she sent him of the song and it's almost the same, bar a verse or two changed. This, plus if I'm remembering correctly, it was the same case with Willow. Also, we know Dorothea was likely solely written by Taylor because the instrumental was Aaron's from years ago. 1
Cruel Summer Posted April 15 Posted April 15 If we all recall that Jack can, in fact, do more than synth pop - see Lana's NFR! album for example - this track list with these two producers both decently involved is really kinda giving Evermore 1
JorgeM Posted April 15 Posted April 15 13 minutes ago, PatrickGray.12 said: I'm sorry. Thanks for sharing
selena_lavigne Posted April 15 Posted April 15 We stan Daddy Aaron when he works with Mother's best friend.
Peak Now Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Magickarp said: I can't complain really. I got 3/5 songs i wanted Aaron to be on. 12/16 were right, assuming 🤔 was produced by Hack, which they likely are. Unfortunate that Aaron did not get TTPD & Broken Heart, but trading those for Smallest Man & Loml is ok, not optimal, but ok. I WISH there was more Aaron, but i did say i was willing to SETTLE for 5 ✅ Fortnight 3:48 Bell (technically Antonoff, but he's basically bell 2.0 anyway x) ❌ The Tortured Poets Department 4:53 Aaron 🤔 My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 3:23 Jack ✅ Down Bad 4:21 Jack ✅ So Long, London 4:22 Aaron ✅ But Daddy I Love Him 5:40 Aaron ✅ Fresh Out the Slammer 3:30 Jack 🤔 "Florida!!! 3:35 Jack ✅ "Guilty as Sin?" 4:14 Jack 🤔 Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? 5:34 Jack ✅ I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) 2:36 Jack ❌ Loml 4:37 Jack ❌ I Can Do It with a Broken Heart 3:38 Aaron ❌ The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived 4:05 Jack ✅ The Alchemy 3:16 Jack ✅ Clara Bow 3:36 Aaron I think Louis Bell was involved, didn't he repost the tracklist reveal or something?
Timeless Posted April 15 Posted April 15 ONLY FIVE AARON SONGS WTF?????/???????? JACK ANTONOFF YOU HAG I HATE YOU 7
Magickarp Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 minute ago, AndThenTheCocaine said: I think Louis Bell was involved, didn't he repost the tracklist reveal or something? Yeah he may have helped produce on Fortnight, but not write 1
Lille Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Cruel Summer said: If we all recall that Jack can, in fact, do more than synth pop - see Lana's NFR! album for example - this track list with these two producers both decently involved is really kinda giving Evermore I mean, even the majority of Midnights wasn't "synth pop". Certain users don't like Jack and don't even have the musical vocabulary to criticize him properly. 1
selena_lavigne Posted April 15 Posted April 15 I think now it's time for my cold shower. Oooo i love good news.
Peak Now Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Midnights (regular) had 11/13 = 85% Jack co-writes TTPD (regular) has 8/16 = 50% Jack co-writes an improvement 1
State of Grace. Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Mandalore said: 8 vs 5. He's probably all over the bonus tracks too. How is this similar to midnights (standard edition)? Well I would like to see the credits to those 4 bonus tracks first 1 minute ago, Cruel Summer said: If we all recall that Jack can, in fact, do more than synth pop - see Lana's NFR! album for example - this track list with these two producers both decently involved is really kinda giving Evermore The problem isn't Jack himself though, at least to me. He produced Ocean Blvd which is one of my favorite albums of the decade. But his work with Tay hasn't been exciting lately and I strongly believe they need a break from each other. A&W's production is...godly. Let's hope he puts some of that talentussy here. 2 1
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