album Taylor Swift - 'THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT'

[wastedpotential]

8 minutes ago, Achilles. said:

IDK what is considered obscure. Do you know about Joe Jonas attending one of the tour dates, which inspired her to write Holy Ground? Last Kiss has a 27 second intro because of that phone call, and Last Kiss and Haunted both cut off the last word despite her saying earlier on that "she always gets the last word.” The secret message of Dear John is a lyric from Superman. Mine is supposedly about some normie guy she dated in Nashville. There are conspiracies that John Mayer is a red herring and most of the songs are actually about ITWAM cowriter Martin Johnson. Multiple music critics have egotistically claimed to be the inspiration behind Mean. 

wait re the subject of Mine, I always thought it was about Cory Monteith nnn

 

Am I giving surface level fake fan? 

 

[Dear Reader]

1 minute ago, Teneo said:

When that guy covered Enchanted and changed the lyrics to "Taylor I was Enchanted to meet you too" trying to get some fame making it seem the song was about him and she never acknowledged that person's existence. A moment.

Okay, but when are we crossing the Credits Kern?

[Peak Now]

Just now, Achilles. said:

The way that she was dating Taylor Lautner at the time. No wonder she felt she owed him an apology. 
 

Oh I don't believe for one second she and the other Taylor were super serious. She was probably thinking about John Mayer the whole time unfortunately

 

[wastedpotential]

2 minutes ago, AndThenTheCocaine said:

It gets worse, they think All Too Well is about Martin Johnson 

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and for some reason the people who think this are usually g*ylors who think it's some kind of own

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which I really don't get, isn't Martin a dude? shouldn't they be focusing on Emily Poe or whoever 

 

 

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nnn by SN they ought to be mid-pivot to Dianna Agron 

 

[Maroon legacy]

If there are songs about any of her relationships except Joe on the album, it's probably Matty, not Travis. She started writing process in 2022 and finished around summer 2023. 
Since it's Joeover album and their relationship lasted a very long time, I can see it being without a "new love" chapter
 

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Would be funny if some of the songs are hopeful and talking about how Matty helped her to get past heartbreak, but people will say that they're about Travis, cause no one wants to remember Mister Healy 

 

[wastedpotential]

Just now, AndThenTheCocaine said:

Oh I don't believe for one second she and the other Taylor were super serious. She was probably thinking about John Mayer the whole time unfortunately

 

I mean the whole backflipping and podcasting would back this up - she wouldn't consider talking to him in private, let alone so publicly, if it was ever serious

 

[State of Grace.]

I don't want happy. I want art

 

[Dear Reader]

Just now, Maroon legacy said:

If there are songs about any of her relationships except Joe on the album, it's probably Matty, not Travis. She started writing process in 2022 and finished around summer 2023. 
Since it's Joeover album and their relationship lasted a very long time, I can see it being without a "new love" chapter
 

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Would be funny if some of the songs are hopeful and talking about how Matty helped her to get past heartbreak, but people will say that they're about Travis, cause no one wants to remember Mister Healy 

 

when ICFH is about Ratty and she wanted to make it QUICK!

[Achilles.]

1 minute ago, AndThenTheCocaine said:

Oh I don't believe for one second she and the other Taylor were super serious. She was probably thinking about John Mayer the whole time unfortunately

 

He will try to take away my pain

And he just might make me smile

But the whole time I'm wishing he was you instead

 

[desireetaylor]

cbf sifting through the latest pages but have the track LENGTHS been discussed yet? It looks like they're out no?

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[MidnightsAtPeace]

I'm still not over the fact that not only she had the audacity to remove Mean, Haunted, Our Song, and Last Kiss from the speak now tour setlist for the international legs, but she also changed the stage design and made it ugly 

[Peak Now]

1 minute ago, wastedpotential said:

wait re the subject of Mine, I always thought it was about Cory Monteith nnn

 

Am I giving surface level fake fan? 

 

That was the theory yes but I did see some people on Reddit say it was about some random dude from Texas
 

idgaf tbh it is a "fantasy of a perfect romance" first and foremost (paraphrasing her own words)

 

[Klein]

1 minute ago, Maroon legacy said:

If there are songs about any of her relationships except Joe on the album, it's probably Matty, not Travis. She started writing process in 2022 and finished around summer 2023. 
Since it's Joeover album and their relationship lasted a very long time, I can see it being without a "new love" chapter
 

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Would be funny if some of the songs are hopeful and talking about how Matty helped her to get past heartbreak, but people will say that they're about Travis, cause no one wants to remember Mister Healy 

 

I only accept Ratty songs if they are clearly about a rebound. I don't want no hope, no love, no real emotional connection depicted for him. 

[wastedpotential]

I wonder how Taylor Lautner is going to pay his mortgage once he runs out of things to say about the two times he kissed Taylor Swift on his podcast? The I Can See You video tanked (it's doing less in daily views than most of Lord's lyric videos nnn), and Taylor already had her one and done "I can be nice to my exes" moment re-hash. Are the Twilight residuals still going strong? Will we see him on the side of the highway in Los Angeles begging for a bit of screen time and attention? 

 

[wastedpotential]

1 minute ago, desireetaylor said:

cbf sifting through the latest pages but have the track LENGTHS been discussed yet? It looks like they're out no?

Oh babe go back like 20-25 pages for that convo 

[itsjem]

I always read everything but don't reply much cause I'm on mobile and for some reason it's bugged and it suddenly logged out and doesn't let me log in 

 

ANYWAYS I'D LIKE TO SHARE SOME TRUTHS

 

Midnights do be outside her top 5 albums for me (folklore, evemore, SN, Red, Fearless... yes, I'm A QUALITY STAN), but I was thinking WCS is a TOP-TIER LORD HYMN, among some of the best of her discography

 

Recently I've come to the conclusion that YES, FEARLESS is a top 5 album in her discography... the melodies are just too good, what can I say (It's about to make space for PTSD tho, I CAN FEEL IT)

 

From the moment PTSD was announced i felt like it was about to be the best thing she's ever put out AND I HOPE I PLANTED THE SEED AND I WILL SEE THE HARVEST  EVERYTHING GOING RIGHT SO FAR

 

That's it for now, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk

 

 

[Klein]

2 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

I don't want happy. I want art

 

I'd consider Begin Again happy/hopeful and be careful if you don't call it art

 

[1989]

Why did JM get some of her best songs? 
 

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Dear John 

The Story Of Us 

Haunted

Ours

Superman 

Electric Touch 

I Can See You

Foolish One 

 

of course the vault songs are unconfirmed, but they match the timeline and line up completely, so…

 

The way this is only Speak Now too, we haven't even gotten into the songs from other eras.

 

 

[Magickarp]

2 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

 I Can See You video tanked (it's doing less in daily views than most of Lord's lyric videos nnn)

and YET i got like 15 dislikes for dragging that amateurish MV

 

Time the ultimate truth teller

[Peak Now]

Oh there's this funny theory I read too

 

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Haunted is based on Twilight: New Moon; written from the perspective of Bella, "you" is Edward and "he" (as in "he will try to take away my pain") is Jacob

 

This may seem farfetched but do remember Taylor was a Twilight girlie and she did date the werewolf boy from the movie

 

[Klein]

1 minute ago, itsjem said:

Midnights do be outside her top 5 albums for me (folklore, evemore, SN, Red, Fearless... yes, I'm A QUALITY STAN), but I was thinking WCS is a TOP-TIER LORD HYMN, among some of the best of her discography

Well, you shared nothing but FACTS here

 

[Teneo]

5 minutes ago, Dear Reader said:

Okay, but when are we crossing the Credits Kern?

I think the ultimate gag would be if she credits William Bowery in these songs despite never having worked on them

 

neither

 

 

[MidnightsAtPeace]

1 minute ago, Magickarp said:

and YET i got like 15 dislikes for dragging that amateurish MV

 

well deserved.

it's a very good music video

[wastedpotential]

1 minute ago, itsjem said:

I always read everything but don't reply much cause I'm on mobile and for some reason it's bugged and it suddenly logged out and doesn't let me log in 

 

ANYWAYS I'D LIKE TO SHARE SOME TRUTHS

 

Midnights do be outside her top 5 albums for me (folklore, evemore, SN, Red, Fearless... yes, I'm A QUALITY STAN), but I was thinking WCS is a TOP-TIER LORD HYMN, among some of the best of her discography

 

Recently I've come to the conclusion that YES, FEARLESS is a top 5 album in her discography... the melodies are just too good, what can I say (It's about to make space for PTSD tho, I CAN FEEL IT)

 

From the moment PTSD was announced i felt like it was about to be the best thing she's ever put out AND I HOPE I PLANTED THE SEED AND I WILL SEE THE HARVEST  EVERYTHING GOING RIGHT SO FAR

 

That's it for now, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk

 

 

Oh you ARE a quality stan!

 

Fearless praisings are such a hallelujah to see because they're so rare

 

 

You really have her top 5 albums CORRECT! And that's hard to do because most people try to shove one of the pop albums in there but there's just NO space for Taylor performing anywhere but at her best

 

[State of Grace.]

1 minute ago, Klein said:

I'd consider Begin Again happy/hopeful and be careful if you don't call it art

 

She's a cute girl but I want ATW / SBT type of art if we're citing songs from that album