Klein Posted March 27 Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, Redstreak said: The tweet I was thinking of 💀 (not me) English is not my first language but even I knew machiavellian, gauche, illicit and altruism. 3 words to look over 2 albums is hardly thesaurus'd. 2
State of Grace. Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Klein said: What about the writing in Speak Now/Red and folklore/evermore is very different? I honestly find the type of writing on these two duos to be very different. SN/Red were a lot more about "instant" feelings. Like a raw reaction, when you are still fully in it. It is very reactive. While in folkmore the writting is much more "distant". It is written in hindsight. It's clear she did not just pour an emotion she felt into a song without taking a long time to truly understand everything it could mean. Reveal hidden contents At least it makes sense in my head, but I'm at work and I can't really articulate what I mean No I actually see what you mean and I completely agree nnn. The songwriting styles are very different. Red and SN have a specific autobiographical tone (like the majority of her music) and were about recent events in her life and basically her pouring her heart and fresh feelings into them. But she managed to keep her Swiftian magic touch with folkmore (like the subtle and not-so-obvious-to-the-average-listener hints at the masters fiasco on MTR and several songs being about Joe for example), that's why I love them a lot. Both albums owe so much to Red imo because it still felt like she returned to her roots through the lens of a much more matured songwriting. "the lines between fantasy and reality blur and the boundaries between truth and fiction become almost indiscernible" was a fantastic concept that shot her to new artistic heights, further cementing her as one of THEE best songwriters OAT. Edited March 27 by State of Grace. 2
State of Grace. Posted March 27 Posted March 27 That also reminds me, I hope she goes back to using characters as vehicles for storytelling with TS12/TS13. Watching her unload her feelings and experiences into different scenarios and characters is fun and it also gives her personal life a bit more privacy. Obviously not gonna happen with this one since it's our first break up album since Red. 1
Tusk Posted March 27 Posted March 27 49 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Obviously not gonna happen with this one since it's our first break up album since Red. And Red is a breakup album about a 3 month relationship Imagine a 6 years one. 5
QueenSerenity Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, State of Grace. said: That also reminds me, I hope she goes back to using characters as vehicles for storytelling with TS12/TS13. Watching her unload her feelings and experiences into different scenarios and characters is fun and it also gives her personal life a bit more privacy. Obviously not gonna happen with this one since it's our first break up album since Red. I think Taylor just wants to say the truth before rep TV is released. She uplifted Joe so much through her storytelling that that nothing-man has widows. 2 1
State of Grace. Posted March 27 Posted March 27 12 minutes ago, Tusk said: And Red is a breakup album about a 3 month relationship Imagine a 6 years one. And that's exactly why I need her to put all of her talentussy into it. If she was able to craft ATW about a 3 months relationship then Joe widows better hide 2
Klein Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 minute ago, LiamVillain said: 23 days left and we still have nothing to discuss We do have the tracklist. Though is there still a theory unsaid about any of the song?
Don Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Klein said: What about the writing in Speak Now/Red and folklore/evermore is very different? I honestly find the type of writing on these two duos to be very different. SN/Red were a lot more about "instant" feelings. Like a raw reaction, when you are still fully in it. It is very reactive. While in folkmore the writting is much more "distant". It is written in hindsight. It's clear she did not just pour an emotion she felt into a song without taking a long time to truly understand everything it could mean. Reveal hidden contents At least it makes sense in my head, but I'm at work and I can't really articulate what I mean isnt this just what she said at the folklore long pond studio
Klein Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 minute ago, Don said: isnt this just what she said at the folklore long pond studio From my perspective, what she said in the lpss is that she needed to go away from her strictly autobiographical writing. But for me the difference in writing in folklore is Red is more than just fictive vs autobiographical. The writing in Red is more "in the moment" while the writing on folklore is more "in hindsight". If it's not clear, then I'd say I imagine her writing Red when the wound is still open and she's still bleeding. In folklore, the wound is still here but closed and healing is in process.
MidnightsAtPeace Posted March 27 Posted March 27 she'll start moving on april 1st, I can feel it in my bones
Mandalore Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 minute ago, MidnightsAtPeace said: she'll start moving on april 1st, I can feel it in my bones iHeart awards are on that day. She might go? She likes to show up for them even when she really hadn't had to in years.
Klein Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Just now, Mandalore said: iHeart awards are on that day. She might go? She likes to show up for them even when she really hadn't had to in years. I don't think she'll be there. They are honoring Beyoncé (and her attendance is confirmed I think ?) and apart from the Grammy, I don't recall the last time they were together at the same ceremony.
enchanted0 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 She should change the Red's stylization to RED on streaming services one week before the TTPD release. Imagine the collpase.. my mind
MidnightsAtPeace Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, Mandalore said: iHeart awards are on that day. She might go? She likes to show up for them even when she really hadn't had to in years. the stars are aligning. it's also april fool's day so I can see her doing something totally unhinged
Mandalore Posted March 27 Posted March 27 41 minutes ago, Tusk said: And Red is a breakup album about a 3 month relationship Imagine a 6 years one. I don't know why people keep repeating the 3 months relationship line? I mean unless she spoke about the timeline it's all media speculation. It also seemed on & off? She implies in ATW10MV that he reached out and wanted another go after 3 months of "breaking up". It's the same with her relationship with Styles, people assumed it was a short fling but from the vault tracks and even "Style" back then, it started and ended long before anyone suspected. 3
every1blinks Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I don't think "thesaurus" is necessarily a drag — I see it as saying the folkmore writing seems more sophisticated, which it does. Giving v much Victorian woman as she intended
MidnightsAtPeace Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 minute ago, Klein said: I don't think she'll be there. They are honoring Beyoncé (and her attendance is confirmed I think ?) and apart from the Grammy, I don't recall the last time they were together at the same ceremony. it's mostly because beyoncé is so over these award shows and doesn't give a flying **** about anything other than the grammys, meanwhile taylor goes to award shows to have fun and win all of her nominations
Mandalore Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 minute ago, Klein said: I don't think she'll be there. They are honoring Beyoncé (and her attendance is confirmed I think ?) and apart from the Grammy, I don't recall the last time they were together at the same ceremony. Taylor was honored with that award last year and I can see them try to create a moment and have her introduce Beyoncé. (Something she'd be down to do imo) She's also thankful for iHeart vowing to rotate her old versions out of their stations as soon as the new ones come out. I'm not saying she's definitely going but I wouldn't be surprised if she showed up. 2
Sweeftie13 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 14 minutes ago, Mandalore said: Taylor was honored with that award last year and I can see them try to create a moment and have her introduce Beyoncé. (Something she'd be down to do imo) She's also thankful for iHeart vowing to rotate her old versions out of their stations as soon as the new ones come out. I'm not saying she's definitely going but I wouldn't be surprised if she showed up. well excluding Gaga which has already been done (Golden Globe 2019), Adele and Rihanna for OBVIOUS reasons (), Beyoncé is the only music celebrity worthy of being introduced by Taylor Swift, so it wouldn't surprise me if the Music Industry itself introduces a music legend 2
cruelcooper Posted March 27 Posted March 27 The way I haven't seen anyone demand that Sweeter Than Fiction TV be put on streaming she's truly forgotten 4
HappierJealousy Posted March 27 Posted March 27 3 hours ago, cruelcooper said: Someone needs to free her from Travis's sex dungeon and remind her about the ALBUM she has coming out soon Free her? I would like to replace her 5
PoisonedIvy Posted March 27 Posted March 27 The emotional devastation this woman is capable of wreaking upon my heart.. I want to feel sadness and sorrow and anger and rage that I haven't felt since I was 16 Pierce my soul and shatter my spirit, Miss Swift Fresh Out the Slammer becoming one of my most anticipated tracks. It seems like the ONE that's gonna really look inside her mind and share her thoughts, both good and bad, after things ended 4
MidnightsAtPeace Posted March 27 Posted March 27 My most anticipated tracks: Florida!!! So Long, London I Can Do It With a Broken Heart Clara Bow My least anticipated tracks: The Tortured Poets Department I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) Guilty As Sin? The Manuscript
Klein Posted March 27 Posted March 27 My most anticipated tracks: Who's Afraid Of Little Old Me So Long, London But Daddy I Love Him I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) My least anticipated tracks: Florida!!! The Manuscript The Bolter The Alchemy 1
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