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1 hour ago, Dear Reader said:
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The idea I had was to rank her tracks 1-20 and predict where TTPD would land. And do it one per day. So start tomorrow with Track 1, and then 2, etc. I don’t even know if people would find this fun anyway :deadbanana4:

 

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We did this around Middy’s release and it was a fun way to try and distract the usuals that lack patience and keep on melting down daily :dies:

 

36 minutes ago, Maroon legacy said:

I actually think that TTPD is the best possible era to make the ballad a lead single, it would become instant classic and actually could bring her SOTY. But since she's not making a pre-release single, I think that the lead will be whatever pop smash she has on that album. She still can make a ballad a 2nd or a 3rd single and it still would be great, but it will kinda lose it's significance. 

But imagine if the lead single is So Long, London :jonny5:

I hope that it will serve a reverse CBBH when it comes to the sentiment, but continue this decade’s incredible streak of track 5s
 

21 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said:

Why do I have a feeling that I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) will be one of the few upbeat (but melancholy) pop song with sad lyrics about trying to fix someone with depression. I can see it being something kinda like DWOHT, not that I expect or want it to sound exactly like that, but just the way it’s an upbeat song with sad lyrics and very melancholy-sounding production

 

I kinda want it 

 

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I’d die for a Forever Winter 2.0 :smitten:

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48 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said:

I will never understand the hate for her self-directed videos. Even if you dislike the Midnights videos, Cardigan and Willow are absolutely perfect. & don’t get me started on how ya’ll would be gagging over Karma if it had Kahn’s name slapped on it instead of hers.

 

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Now, if the hate is for Lavender Haze... okay

 

I hope none of the TTPD videos are that… interesting 

 

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Yeah the Karma video was a nice progression in her directorial skills, for instance it showed that she's learned that cameras can move in three dimensions alongside what they're filming to change perspective and to make for transitions

 

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OT: I really like all of the album covers of the variants!

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10 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

Yeah the Karma video was a nice progression in her directorial skills, for instance it showed that she's learned that cameras can move in three dimensions alongside what they're filming to change perspective and to make for transitions

 

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OT: I really like all of the album covers of the variants!

ICSY was also a nice improvement in her directional skills imo, the cinematography was very nice and it showed she realized she can film a video outside of standard 16:9 camera ratio. I get some people find it boring, and that’s fine, but just speaking… as objectively as you can get with entertainment, it was nicely done from a technical aspect.
 

Speaking of the variants, I hope they do something like Eternal Sunshine where the animated cover on Apple Music shows all the variants :ryan3: 

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Karma MV felt like She wanted to copy Doja and SZA's Kiss Me More MV, but failed miserably.

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1 hour ago, Holiest Dreams said:

I will never understand the hate for her self-directed videos. Even if you dislike the Midnights videos, Cardigan and Willow are absolutely perfect. & don’t get me started on how ya’ll would be gagging over Karma if it had Kahn’s name slapped on it instead of hers.

 

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Now, if the hate is for Lavender Haze... okay

 

I hope none of the TTPD videos are that… interesting 

 

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the whole fanbase started hating on Kahn during the reputa era tho, I think that's why she got rid of him

when people were sharing clips of any transformers movie saying the delicate video had leaked :rip:

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on a side note what I hate about the midnights videos is that she tries to be funny

that's why i hated the delicate video too

hope she's serious with TTPD videos since she also was with willow and cardigan

 

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I've always felt like her direction has been fine for videos, it's her story-boarding/writing for the videos that has gone downhill.

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Her videos are quite nothing without Kahn I fear…

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joseph kahn was around for 2 eras and people act like she’s nothing without him :rip:

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5 minutes ago, Burqa said:

the whole fanbase started hating on Kahn during the reputa era tho, I think that's why she got rid of him

when people were sharing clips of any transformers movie saying the delicate video had leaked :rip:

You’re not wrong at all, but I think that makes it weirder that Swifties suddenly want him back (not talking about you obv but just in general I see this too much :rip:

 

I fear Swifties always do this, they want her to work with someone else and then when she does they want that other collaborator back. Swifties also wanted her to ditch Max after Rep and now they want him back :suburban: mental illness 

 

5 minutes ago, Burqa said:

on a side note what I hate about the midnights videos is that she tries to be funny

that's why i hated the delicate video too

hope she's serious with TTPD videos since she also was with willow and cardigan

 

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Agreed with this. The skits were unneeded and drag down the replay value immensely. I just want good videos, without skits and dialogue, that are serious and well-thought-out.

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5 minutes ago, Ithinkforme13 said:

I've always felt like her direction has been fine for videos, it's her story-boarding/writing for the videos that has gone downhill.

Anti hero, cardigan and willow were find to good.

 

It’s when she focuses on Easter eggs that the story boarding sucks. 
 

But also music videos are almost dead. We won’t get the big budget Kahn mvs back even if she stops directing. 

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1 minute ago, Holiest Dreams said:

 

 

Agreed with this. The skits were unneeded and drag down the replay value immensely. I just want good videos, without skits and dialogue, that are serious and well-thought-out.

I liked the anti hero sketch but yeah it hurts the replay value. But since most fans are only going to watch the mv a few times anyway I don’t think that matters to Taylor.

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Also, with all of this said, no matter how good her direction skills become, I don’t think we are ever getting another LWYMMD or whatever. That was a once-in-a-career type of video, and there’s just no sense in investing that much into videos anymore when they’re irrelevant. 
 

I do hope she’ll eventually do a full visual film for an album though, and I’m sure that will be very high budget. Not happening with TTPD I’m sure but maybe later this decade.

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The plot twist when the single is The Alchemy or something on the lower side of the tracklist :mandown: I’m still hoping it’s Fresh Out the Slammer, it just sounds iconique :penguin:

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4 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said:

Also, with all of this said, no matter how good her direction skills become, I don’t think we are ever getting another LWYMMD or whatever. That was a once-in-a-career type of video, and there’s just no sense in investing that much into videos anymore when they’re irrelevant. 
 

I do hope she’ll eventually do a full visual film for an album though, and I’m sure that will be very high budget. Not happening with TTPD I’m sure but maybe later this decade.

What I hate about how big she's gotten is that she has this kind of mentality for everything. She's realized she doesn't have to do any of it and still will find success. It's not always about money, I wish she had the same hunger she had back in the day (specially during the 1989 era) just for the sake of artistry. A good expensive music video would be enough proof that she still cares. Makes me think it's the same reason why she got Christopher Rowe (who is objectively inferior to Max when it comes to vocal production) for all of the TVs and why the packaging and overall design for 1989 TV looks so cheap and tacky. But she seems to try a bit harder for the new studio albums so I suppose I'll be satisfied with the era.

 

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Am I the only person that genuinely loved most of the Midnights self directed mvs? Npmgsop.gif

Like I know they have some amateurish vibes but I love their magical feeling to them. Like Anti-Hero's mv is so cute and feels warm and then LH, Karma and Bejeweled's mvs feel magical and whimsical (though LHs mv has too many unprofessionally shot / edited moments so it throws me off too much). But yeah...overall they were solid efforts imo. Obviously nothing like her Joseph Kahn mvs but still good in a homemade type of way Npmgsop.gif

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Random but I wonder if Taylor would ever consider writing with Liz Rose again. They created so many beautiful songs and melodies together 

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20 minutes ago, HRHCOLLECTION said:

Her videos are quite nothing without Kahn I fear…

I actually like cardigan and willow music videos...However midnights mvs are meh

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What if this era is Renaissance? Drop the album and disappear - no videos, no interviews, no performances, no fan interaction

 

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What i really need from ttpd to have MELODIES:jonny:

Like i need her to sing sing

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3 minutes ago, =NEX= said:

What if this era is Renaissance? Drop the album and disappear - no videos, no interviews, no performances, no fan interaction

 

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We are the everything

 

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5 minutes ago, wehavetostan said:

Random but I wonder if Taylor would ever consider writing with Liz Rose again. They created so many beautiful songs and melodies together 

her best co-writer

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2 minutes ago, =NEX= said:

What if this era is Renaissance? Drop the album and disappear - no videos, no interviews, no performances, no fan interaction

 

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With how "Swifties" on reddit and twitter throw her under the bus for literally every other artist these days I wouldn't even blame her :kitty:

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pretty sure i ordered the Black Dog Edition, but it didnt show up in my Shop tracking app like the Albatross and Bolter editions did :gaycat7:

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4 minutes ago, Burqa said:

What I hate about how big she's gotten is that she has this kind of mentality for everything. She's realized she doesn't have to do any of it and still will find success. It's not always about money, I wish she had the same hunger she had back in the day (specially during the 1989 era) just for the sake of artistry. A good expensive music video would be enough proof that she still cares. Makes me think it's the same reason why she got Christopher Rowe (who is objectively inferior to Max when it comes to vocal production) for all of the TVs and why the packaging and overall design for 1989 TV looks so cheap and tacky. But she seems to try a bit harder for the new studio albums so I suppose I'll be satisfied with the era.

 

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I kind of agree but kind of disagree. On the one hand, she did give us four music videos for Midnights, three of which I’d argue are very good (not her best but still very good) Not many pop artists are doing that many music videos and the ones that are don’t have videos with even half the budget. A lot of pop videos barely have concepts too which makes the Midnight’s videos even better by comparison. 
 

With regard to the TV packaging, I can’t speak to the CDs but the Fearless, SN, and 1989 vinyl are all beautiful with some amazing pictures/booklets (better than Midnight’s honestly). The back of SNTV is actually one of my favorites from her.


Also, and I know I might in the minority here, but Chris’ production is right on/better on most of the tracks for me. I have no desire to revisit the stolen versions tbh, even on the few tracks I recognize are ‘inferior.’ 
 

Now, when it comes to live performances, press tours, interviews, etc. that’s what I personally miss. I get why she wouldn’t prioritize them anymore (she really has no need for them) but not having a single televised performance of any of Midnights’ singles (namely Anti-Hero) is criminal! 


Anyway, very much excited to see how Poet’s turns out. I already know I’m going to love the album, but Taylor always finds a way to make a release feel special and unique. One of my absolute favorite things about stanning her. 

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