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1 minute ago, wowsignal14 said:

if you want to know which songs of hers by which producer are actually most popular go check the Spotify streams where for every max martin or nathan chapman produced song has great streams there's 5 jack Antonoff songs with even better streams

well obviously, they are newer

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1 minute ago, wowsignal14 said:

the sample being atrl swifties PLEASE.... who taught you research methodology because how is that tiny biased sample representative of her actual fandom 

 

if you want to know which songs of hers by which producer are actually most popular go check the Spotify streams where for every max martin or nathan chapman produced song has great streams there's 5 jack Antonoff songs with even better streams

Well what a surprise that Jack produced songs that were released in 2019-2022 have more streams than Nathan Chapman songs from 2008-2012 that have been rerecorded since AND werent even on spotify for multiple years 
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25 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

Taylor attended the Max Martin school of pop smashery for a few years, took away the knowledge he could impart upon her, and quickly applied that newfound knowledge to her mega-successful pop records Lover and Midnights.

 

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I know some of y'all yearn for Max because you weren't fans when they were working together last and you want to experience some of that magic, but there was absolutely the same sentiment of tiredness for his work with Taylor by the time reputation came out. 

 

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to YOU! everyone loved rep when it came out, and it’s very different from 1989. can’t say the same about Loser and MID tho

 

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Just now, TaylenaStan said:

Well what a surprise that Jack produced songs that were released in 2019-2022 have more streams than Nathan Chapman songs from 2008-2012 that have been rerecorded since AND werent even on spotify for multiple years 
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talking about daily streams babes...

 

 

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now don't get it twisted I'm all for taylor to drop jack going forward simply because i want her to expirrement with new sounds and explore fascets of her artistry that she hasn't tapped into yet and the jack produced songs are becoming a bit of a stagnant new norm but to imply that she hasn't made some of her best songs AND some of her biggest hits and viral tracks with him is simply delusional and based on nothing but vibes. 

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My prediction for TTPD: First week sales :

 

1.650.000 physical copies + 450.000 streaming unites and iTunes Sales 

 

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I wonder what Alchemy is about?

 

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Lavender Haze - amazing, atmospheric and catchy intro to the album. It's the most substancial song on the album, a whole ass bop.

'talk your talk and go viral, I just need this love spiral'

 

Maroon - let me keep it cute.

 

Anti-Hero - another smash classic. She finally admits to being a problem sometimes. And the bridge is fantastic

 

Snow On the Beach - I listened once and I forgot what was this even about.

 

YOYOK - YOU ON YOUR OWN KID, ALWAYS HAS BEEN... OURSONGISTHESLAMMINGSCREENDOOR

 

Midnight Rain - another very atmospheric song. It's really cool. Kinda feels like negative Lavender Haze if that makes sense.

 

Question...? - No thanks XD

 

Vigilante **** - I don't care, it's a BOP

 

Bejelewd - my friend likes it.

 

I forgot the rest.

 

 

 

 

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So we have 20 songs so far:

 

Imagine:

- 5 Jack

- 4 Aaron

- 3 Max/ co

- 3 Frank/ Louis

- 3 Catharine Marks

- 2 Jeff Bhasker

 

6 from the vault tracks :eli: on the 3 am edition

- 2 Jack

-2 Aaron

- 2 Catharine 

 

ahh we would be eating 

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Max Martin is a producer is okay when you are 20 years old please. It's okay to like his songs when you are 20 or when you are 40 and you want a throwback party but asking for your 35 years old or 40 years old artist to work with max Martin it's kinda cringe :sorry:

 

All the max Martin material just created a decade of confusion on her artistry around the world cause everyone was ok why this girl is differente? We already have Katy Perry for that kind of pop and she's way more colourful, seductive and great at selling this kind of pop ( i mean look Katy TG videos and Red Music videos). Yes 1989 Is a great swedish pop album but a popstar It's not only the record, everyone didn't know her before 1989 and Red pop songs just saw her as this goofy girl trying too hard to compete with Katy and Rihanna and these popstars Better at selling the "pop machine girl" image.

 

Thanks to folklore and jack antonoff pop music they started to see her as a songwriter with a unique trait upon the big mainstream artist. Not another swedish pop girl :celestial5:.

Max Martin made her name more global but antonoff and dessner made her name respected globally. This is the difference. 

 

 

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I would say midnights is closer to rep than lover…

lavender haze

maroon

anti hero

midnight rain

vigilante **** 

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all would’ve fit better on rep than lover if they had to be .. although I definitely think it has its own distinct sound as an album

 

While bejeweled, sweet nothing, and maybe Paris could’ve been on lover?

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14 minutes ago, stupidjock said:

that means 15 songs are being mostly carried by the lyrics and her delivery and sometimes there might be ghost co-producers 

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3 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said:

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nnnnn this pic

 

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@Dear Reader my good sister you know what to do

 

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47 minutes ago, 19SLAYty9 said:

I wonder what Frank and Louis will have done on this album now that she’s the biggest artist ever. I’m hopeful they gave her much better material than lover.

i’m sorry but the slander needs to stop. the only bad song they gave her was IFTYE and you can tell it was taylor’s fault when you listen to the voice memo :rip: they’re two of my favorite pop producers 

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ANYWAY, i can't wait to do this again. This was done with the leaked album. I wonder what would be the positions now.

 

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I better not see anyone wanting max to be involved in this album :khalyan2:

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4 minutes ago, MidnightsAtPeace said:

I better not see anyone wanting max to be involved in this album :khalyan2:

They need to let him go. She didn’t even call him to produce the 1989 TV tracks. If that isn’t the clearest sign..  :snowman:

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Taylor please do something, this thread is in the trenches

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1 hour ago, Magickarp said:

So i decided to do some counting and

Max: 24 songs

Aaron: 43 songs

Jack: 64 songs

Nathan: 66 songs

 

Songs that made it into the T20 of ATRL's 2023 TS Discog Rate

Max: 4 songs, 17% of their discog

Aaron: 5 songs, 12% of their discog

Jack: 1 song(s), 2% of their discog

Nathan: 9 songs, 14% of their discog

Clean, by Imogen is the 1 missing song, 100% success rate queen, but she worked with a sexist.

 

U can bring up "But what about X song", but i have MATHEMATICALLY proven, with YOUR OWN VOTES, by over 70 Swifties, most of which are Hack stans, that Hack is her worst producer, & it's not even close. 

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With TTPD, Jack will surpass Nathan as her most used producer, but will he finally put out the same percentage of hits vs the number of tries he gets?:ryan3:

Keep the lashings coming bestie. Show them that MAX MARTIN will always be the IT producer

 

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21 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

nnnnn this pic

 

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@Dear Reader my good sister you know what to do

 

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16 minutes ago, Burqa said:

i’m sorry but the slander needs to stop. the only bad song they gave her was IFTYE and you can tell it was taylor’s fault when you listen to the voice memo :rip: they’re two of my favorite pop producers 

Something about her vocal production on afterglow is off. What songs by them do you really like?

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I just realized the last 40 pages of this thread are filled with deluded thoughts and dumb theories.

taylor needs to do something asap I can't do this anymore :suburban:

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1 hour ago, Magickarp said:

My dream album would be 30% Max + 70% Aaron

Max and Aaron are working in different genres, what the f*** y'all even want from her? A mixtape?
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7 minutes ago, 19SLAYty9 said:

Something about her vocal production on afterglow is off. What songs by them do you really like?

i think it’s meant to sound like an empty arena on purpose to give the atmospheric feeling

 

Frank Dukes produced

Rosalía - Diablo

The Weeknd - Call Out My Name

Camila Cabello - Never Be the Same (with Louis)

Julia Michaels - Into You (with Louis)

Post Malone - A Thousand Bad Times

 

he also co-produced like half of Melodrama with Jack 

 

Louis Bell produced

like half of Plastic Hearts by Miley including Gimme What I Want 

Halsey - Without Me

Lana Del Rey - **** It I Love You (he turned it into a pop song)

Julia Michaels - Body

Rita Ora - Hell of a Life

5 Seconds of Summer - Youngblood

 

 

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14 minutes ago, MidnightsAtPeace said:

I just realized the last 339 pages of this thread are filled with deluded thoughts and dumb theories.

taylor needs to do something asap I can't do this anymore :suburban:

I fixed it for you

 

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1 hour ago, 19SLAYty9 said:

I hope she did work with Catharine Marks. Her work with boygenius was great. Her following Taylor/ taylornation/ Joe and then unfollowing Joe after the breakup is suspicious as well. 

Now wait if this sounds anything like The Record :jonny:

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