Dear Reader Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Just now, =NEX= said: I think Taylor would only ever drop Hack if there is a narrative in the media that he's the main creative mind behind their work or he's responsible for her recent mega rise etc etc. don’t let the Swiftologist see this post 4
Magickarp Posted March 12 Posted March 12 So i decided to do some counting and Max: 24 songs Aaron: 43 songs Jack: 64 songs Nathan: 66 songs Songs that made it into the T20 of ATRL's 2023 TS Discog Rate Max: 4 songs, 17% of their discog Aaron: 5 songs, 12% of their discog Jack: 1 song(s), 2% of their discog Nathan: 9 songs, 14% of their discog Clean, by Imogen is the 1 missing song, 100% success rate queen, but she worked with a sexist. U can bring up "But what about X song", but i have MATHEMATICALLY proven, with YOUR OWN VOTES, by over 70 Swifties, most of which are Hack stans, that Hack is her worst producer, & it's not even close. Source: Max's songs Spoiler Aaron's songs Spoiler Jack's songs Spoiler Nathan's songs Spoiler With TTPD, Jack will surpass Nathan as her most used producer, but will he finally put out the same percentage of hits vs the number of tries he gets? 3 1 1
Dear Reader Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Magickarp said: So i decided to do some counting and Max: 24 songs Aaron: 43 songs Jack: 64 songs Nathan: 66 songs Songs that made it into the T20 of ATRL's 2023 TS Discog Rate Max: 4 songs, 17% of their discog Aaron: 5 songs, 12% of their discog Jack: 1 song(s), 2% of their discog Nathan: 9 songs, 14% of their discog Clean, by Imogen is the 1 missing song, 100% success rate queen, but she worked with a sexist. U can bring up "But what about X song", but i have MATHEMATICALLY proven, with YOUR OWN VOTES, by over 70 Swifties, most of which are Hack stans, that Hack is her worst producer, & it's not even close. Source: Max's songs Reveal hidden contents Aaron's songs Reveal hidden contents Jack's songs Reveal hidden contents Nathan's songs Reveal hidden contents With TTPD, Jack will surpass Nathan as her most used producer, but will he finally put out the same percentage of hits vs the number of tries he gets? you know what, I admire your hard work. I’ll let it pass but only this time 1
wastedpotential Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Taylor attended the Max Martin school of pop smashery for a few years, took away the knowledge he could impart upon her, and quickly applied that newfound knowledge to her mega-successful pop records Lover and Midnights. I know some of y'all yearn for Max because you weren't fans when they were working together last and you want to experience some of that magic, but there was absolutely the same sentiment of tiredness for his work with Taylor by the time reputation came out. 7 1
Kern Posted March 12 Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Magickarp said: So i decided to do some counting and Max: 24 songs Aaron: 43 songs Jack: 64 songs Nathan: 66 songs Songs that made it into the T20 of ATRL's 2023 TS Discog Rate Max: 4 songs, 17% of their discog Aaron: 5 songs, 12% of their discog Jack: 1 song(s), 2% of their discog Nathan: 9 songs, 14% of their discog Clean, by Imogen is the 1 missing song, 100% success rate queen, but she worked with a sexist. U can bring up "But what about X song", but i have MATHEMATICALLY proven, with YOUR OWN VOTES, by over 70 Swifties, most of which are Hack stans, that Hack is her worst producer, & it's not even close. Source: Max's songs Reveal hidden contents Aaron's songs Reveal hidden contents Jack's songs Reveal hidden contents Nathan's songs Reveal hidden contents With TTPD, Jack will surpass Nathan as her most used producer, but will he finally put out the same percentage of hits vs the number of tries he gets? Send this tea to Taylor, not to us. She needs to finally see that Mr. GLASSES is not the tea! 1
Magickarp Posted March 12 Posted March 12 8 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said: It’s fine if you like Max and all, but I’m just…confused at what point you’re trying to make here when 100% Jack-produced Midnights is much more successful and critically acclaimed (also an awards darling) than the project you’re referring to… Calling that project acclaimed is questionable looking at the score it has, although it’s being received fine enough I guess. So, you’re saying she should go back to Max based on the reception of an album he produced that’s far below that of Jack’s Midnights, and even below that of Jack’s Lover? Make it make sense. And TTPD (which will have 50% Jack at least) will be no different Oh no point, i don't even listen to Ariana Just my daily Hack complaining cuz he's going to torture me in 5 weeks 3
Dear Reader Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Just now, stupidjock said: Send this tea to Taylor, not to us. She needs to finally see that Mr. GLASSES is not the tea! not Mr Glasses, i really hate y’all
19SLAYty9 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Ariana’s album shows that max can still produce hits. I would be fine if they reunited. But no more than 4 songs on an album.
Holiest Dreams Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Magickarp said: Oh no point, i don't even listen to Ariana Just my daily Hack complaining cuz he's going to torture me in 5 weeks You know what I respect the honesty
Maroon legacy Posted March 12 Posted March 12 You can cry all you want, Jack is not going anywhere 1 1
Kern Posted March 12 Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Magickarp said: Just my daily Hack complaining cuz he's going to torture me in 5 weeks History has proven that Glasses works well with other producers - Reputation, Folklore, Lavender Haze/Karma etc. So if the album is eclectic like Red we have nothing to worry about
19SLAYty9 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 I wonder what Frank and Louis will have done on this album now that she’s the biggest artist ever. I’m hopeful they gave her much better material than lover.
Maroon legacy Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Oh the meltdown when TTPD producers list drop is yet to come 1
19SLAYty9 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 I hope she did work with Catharine Marks. Her work with boygenius was great. Her following Taylor/ taylornation/ Joe and then unfollowing Joe after the breakup is suspicious as well.
TaylenaStan Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) I also feel like a lot of Jack stans misunderstand us Hack ''haters'' He HAS produced amazing songs for her and there will probably be something amazing on TTPD produced by him but still we just wish she'd try working with completely new producers. Yes there is a certain risk that it might not sound as good (for example her work with Joel Little.. although lets be honest ME!th is mostly her fault and he was just a Yes Man in that situation) but there's also the chance that she'd drop her magnum opus if she works with a completely new set of people Literally every single singer - producer combination gets tired after a while imo Edited March 12 by TaylenaStan 3
wastedpotential Posted March 12 Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, 19SLAYty9 said: I wonder what Frank and Louis will have done on this album now that she’s the biggest artist ever. I’m hopeful they gave her much better material than lover. I will continue to pray that they're only here for doing vocals for Post Malone, but if they're actually on several songs then I never said this and I love them and was always anticipating their work
Magickarp Posted March 12 Posted March 12 My dream album would be 30% Max + 70% Aaron, basically Red 2.0 but in her mid 30s instead. I would love Jeff Bhasker to return too, & her to also work with Justin Meldal-Johnsen who did a lot of Paramore's works. Usually i'd also want Nathan back, just for his arena rock esque atmostpheric productions, but Aaron can mostly do the same thing. Although i'd argue Nathan is better with making the guitars sound more atmostpheric. Maybe she should also workj with Dan Auerbach. 2
Kern Posted March 12 Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Maroon legacy said: Oh the meltdown when TTPD producers list drop is yet to come If the list drops and it's just Glasses on all songs.....
Holiest Dreams Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) Okay but I’m kinda reeling at ATRL’s sample size of like 100 Swiftie ballots being used as any indication of how much Jack’s productions are liked by fans, not even taking the GP into account. Are we supposed to trust that, or the following facts: • He’s produced three of her biggest hits of all time: IDWLF, Anti-Hero and Cruel Summer (TTPD lead single incoming too) & several other medium-sized hits which popped off on radio (Karma, Lavender Haze, Is It Over Now?) • 90% of her viral and beloved album tracks are his productions: August, My Tears Ricochet, Illicit Affairs, Getaway Car, Paper Rings, All Too Well 10MV, Midnight Rain, You’re On Your Own, Kid, etc. & I’m not even mentioning all her semi-viral album tracks done by him which are loved (CIWYW, Dress, Daylight, Mr Perfectly Fine…) • Literally everything they release together turns to smash and is also acclaimed Facts over feelings! #Jack(andAaron)4TTPD Edited March 12 by Holiest Dreams 2
WeFoundWill Posted March 12 Posted March 12 18 minutes ago, Magickarp said: So i decided to do some counting and Max: 24 songs Aaron: 43 songs Jack: 64 songs Nathan: 66 songs Songs that made it into the T20 of ATRL's 2023 TS Discog Rate Max: 4 songs, 17% of their discog Aaron: 5 songs, 12% of their discog Jack: 1 song(s), 2% of their discog Nathan: 9 songs, 14% of their discog Clean, by Imogen is the 1 missing song, 100% success rate queen, but she worked with a sexist. U can bring up "But what about X song", but i have MATHEMATICALLY proven, with YOUR OWN VOTES, by over 70 Swifties, most of which are Hack stans, that Hack is her worst producer, & it's not even close. Source: Max's songs Reveal hidden contents Aaron's songs Reveal hidden contents Jack's songs Reveal hidden contents Nathan's songs Reveal hidden contents With TTPD, Jack will surpass Nathan as her most used producer, but will he finally put out the same percentage of hits vs the number of tries he gets? CLOCKED
wastedpotential Posted March 12 Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said: Okay but I’m kinda reeling at ATRL’s sample size of like 100 Swiftie ballots being used as any indication of how much Jack’s productions are liked by fans, not even taking the GP into account. Are we supposed to trust that, or the following facts: • He’s produced three of her biggest hits of all time: IDWLF, Anti-Hero and Cruel Summer (TTPD lead single incoming too) & several other medium-sized hits which popped off on radio (Karma, Lavender Haze, Is It Over Now?) • 90% of her viral and beloved album tracks are his productions: August, My Tears Ricochet, Illicit Affairs, Getaway Car, Paper Rings, All Too Well 10MV, Midnight Rain, You’re On Your Own, Kid, etc. & I’m not even mentioning all her semi-viral album tracks done by him which are loved (CIWYW, Dress, Daylight, Mr Perfectly Fine…) • Literally everything they release together turns to smash and is also acclaimed Facts over feelings! #Jack(andAaron)4TTPD I'm out of reactions again but end them for me 1
Kern Posted March 12 Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said: Okay but I’m kinda reeling at ATRL’s sample size of like 100 Swiftie ballots being used as any indication of how much Jack’s productions are liked by fans, not even taking the GP into account. Are we supposed to trust that, or the following facts: • He’s produced three of her biggest hits of all time: IDWLF, Anti-Hero and Cruel Summer (TTPD lead single incoming too) & several other medium-sized hits which popped off on radio (Karma, Lavender Haze, Is It Over Now?) • 90% of her viral and beloved album tracks are his productions: August, My Tears Ricochet, Illicit Affairs, Getaway Car, Paper Rings, All Too Well 10MV, Midnight Rain, You’re On Your Own, Kid, etc. & I’m not even mentioning all her semi-viral album tracks done by him which are loved (CIWYW, Dress, Daylight, Mr Perfectly Fine…) • Literally everything they release together turns to smash and is also acclaimed Facts over feelings! #Jack(andAaron)4TTPD Great! Now list these songs again but filter out the ones that weren't co-produced with other people
Holiest Dreams Posted March 12 Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, stupidjock said: Great! Now list these songs again but filter out the ones that weren't co-produced with other people Sure! A whopping 3/18 of the fan favorite Jack Antonoff-produced songs I mentioned have other co-producers
wowsignal14 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 24 minutes ago, Magickarp said: So i decided to do some counting and Max: 24 songs Aaron: 43 songs Jack: 64 songs Nathan: 66 songs Songs that made it into the T20 of ATRL's 2023 TS Discog Rate Max: 4 songs, 17% of their discog Aaron: 5 songs, 12% of their discog Jack: 1 song(s), 2% of their discog Nathan: 9 songs, 14% of their discog Clean, by Imogen is the 1 missing song, 100% success rate queen, but she worked with a sexist. U can bring up "But what about X song", but i have MATHEMATICALLY proven, with YOUR OWN VOTES, by over 70 Swifties, most of which are Hack stans, that Hack is her worst producer, & it's not even close. Source: Max's songs Reveal hidden contents Aaron's songs Reveal hidden contents Jack's songs Reveal hidden contents Nathan's songs Reveal hidden contents With TTPD, Jack will surpass Nathan as her most used producer, but will he finally put out the same percentage of hits vs the number of tries he gets? the sample being atrl swifties PLEASE.... who taught you research methodology because how is that tiny biased sample representative of her actual fandom if you want to know which songs of hers by which producer are actually most popular go check the Spotify streams where for every max martin or nathan chapman produced song has great streams there's 5 jack Antonoff songs with even better streams
Kern Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Holiest Dreams said: Sure! A whopping 3/18 of the fan favorite Jack Antonoff-produced songs I mentioned have other co-producers that means 15 songs are being mostly carried by the lyrics and her delivery and sometimes there might be ghost co-producers 1
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