wastedpotential Posted March 5 Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, cat1867 said: Sometimes lead singles build hype. Texas hold'em seems like its building hype for renaissance II. But Taylor is probably the only artist in the industry right now who doesn't need hype to be built Beyonce and her team are probably hoping that the success of THE will push Act II up over 350k sales, while we're all in here watching some users run around screaming that a debut week under 2M is a catastrophe and a bad omen for the future of Taylor's career If Taylor's career was in a different place and we were worried about building public awareness and hype, then a lead would probably be the right play, but she's not lacking for public awareness or hype. If the lead does come and a negative narrative forms (for instance, ME! was only considered a "bad song" by people who weren't pre-disposed to think that [OTH and stans of other artists] after Swifties decided it was a bad song because it didn't go #1, or what's happening with Ariana and Yes, And?), it would put TTPD in a much more precarious position that it would've been in without the lead in the first place. 7
cat1867 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Just now, Arrows said: We’ll have to wait and see what Texas will do for the album. I fear it could be another GP-driven Flowers situation - I don’t know if her core base would really dig a country album? Oh yeah I am not talking about the longetivity of the album , who knows about that. But the single release at the Superbowl increased hype more than just announcing a country Beyonce album without a lead single. 1
cat1867 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 (edited) 3 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: But Taylor is probably the only artist in the industry right now who doesn't need hype to be built Beyonce and her team are probably hoping that the success of THE will push Act II up over 350k sales, while we're all in here watching some users run around screaming that a debut week under 2M is a catastrophe and a bad omen for the future of Taylor's career If Taylor's career was in a different place and we were worried about building public awareness and hype, then a lead would probably be the right play, but she's not lacking for public awareness or hype. If the lead does come and a negative narrative forms (for instance, ME! was only considered a "bad song" by people who weren't pre-disposed to think that [OTH and stans of other artists] after Swifties decided it was a bad song because it didn't go #1, or what's happening with Ariana and Yes, And?), it would put TTPD in a much more precarious position that it would've been in without the lead in the first place. At the same point, Taylor can afford to lose a little hype for the album to help make the lead single a smash by releasing it early. Even if the song isn't great, ttpd and song will still get massive streams. remember even after me! and yntcd! , lover had the second most debut streams for a female artist on spotify. hell , yes and despite being a flop still gave ariana an #1 and her presales look good. Basically, I think its overall a better strategy not to release a lead. But I think Taylor is going to announce one so I will trust her choice until proven otherwise. So let's not denigrate a lead single too hard when its seems like she is going to release /announce something on the 22nd. Edited March 5 by cat1867
scot954 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 28 minutes ago, 19SLAYty9 said: One last thing, if this album is red 2.0 in terms of themes and sonic cohesion, she could release a lead and flat out say musically the album has lots of different things as a way to keep the gp interested Where did you get this info about it being red 2.0 times in terms of cohesion? I like red but I hope not. Much prefer a cohesive album
cat1867 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, scot954 said: Where did you get this info about it being red 2.0 times in terms of cohesion? I like red but I hope not. Much prefer a cohesive album Its just a popular assumpation base on Taylor's life since midnights release. Having a hard breakup and falling in love again were what inspired red and what very likely inspired ttpd. red was taylor's last proper breakup album so swifties are drawing the parallels. 1
Sprawl Posted March 5 Posted March 5 (edited) I don’t believe anything on this album will be about Travis Kelce, it just doesn’t make sense. She highly likely finished it like 2-3 weeks after they started dating. So no, I don’t think it will be like Red in the sense that I believe this will be a full on break up album. Edited March 5 by Sprawl 3
Maroon legacy Posted March 5 Posted March 5 36 minutes ago, Dear Reader said: I wish it was a documentary, but if I had to guess, I think it will be the live album. I see the vision, but also it seems like they're hyping this 22 thing for something ttpd related
Fama Posted March 5 Posted March 5 9 minutes ago, Sprawl said: I don’t believe anything on this album will be about Travis Kelce, it just doesn’t make sense. She highly likely finished it like 2-3 weeks after they started dating. So no, I don’t think it will be like Red in the sense that I believe this will be a full on break up album. I agree, which is why I think everything she created afterwards is most likely for TS12. 1
TaylenaStan Posted March 5 Posted March 5 (edited) Taylor released 2 of her most hated bombs before Loser and it still almost debuted with 1M.. and shes like 10 times bigger now I hate the idea here that a lead would reduce hype.. even if she released ME!th 2.0 the album would easily debut with atleast 1.5M If there is a single worthy single just release it.. it extends the life span of the TTPD era Also i just wanna know what numbers a lead single would do on spotify etc The whole fandom focusing on streaming one song Edited March 5 by TaylenaStan 1
Clauss Posted March 5 Posted March 5 After being slammed for saying lead single stuff about the 22 signals All I want to say is that midnights thread got into 1k pages before the release. We are flopping
Sprawl Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Why are we still entertaining the idea of a lead single when She said herself we’ll hear all the songs April 19th 1
cat1867 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Clauss said: After being slammed for saying lead single stuff about the 22 signals All I want to say is that midnights thread got into 1k pages before the release. We are flopping Its due to the darn leakers so Taylor couldn't tease the tracklist like she did for midnights. I personally think there is a good chance of lead single since with the tracklist leaked and variants announced and tour on hiatus, she doesn't have much else she can do to keep engagement up in the fanbase. Also my hope with a lead single is that she will do stuff to promote it before album release such as interviews and performances (slim hope through)
cat1867 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Sprawl said: Why are we still entertaining the idea of a lead single when She said herself we’ll hear all the songs April 19th Because her and taylornation have been heavy with the 22 easter eggs. She held up the peace sign during the singapore shows and the taylornation had a 22 hour countdown instead of 24 hour countdown in their tweet blackdog variants. Taylor's eastereggs aren't subtle so repeated 22s is a sign for something and a lead single makes the most sense.
Burqa Posted March 5 Posted March 5 12 minutes ago, Clauss said: After being slammed for saying lead single stuff about the 22 signals All I want to say is that midnights thread got into 1k pages before the release. We are flopping the midnights thread was 95% delusion. we’re better off with a shorter thread
By the Water Posted March 5 Posted March 5 10 minutes ago, Sprawl said: Why are we still entertaining the idea of a lead single when She said herself we’ll hear all the songs April 19th The actors from the AH music video also said in a podcast that Taylor told them that releasing a single before the album isn't a thing anymore. And seeing how things went with Midnights I don't know why people think she changed her mind 1
Burqa Posted March 5 Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, cat1867 said: Because her and taylornation have been heavy with the 22 easter eggs. She held up the peace sign during the singapore shows and the taylornation had a 22 hour countdown instead of 24 hour countdown in their tweet blackdog variants. Taylor's eastereggs aren't subtle so repeated 22s is a sign for something and a lead single makes the most sense. notice how she did that sign after she said the words “TV” why would it be about a lead single
wastedpotential Posted March 5 Posted March 5 15 minutes ago, Clauss said: All I want to say is that midnights thread got into 1k pages before the release. We are flopping Well then we ought to get to work
Hunter_13 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 19 minutes ago, 1989 said: Me watching the acoustic version of ICSY on the 14th I'm right there with ya sis 1
Sprawl Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Ugh I know it won’t happen but I’d love if she gave us tea about the creative process, a dream And even if that were to happen I just know certain swifties would still find a way to complain
every1blinks Posted March 5 Posted March 5 22 could mean anything. It could be a lead single, but a lead single is also the only thing we could guess it would be 😂 I personally hope it’s something creative and different and that no music is heard until April 19. It’s so exciting that way, idc 2
1989 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 9 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: Well then we ought to get to work What’s first, rankings or Rep vs Lover
wastedpotential Posted March 5 Posted March 5 (edited) 54 minutes ago, 1989 said: What’s first, rankings or Rep vs Lover Mmmm maybe we should rank our top 5 from each and then decide which is better overall For me, it's: GrammyWin Car Gowns Preaching The Gospel With Our Hands Together Look What Prayer Gave To You End Careers ()/Delichrist (it changes daily depending on my level of shame) vs. AfterChrist Five Grammys Louvre DayLegend The Archangel GodIsInThe Car is the overall #1 for me, but I think Lover has a stronger top 5 for me. Edited March 5 by wastedpotential I CANNOT BELIEVE I FORGOT DWOHT WHO TF AM I?
1989 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Just now, wastedpotential said: Mmmm maybe we should rank our top 5 from each and then decide which is better overall For me, it's: GrammyWin Car Gowns Christ Is What You Want Look What Prayer Gave To You End Careers ()/Delichrist (it changes daily depending on my level of shame) vs. AfterChrist Five Grammys Louvre DayLegend The Archangel GodIsInThe Car is the overall #1 for me, but I think Lover has a stronger top 5 for me. Do I even have a top 5 from Puta Spoiler - Cornelia Street - Death By A Thousand Cuts - Miss Americana - Paper Rings - Cruel Summer ngl that 7-8-9-10 run on Lover is flawless Spoiler Not enough to make up for the rest of the album but
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