Klein Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Just now, FallingFromCloud9 said: She could easily work in a new set if she cut out one song from the red set, one from folklore, one from evermore and one from 1989 I think Yeah I agree, cutting songs for a new set is easy. The Archer is useless, marjorie is not essential, WANEGBT can go already, or just a quick mashup with IKYWT, tlgad (despite my deepest love for it) is disposable, and even Mastermind can be removed. She can then do a 6 songs set for TTPD. I would love if she had 5 permanents + 1 rotating, but this and the surprise songs might be a bit too much work though. 2
NEX Posted February 28 Posted February 28 10 minutes ago, vale9001 said: Usually every artist (at least as I just said It's another kind of artist) works with people are familiar, people he knows, people became his team- collaborators cause he creates a team. We have a singular "they" pronoun for these situations btw /She can still expand her horizons and seek new producers through familiar connections. At her current level of fame anyone would die to word with her
every1blinks Posted February 28 Posted February 28 21 minutes ago, Klein said: That + his involvement gives nothing about the sound. It could be Out Of The Woods, it could be Look What You Made Me Do, it could be Soon You'll Get Better, or gold rush, or betty, or Midnight Rain... and that's just within his work with Taylor. Jack is super versatile and will simply do what Taylor wants from him. all of this. Say it LOUDER ! 3
vale9001 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 22 minutes ago, =NEX= said: We have a singular "they" pronoun for these situations btw /She can still expand her horizons and seek new producers through familiar connections. At her current level of fame anyone would die to word with her To create connections you need time. This is my point. Of course you can call anyone and have anyone to produce a record. The point is you don't know if It's gonna work, producers can be good but not for you etc.. She called the producer of Pure heroine and what they made? 3 mediocre pop songs. This discussion about producers for Taylor like She is Justin Bieber are boring. As then Fearless, speak now and Red aren't 3 different records with the same producer. The Beatles renewed their sound with every album and they worked with the same producer for their entire career. Springsteen has touched every genre with the same producer from 1970 to 1990. Since Taylor always changes her sound cause her 3 (1/2) last studio albums are different the discussion is particularly boring. Taylor is really the kinda of Singer songwriter artist just work with a stable teams when She founds it. Not a pop machine artist. Edited February 28 by vale9001 1
bucketsofnuggets Posted February 28 Posted February 28 44 minutes ago, Klein said: Yeah I agree, cutting songs for a new set is easy. The Archer is useless I beg to differ. The Archer is one of my favorite moments of the tour. I'll never get over that video circulating early tour days where the sunset literally lights her up like an angel.
Mdawg Posted February 28 Posted February 28 8 minutes ago, bucketsofnuggets said: I beg to differ. The Archer is one of my favorite moments of the tour. I'll never get over that video circulating early tour days where the sunset literally lights her up like an angel. Sorry, The Archer is the first thing I would cut, too--the sun will still be there for its replacement 2
lasthauntedkiss Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) my ideal setlist with some alterations miss americana cruel summer lover the archer fearless ybwm love story willow champagne problems tolerATE it ready for it delicate don't blame me lwymmd sparks fly enchanted long live state of grace red holy ground atw 5 the 1 august / illicit affairs my tears ricochet cardigan style blank space shake it off wildest dreams / bad blood ootw picture to burn our song Tim McGraw surprise song surprise song ttpd song ttpd song ttpd song ttpd song lavender haze / anti-hero midnight rain vigilante **** bejeweled karma Edited February 28 by lasthauntedkiss 2
folkloreking Posted February 28 Posted February 28 3 hours ago, Klein said: Yeah I agree, cutting songs for a new set is easy. marjorie is not essential, 1
Lille Posted February 28 Posted February 28 The Archer cut/Betty cut/WANEGBT (or mash up with IKYWT)/go back to ATW (Original)/Mastermind cut, enough room for 5 songs for TTPD. 1
leo in saint tropez Posted February 28 Posted February 28 it’s funny to see you all thinking that taylor will make significant changes to the tour because of the new album. you know she’s a perfectionist and likes to do everything right, especially for the fans. imagine part of the tour having songs cut from the setlist just to make way for a new set with the new album. the eras is a spectacle, so making drastic alterations would be unfair. perhaps she could sing some of them during surprise songs, but i believe she might promote the album in a different way that doesn’t involve the eras tour—maybe a special event or even a dedicated show for the album.
Maroon legacy Posted February 28 Posted February 28 5 hours ago, State of Grace. said: This right here is the problem I fear Notice how 3 of them are AOTY 1
BloodLuster Posted February 28 Posted February 28 everyone going country this year get ready for ST TV after this 3
Maroon legacy Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Jack worked with the 1975, Lorde, St. Vincent, Florence and the Machine, Lana Del Rey, Clairo and more, but ya'll act like he's Taylor's personal producer who can only make boring Mastermind-like synth-pop. Yeah, we want her to evolve and interact with other producers, but it doesn't mean that she has to cut Jack off for some reason and go make experimental album with random guys. Maybe she already tried to do music with someone else, but it didn't go well and she returned to her normal team. And I mean... she's probably very comfortable, which allows her to be so productive. I doubt that Max Martin or who else you want her to work with, would immidiately answer to her mumbling voice memo of the song that she came up with in the middle of the night. 1
Mdawg Posted February 28 Posted February 28 43 minutes ago, leo in saint tropez said: it’s funny to see you all thinking that taylor will make significant changes to the tour because of the new album. you know she’s a perfectionist and likes to do everything right, especially for the fans. imagine part of the tour having songs cut from the setlist just to make way for a new set with the new album. the eras is a spectacle, so making drastic alterations would be unfair. perhaps she could sing some of them during surprise songs, but i believe she might promote the album in a different way that doesn’t involve the eras tour—maybe a special event or even a dedicated show for the album. Unfair to who? I actually think it's unfair to the people seeing the show now that it's already been released in movie theaters/at home on demand without any changes to the show other than the surprise songs. I'm pretty sure 99.9% of fans in Europe etc. would be just fine not seeing Betty for the 100th time if they got to see TTPD with full live production. 7 1
devonedelrey Posted February 28 Posted February 28 5 hours ago, vale9001 said: To create connections you need time. This is my point. Of course you can call anyone and have anyone to produce a record. The point is you don't know if It's gonna work, producers can be good but not for you etc.. She called the producer of Pure heroine and what they made? 3 mediocre pop songs. This discussion about producers for Taylor like She is Justin Bieber are boring. As then Fearless, speak now and Red aren't 3 different records with the same producer. The Beatles renewed their sound with every album and they worked with the same producer for their entire career. Springsteen has touched every genre with the same producer from 1970 to 1990. Since Taylor always changes her sound cause her 3 (1/2) last studio albums are different the discussion is particularly boring. Taylor is really the kinda of Singer songwriter artist just work with a stable teams when She founds it. Not a pop machine artist. Her forst 3 albums sound the same to me lol, she needs to expand, yeah she can be versatile but what brought that out of her were the producers she worked with like max martin and aaron dessner, jack had some highs but a lot of low lows..the collab with st vincent gave her her biggest hit 15 years into her career, she has to keep moving past jack tbh its getting tiring
maplelattes Posted February 28 Posted February 28 guys i need more lyrics of this album i'm getting sick without knowning more verses ugh
every1blinks Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Being a Taylor stan and avid Jack hater must be a… tortured experience 1 11
19SLAYty9 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Taylor and Jack are best friends. He will be on every album at this point. The reason why midnights was synth pop was because that’s the sound she wanted. I can understand wanting her to work with new people, and for all we know she has, but to want her to go back to Max Martin? If she were to ever work with him again, it would have been on Midnights after he got his biggest hit ever with Blinding Lights. He has said that Ariana is his muse when it comes to making music with pop girls and the material we get is yes and. I’m good. 5
1989 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Once again, Jack haters are so tired. Go be miserable elsewhere. 6
cat1867 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 For the tour set list, there is a good chance that the album is full of songs she might not want to play perform nightly or don’t think are suited to a stadium tour. However, if she wants to play the songs I think she could definitely cut some songs out of the standard set lists. We don’t have any favorites from the album so it feels bitter to cut current songs for the unknown but once we hear the album there are going to be songs we will really want to hear live. The one thing that’s for sure is that she isn’t going to wait 8 months and then jump straight into a new tour for TTPD
BlackJesus Posted February 29 Posted February 29 5 minutes ago, cat1867 said: For the tour set list, there is a good chance that the album is full of songs she might not want to play perform nightly or don’t think are suited to a stadium tour. However, if she wants to play the songs I think she could definitely cut some songs out of the standard set lists. We don’t have any favorites from the album so it feels bitter to cut current songs for the unknown but once we hear the album there are going to be songs we will really want to hear live. The one thing that’s for sure is that she isn’t going to wait 8 months and then jump straight into a new tour for TTPD I think she might scrap the surprise songs and add new songs.
skizzo Posted February 29 Posted February 29 I'd be pissed now that she's finally coming here to Europe and she cuts out my favs, like Tis The Damn Season, Tolerate It, Mastermind, Midnight Rain. Cut YNTCD and play ATW5 instead. 1
taemin Posted February 29 Posted February 29 5 minutes ago, skizzo said: I'd be pissed now that she's finally coming here to Europe and she cuts out my favs, like Tis The Damn Season, Tolerate It, Mastermind, Midnight Rain. Cut YNTCD and play ATW5 instead. Yeah, I'm really hoping she doesn't cut songs for TTPD in Europe because I'm DYING to her tis the damn season live...
1989 Posted February 29 Posted February 29 I personally don’t think she’s going to cut any songs. I feel like come April 19th, she’ll be doing a different TTPD song each night (along with one mashup of past work) during the surprise song/acoustic set. I think this is also why she’s been doing mashups—to not only give the international fans a chance to hear at least parts of favorites she’s never played for them before, but to also make room for TTPD.
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