By the Water Posted July 19 Posted July 19 Peter really is incredible. I've been really into it and The Albatross lately 5
Raphy23 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 Some of my friends are getting the "Reputation Out Now" post from 2017 coming up on their instagram feed. Wtf is happening????
bunton Posted July 19 Posted July 19 36 minutes ago, Raphy23 said: Some of my friends are getting the "Reputation Out Now" post from 2017 coming up on their instagram feed. Wtf is happening???? I got that too! 1
Glamthony Posted July 19 Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Raphy23 said: Some of my friends are getting the "Reputation Out Now" post from 2017 coming up on their instagram feed. Wtf is happening???? I came here running cause i got that too!
Klein Posted July 19 Posted July 19 7 hours ago, Scheissex said: Do you mean in terms of theme? Because TTPD is not really known for its cohesiveness Yes, in terms of theme and story. I know TTPD is not cohesive, but that's actually my main (and pretty much only) criticism towards the album. There's only really one critic of the album that I think is warranted and unfortunately agree with: the album is bloated. The three main topics that I'm gathering when listening to the album are: Joe, Matty, and how fame can impact her personal life. Most of the songs fall into 1 or 2 of these categories. But then, you still have: - Travis (So High School) - Kim Kardashian (thanK you aIMee, Cassandra) - Childhood (Peter, Robin) - some songs that are redundant with another (ex: Florida!!!, that says nothing that wasn't already said better on FOTS) That's just... too much. It dilutes the message of the album. And I sadly don't find any reason to include these songs other than just increasing the number of tracks of the album to get better numbers. Imo, TTPD standard should've been about Joe/Matty, and then the deluxe be about the celebrity aspect of the album. That way the deluxe could've come and brought another level of understanding to the demise of her relationships by bringing her fame into it, because sadly, as it is, the deluxe repeats things that have already been said, and brings a ton of new topics on the table that just confuse the overall message. I think if she wanted to release SHS, TYA, Cassandra, Peter, Robin, etc... (the song I mentioned earlier), it would have been better as vault tracks. Because I think most of these songs are great and wouldn't want them erased from existence. Spoiler Standard 1. The Black Dog 2. So Long London 3. Guilty As Sin? 4. The Albatross 5. How Did It End? 6. Fresh Out The Slammer 7. Fortnight 8. The Alchemy 9. But Daddy I Love Him 10. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) 11. Down Bad 12. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 13. The Prophecy 14. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived 15. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus 16. loml 17. I Can Do It With A Broken Heart Deluxe 18. Who's Afraid Of Little Old Me 19. Clara Bow 20. I Hate It Here 21. The Manuscript Vault (don't get me wrong, I love a lot of these songs, but they are clearly not essentials to TTPD) The Tortured Poets Department Florida!!! imgonnagetyouback So High School thanK you aIMee I Look In People's Windows Cassandra Peter The Bolter Robin
Kyle-x Posted July 19 Posted July 19 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Klein said: Yes, in terms of theme and story. I know TTPD is not cohesive, but that's actually my main (and pretty much only) criticism towards the album. There's only really one critic of the album that I think is warranted and unfortunately agree with: the album is bloated. The three main topics that I'm gathering when listening to the album are: Joe, Matty, and how fame can impact her personal life. Most of the songs fall into 1 or 2 of these categories. But then, you still have: - Travis (So High School) - Kim Kardashian (thanK you aIMee, Cassandra) - Childhood (Peter, Robin) - some songs that are redundant with another (ex: Florida!!!, that says nothing that wasn't already said better on FOTS) That's just... too much. It dilutes the message of the album. And I sadly don't find any reason to include these songs other than just increasing the number of tracks of the album to get better numbers. Imo, TTPD standard should've been about Joe/Matty, and then the deluxe be about the celebrity aspect of the album. That way the deluxe could've come and brought another level of understanding to the demise of her relationships by bringing her fame into it, because sadly, as it is, the deluxe repeats things that have already been said, and brings a ton of new topics on the table that just confuse the overall message. I think if she wanted to release SHS, TYA, Cassandra, Peter, Robin, etc... (the song I mentioned earlier), it would have been better as vault tracks. Because I think most of these songs are great and wouldn't want them erased from existence. Reveal hidden contents Standard 1. The Black Dog 2. So Long London 3. Guilty As Sin? 4. The Albatross 5. How Did It End? 6. Fresh Out The Slammer 7. Fortnight 8. The Alchemy 9. But Daddy I Love Him 10. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) 11. Down Bad 12. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 13. The Prophecy 14. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived 15. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus 16. loml 17. I Can Do It With A Broken Heart Deluxe 18. Who's Afraid Of Little Old Me 19. Clara Bow 20. I Hate It Here 21. The Manuscript Vault (don't get me wrong, I love a lot of these songs, but they are clearly not essentials to TTPD) The Tortured Poets Department Florida!!! imgonnagetyouback So High School thanK you aIMee I Look In People's Windows Cassandra Peter The Bolter Robin You don't see Peter as being about Matty? The entire song is her positioning herself as Wendy and Matty as Peter. The loose ends left behind after their initial parting in 2014, broken promises, and their inability to find themselves in a timeline where they fit together. "I won't confess that I waited, but I let the lamp burn, as the men masqueraded, I hoped you return" -> literally biding time in each successive relationship while a flame still burned for her eternal muse. The song uses a point of reference from childhood, but that's only a device to illustrate her naivety for believing that one day things would work out between the two as well as provide a direct link to cardigan through the lyrical parallels. It's kind of the perfect song to serve as a prologue to lay the scene for the story that follows. Edited July 19 by Kyle-x 6 1
vale9001 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 (edited) Could be pushed by all the tour buzz but I can do it in Italy already entered top 20 on national airplay in just 2 weeks. Edited July 19 by vale9001 2
Michael196 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 36 minutes ago, MardinBeksloy said: her team is so useless when it comes to payola That song is barely scrapping the top 50 while CS & Fortnight are still doing 3M daily
Sweeftie13 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 2 hours ago, Michael196 said: That song is barely scrapping the top 50 while CS & Fortnight are still doing 3M daily It's a single since few days, it will reach peak in August... keep streaming
Michael196 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 POP 36 (+6) I Can Do It With a Broken Heart Spins: 1237 (+347) Audience: 3.049M (+0.836) HAC 27 (+3) I Can Do It With a Broken Heart Spins: 753 (+185) Audience: 2.408M (+0.614) POP 8 (-1) Fortnight: 9636 (-782) | 19.283 (-1.936) 36 (+6) I Can Do It With a Broken Heart: 1237 (+347) | 3.049 (+0.836) LWYMMD is about to pass the crown 28 minutes ago, Sweeftie13 said: It's a single since few days, it will reach peak in August... keep streaming I was referring to the Benson song, it's #44 on global spotify despite being #1 on tth meanwhile CS is at #20 despite getting removed three months ago 1 1 2
Raphy23 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 4 hours ago, MardinBeksloy said: her team is so useless when it comes to payola 4 hours ago, Michael196 said: That song is barely scrapping the top 50 while CS & Fortnight are still doing 3M daily The Benson song is miles better than the 2 TTPD songs so no surprises there 1 3
vale9001 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 Italian albums chart this week 3) TTPD 27) Lover 52) 1989 59) midnights 62) Reputation 69) folklore 92) Red 5
wastedpotential Posted July 19 Posted July 19 2 hours ago, Raphy23 said: The Benson song is miles better than the 2 TTPD songs so no surprises there I mean... TTH isn't a measure of quality And I'm not sure what you expect to accomplish coming into a Taylor album thread to praise a screechy piano ballad at her expense, from an act so small he could only book one date as her tour opener 2 5 1
skizzo Posted July 19 Posted July 19 10 hours ago, Kyle-x said: You don't see Peter as being about Matty? The entire song is her positioning herself as Wendy and Matty as Peter. The loose ends left behind after their initial parting in 2014, broken promises, and their inability to find themselves in a timeline where they fit together. "I won't confess that I waited, but I let the lamp burn, as the men masqueraded, I hoped you return" -> literally biding time in each successive relationship while a flame still burned for her eternal muse. The song uses a point of reference from childhood, but that's only a device to illustrate her naivety for believing that one day things would work out between the two as well as provide a direct link to cardigan through the lyrical parallels. It's kind of the perfect song to serve as a prologue to lay the scene for the story that follows. Especially given how Cardigan is probably about Matty too, and both songs are linked
Tusk Posted July 19 Posted July 19 8 hours ago, MardinBeksloy said: her team is so useless when it comes to payola Her team ain't wasting any of her money for a playlist.
Tusk Posted July 19 Posted July 19 1 hour ago, vale9001 said: Italian albums chart this week 3) TTPD 27) Lover 52) 1989 59) midnights 62) Reputation 69) folklore 92) Red Poor evermore. Guess there should have been The Folklore Monster to get these beautiful songs the listening they deserve. 1 2
Squall Posted July 19 Posted July 19 A French artist is selling this: Omg please Taylor copy this for TS12, 3M debut on lock
Raphy23 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 2 hours ago, wastedpotential said: I mean... TTH isn't a measure of quality And I'm not sure what you expect to accomplish coming into a Taylor album thread to praise a screechy piano ballad at her expense, from an act so small he could only book one date as her tour opener I've been to the eras tour twice, I'm a massive fan. I simply love that Benson song a lot more than Fortnight 1
wastedpotential Posted July 19 Posted July 19 14 minutes ago, Raphy23 said: I've been to the eras tour twice, I'm a massive fan. I simply love that Benson song a lot more than Fortnight Still, I'm not sure why you felt the need to share that opinion in the TTPD thread. You can stream that song as much as you like and you can think it's the greatest song ever made but idk why we have to hear about it I hope you enjoyed your Eras shows though 7 1
Cleanromantic Posted July 19 Posted July 19 Dawning in the Blue Nile He sent me Downtown Lights Spoiler Can someone make this into a gif please
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