Dear Reader Posted Friday at 08:24 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:24 AM 2 minutes ago, Klein said: Pretty much the same here. I'm not really fond of it being the track 5, merely because there's something else on the album that fits the bill a thousand times better: The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived. loml would be my second choice. So Long London only comes third when I think of track 5s (on the standard edition). I agree! I'd put loml as the first contender though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mael Posted Friday at 08:24 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:24 AM So Long, London has emerged as the best track on TTPDTA... would have preferred it as the opener though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastedpotential Posted Friday at 02:18 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:18 PM 5 hours ago, Klein said: Pretty much the same here. I'm not really fond of it being the track 5, merely because there's something else on the album that fits the bill a thousand times better: The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived. loml would be my second choice. So Long London only comes third when I think of track 5s (on the standard edition). I guess I really like it as the start of the core of the album narrative. The first four tracks are setting the premise, but then from SLL all the way through to The Alchemy it really feels like we get the entire story from the Joe breakup all the way through to Travis. Sonically/lyrically, I agree there were stronger candidates, but narratively it's perfect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted Friday at 03:35 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:35 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, wastedpotential said: I guess I really like it as the start of the core of the album narrative. The first four tracks are setting the premise, but then from SLL all the way through to The Alchemy it really feels like we get the entire story from the Joe breakup all the way through to Travis. Sonically/lyrically, I agree there were stronger candidates, but narratively it's perfect. A lot would need to be improved for a great tracklist narratively speaking tbh. TTPD's is decent, and probably one of her strongest effort on that aspect, but it's still a bit weird (like BDILH before FOTS, GAS after we closed the Joe portion of the album, WAOLOM in the middle of all this?, Down Bad right before SLL...). Spoiler I'm gonna put this in spoiler because I actually have a lot to say on that matter. Despite loving 29/31 track on the album (everything but Fortnight and Robin), from my point of view, she could have handled the tracklisting (and track selection) a lot better for the album. I think she should have kept the standard album strictly about the relationships (and remove the Travis songs because they don't fit in the general mood and ambiance of the album) and have the second part be the songs about her fame. Both aspects (relationships and fame) are essential for the album and for the time that was 2023 for her, but separating them in the two sides would make for a much more cohesive story on the standard. I would remove the songs that have nothing to do with both aspects, and therefore have these ones be chopped from the tracklist: - thanK you aIMee - Cassandra - Peter (this one is debatable if you want, but I'm not sure it's really fitting) - Robin As I said I would also remove the songs about Travis: - The Alchemy - So High School And I would finally remove the songs that fit the two main themes of the album but that don't really add anything to the narrative: - The Tortured Poets Department - Florida!!! - imgonnagetyouback - The Bolter So yeah, that would be quite the chop. But it would then go: Standard (Joe+Ratty): 1. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 2. Guilty As Sin? 3. So Long London 4. The Black Dog 5. How Did It End? 6. Fresh Out The Slammer 7. Fortnight 8. But Daddy I Love Him 9. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) 10. Down Bad 11. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus 12. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived 13. loml 14. I Look In People's Windows 15. The Prophecy 16. I Can Do It With A Broken Heart Deluxe (fame, celebrity): 17. The Albatross 18. Who's Afraid Of Little Old Me? 19. I Hate It Here 20. Clara Bow 21. The Manuscript The 6 other tracks (The Alchemy until The Bolter) that I removed would be cool as vault tracks though, just not on the main project of the album. The other 4 (TYA until Robin) could be droplets if she really wanted to release them. Edited Friday at 07:41 PM by Klein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleanromantic Posted Friday at 04:03 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:03 PM Someone should make a ttpd version of these avis 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor fanboy Posted Friday at 05:28 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:28 PM 12 hours ago, Kyle-x said: This one is fanmade but the official one on CD has shipped so should be available soon! I'm such a Clown Fad stan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor fanboy Posted Friday at 05:29 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:29 PM My real track 5 is How Did It End? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor fanboy Posted Friday at 05:33 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:33 PM 9 hours ago, Great Username said: Someone give Her a billion more dollars NOW Classic GU. Back to back flawless stanning only to end with a punchline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle-x Posted Friday at 05:51 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:51 PM The power that this has 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted Friday at 06:06 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:06 PM Have you guys noticed that there's a group of pick me swifties that love to criticize her/us in every thread filled with OTH just to get some sympathy? That's so funny lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique523 Posted Friday at 06:14 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:14 PM 1 hour ago, Badgalbriel said: Have you guys noticed that there's a group of pick me swifties that love to criticize her/us in every thread filled with OTH just to get some sympathy? That's so funny lol I noticed it too and those people are the absolute worst, i don't think any other fanbase has people like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Reader Posted Friday at 06:21 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:21 PM 14 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: Have you guys noticed that there's a group of pick me swifties that love to criticize her/us in every thread filled with OTH just to get some sympathy? That's so funny lol I know at least two that do this and it's so embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted Friday at 06:24 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:24 PM 2 minutes ago, Dear Reader said: I know at least two that do this and it's so embarrassing Can we name them? I really wanna know of it we're talking about the same people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Reader Posted Friday at 06:25 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:25 PM (edited) 1 minute ago, Badgalbriel said: Can we name them? I really wanna know of it we're talking about the same people I'd rather not cause then they'll cry and play the victim like it has happened before. I can DM you who I'm talking about though OT: TTPD is a Taylor Swift album that came out April 19th and has 31 tracks Edited Friday at 06:26 PM by Dear Reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted Friday at 06:26 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:26 PM Just now, Dear Reader said: I'd rather not cause then they'll cry and play the victim like it has happened before. I can DM you who I'm talking about though Yeah let's do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightsAtPeace Posted Friday at 06:28 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:28 PM Peter is seriously one of the best songs I've ever heard. cardigan's little sister 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightsAtPeace Posted Friday at 06:29 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:29 PM Do you guys think she's releasing a music video for ICDIWABH? I think it's possible but I'm not very positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Reader Posted Friday at 06:31 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:31 PM 1 minute ago, MidnightsAtPeace said: Do you guys think she's releasing a music video for ICDIWABH? I think it's possible but I'm not very positive If she is, it will be your footage. I wouldn't get my hopes up for new visuals while she's touring Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowRibbon Posted Friday at 06:32 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:32 PM So Long, London is track 5 over The Smallest Man because while there are several track 5s about sh*tty relationships across her discography, there was no track 5 that touched the quiet acceptance (and kinda melancholic one) of a relationship running its course... I find it very elegant and it's definitely in my Top 3 of the album 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By the Water Posted Friday at 06:35 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:35 PM SLL is perfect as track 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle-x Posted Friday at 06:51 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:51 PM I like SLL as track 5 because it's about the relationship that set the stage for the events of all of the songs surrounding it. And I feel like the emotional core of that song is about a deeper wound than any of the other songs are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989 Posted Friday at 07:35 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:35 PM How Did It End? > So Long, London I love SLL, but sometimes I think it's a touch too obvious as a track 5. Plus, it's actually quite surface level as far as that relationship + it ending goes. How Did It End? is actually devastating when you think of not only the relationship and the end of it, but Taylor's love life up to that point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnitaFalafel Posted Saturday at 07:38 AM Share Posted Saturday at 07:38 AM Been away from this thread for a minute, have we accepted TTPD:TA is her best album ever no skips? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayliah Posted Saturday at 10:07 AM Share Posted Saturday at 10:07 AM On 7/5/2024 at 12:24 PM, mael said: So Long, London has emerged as the best track on TTPDTA... would have preferred it as the opener though... Yep it would have ushered the album into the TTPD vibe beautifully. I would have chosen My boy as the second and Down bad as then prob fresh out the slammer... as track 4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted Saturday at 11:17 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:17 AM 3 hours ago, AnitaFalafel said: Been away from this thread for a minute, have we accepted TTPD:TA is her best album ever no skips? No. It's a great album, but too much filler. 60% of the Anthology is just bad BAD, while the standard album is of course much more polished but still lacks some editing. TTPD is no folklore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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