album Taylor Swift - 'THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT'

[Badgalbriel]

1 minute ago, PoisonedIvy said:

One day yall will be begging for jacks return the way some of yall pine for Nathan and Max

I really don't think this is happening anytime soon lol

[PoisonedIvy]

1 minute ago, Badgalbriel said:

I really don't think this is happening anytime soon lol

Someone get Jack's wife pregnant so he has to take paternity leave  

[Feanor]

Y'all being fooled by her speech that she only gave cause Max was in the room.

She's never leaving Jack/Aaron at this point, doubters need to start accepting it.

 

[mael]

It's okay to like both Nathan and Godtonoff... I do have a problem with people constantly berating others for displaying even an ounce of negativity though...

 

[favorite crime]

7 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

One day yall will be begging for jacks return the way some of yall pine for Nathan and Max

Wbk. Jack has produced almost 4x as many songs for Taylor as Max has and shown much more versatility. And especially these Nathan posts are so unserious. He did a cute job when Taylor was just strumming a guitar or playing some piano but he can't do much more than that. If anything she might want to try out some new producers but going back to Nathan and Max would be such a regression

[PoisonedIvy]

13 minutes ago, Feanor said:

Y'all being fooled by her speech that she only gave cause Max was in the room.

She's never leaving Jack/Aaron at this point, doubters need to start accepting it.

 

Is there any other singer that retained the same main producer for more than 5 projects? We've had Jack around since 2014's 1989, but he wasn't the main producer. Still, though. 6 albums is a lot of his presence. I wonder what the precedent for this is 

[Lachlan]

I'm still not sure why Jack is the one being bashed on this album when Aaron is the one who produced multiple songs that are almost identical to things on folklore and evermore. 

[kayliah]

I love Nathan Chapman. He has grown a lot as a producer too and he and Taylor made magic as well as she is doing with dessner. I miss him .rowe sabotaged all the country records unintentionally i guess. She should have tested her rerecordings first with several country producers first. I have no choice but to listen to some of big machine master recordings cuz my favorite taylor songs were butchered to the point of being unlistenable. Also the amateurish copy and paste and vocal editing on speak now my god... prob the worst rerecording yet. Hopefully one day the old ones will come back and be hers again. 

Edited May 20, 2024 by kayliah

[kayliah]

15 minutes ago, Lachlan said:

I'm still not sure why Jack is the one being bashed on this album when Aaron is the one who produced multiple songs that are almost identical to things on folklore and evermore. 

Its not dessner's and antonoff's finest work. When dessner said the album was good instead of great in an interview now i know what he meant. TTPD is not top tier work.

[bluebirdsforever]

What all of the (really great) think pieces being posted in here are underscoring for me is that, in spite of (or maybe because of) all its flaws, this album is more interesting to unpack than a Taylor album has been since... maybe pre-1989? If ever?

 

It's convoluted and actively hostile in a way that those who are reading it uncharitably are assuming is an accidental byproduct of being bad but everyone who's spent even a little time thinking critically about Taylor Swift (and I've spent far too much) can see clear as day is mostly very intentional in a way that - not to use the same word again - is just plain interesting. 

If I had to answer right now, I'd probably rank it no higher than #6 or maybe #5 on an all-time Taylor album ranking, but I'm also spending more time thinking about it than I have pretty much any of those other albums. There's so much to chew on and interrogate if you're willing to look past your misgivings about who produced what or what music you'd rather her be making instead. In many ways, this album is her unequivocal f you to that entire conversation in the first place.

[Peak Now]

Wait, was Max at the show? Can't find anything online

[SlimyGhoul]

A month of this album and I still really hate it :\ I was expecting so much more from her and I LOVE Taylor (1989 my fave album of all time and I love Fearless, Red, Rep, Lover, Folklore, Evermore, and Midnights), but this album was *really* not for me. It feels like she was focused on writing *lyrics* and seeing how many viral tiktok sounds she can get as opposed to making *music*. 

[mael]

2 minutes ago, SlimyGhoul said:

A month of this album and I still really hate it :\ I was expecting so much more from her and I LOVE Taylor (1989 my fave album of all time and I love Fearless, Red, Rep, Lover, Folklore, Evermore, and Midnights), but this album was *really* not for me. It feels like she was focused on writing *lyrics* and seeing how many viral tiktok sounds she can get as opposed to making *music*. 

Maybe folkmore was Her limit 

[Taylor fanboy]

53 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

Someone get Jack's wife pregnant so he has to take paternity leave  

Someone and not Jack himself? 

[Dear Reader]

11 minutes ago, AndThenTheCocaine said:

Wait, was Max at the show? Can't find anything online

She said in her speech before singing the medley that he was there 

[Peak Now]

TTPD is lowkey slam poetry set to piano

[Burqa]

i can't believe i'm finally seeing her this saturday after 12 years 

[Dear Reader]

27 minutes ago, Burqa said:

i can't believe i'm finally seeing her this saturday after 12 years 

omg it's the same for me. my friday show is the first show in 12 years, since I've been a fan 

Edited May 20, 2024 by Dear Reader

[Tusk]

26 minutes ago, Burqa said:

i can't believe i'm finally seeing her this saturday after 12 years 

 

19 minutes ago, Dear Reader said:

omg it's the same for me. my friday show if the first show in 12 years, since I've been a fan 

[Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus]

It makes me happy that Max was at the Stockholm show and she did a medley for him  that era of her career is so magical to me

 

On page 1939 no less 

[EarthJang]

Is this true? 

 

[SlimyGhoul]

1 hour ago, mael said:

Maybe folkmore was Her limit 

Maybe!! The lyricism on those albums was so harmonious with the production and melodies, it was a perfect marriage. This album comes off like she's trying very hard to show us how vast her vocabulary is and not how good she is at making music. It's a total snoozefest. I genuinely loved most of her previous albums (not a huge fan of Speak Now and Red is a little bloated for me but I still enjoy them), I was shocked at how much this album did not resonate with me; moreover it came off really poorly in my eyes. :( 

But oh well! Not every album has to resonate with me personally. It's fun to discuss regardless.

[hoax]

57 minutes ago, every1blinks said:

It makes me happy that Max was at the Stockholm show and she did a medley for him  that era of her career is so magical to me

 

On page 1939 no less 

nnnnn wait 

[kayliah]

Yay hopefully max gives her her after hours and blinding lights... that would be awesome. I really miss Pop taylor... she shines the best with pop masterpieces like Cruel Summer,Anti hero, blank space and I knew you were trouble. I hope she makes some pop classics again and hopefully all that orange is for that october 2016 album that was supposed to come out.

[Lost In Paradise]

I think this album is cool because out of 31 songs, you're bound to find at least 10 that you enjoy if you love Taylor's music.

 

it doesn't really even feel like an album that she meant for us to play front to back all the way through. I imagine each song on a piece of paper being passed around the Tortured Poets Department, each member collecting the songs that mean the most to us

 

here's my album (haven't created a tracklist yet - this is just in order of appearance)

 

Down Bad

So Long London

FOTS

Florida!!!

GAS?

WAOLOM?

ICDIWABH

Clara Bow

Black Dog

imgonnagetyouback

The Albatross

So High School

ILIPW

The Prophecy