pinkbowvintage Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 y'alll I'm a folkmore STAN but....this might be her best album or second/third best 5
cruelhprince Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 OOTD (Obsession Of The Day) has been But Daddy I Love Him aka Love Story's daughter 6 1
vale9001 Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 11 minutes ago, Magickarp said: So good Max said no elevator instrumentals FortStyle is a BOP too, especially the chorus The way Hack drags down everything he touches. Thank GOD Fortnight was already a good base to begin with. Oh Fortnight, the 20 week #1 that you could've been (83+68)=76 Time, the ultimate truth teller Soon the 2 month old WCBF, will be outstreaming the 2 week old Fortnight even though the latter is the superior song, but that's all to do with miss Swift's superior lyrics & melodies And fortnight will outstream in few weeks the max Martin produced track Yes and? released 3 months ago, as any TTPD album track already outstreamed every max Martin ES album track 4
selena_lavigne Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 Just now, pinkbowvintage said: y'alll I'm a folkmore STAN but....this might be her best album or second/third best Which is why i'm not a huge fan of this album because this album is giving folklore but with better song concepts.
vale9001 Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 (edited) Max Martin stans are bringing the ariana Song as proof he's still the top producer in the game as this ariana Song is the smash of the century. Meanwhile Its chart run on the hot 100 1-3- 10- 9- 8 - 8 - 33 (11 without Taylor new songs) - 19 Edited May 13, 2024 by vale9001 1 5
selena_lavigne Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 1 minute ago, vale9001 said: Max Martin stans are bringing the ariana Song as proof he's still the top producer in the game cause as this ariana Song is the smash of the century. Meanwhile Its chart run on the hot 100 1-3- 10- 9- 8 - 8 - 33 (11 without Taylor new songs) - 19 I Can Do It With A Broken Heart is more me, but i'm telling you We Can't Be Friends attempted to rip my soul into several pieces. 1
Buffy Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 2 hours ago, Magickarp said: Now wottice this BOP I need a full version I think it's from this mashup
UnusualBoy Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 5 hours ago, By the Water said: Atp I'm pretty sure ICDIWABH will be the second single #JusticeforBadDown
PoisonedIvy Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 (edited) 14 hours ago, Kyle-x said: A resequencing of TTPD because I cannot sleep Spoiler Chapter I: The Longing 1. Fortnight 2. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus 3. Peter 4. I Look In People's Windows 5. Guilty as Sin? A rumination on the "what-ifs?" of a relationship that could-have-been. Longing and yearning for a love that was never actually lost. Evidence of the narrator being trapped in a relationship while coveting another. Provides essential context for the chapters to come. Chapter II: The Disintegration 6. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 7. I Hate It Here 8. So Long, London 9. The Prophecy 10. How Did It End? 11. I Can Do It with a Broken Heart The relationship the narrator feels trapped in ends. A range of complicated feelings emerge. The narrator is feeling both devastated and a sense of newfound freedom. Explanations for the actions of the narrator that follow are presented here. Chapter III: The Rebound 12. The Bolter 13. Fresh Out the Slammer 14. Florida!!! 15. imgonnagetyouback 16. Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? 17. But Daddy I Love Him 18. The Alchemy 19. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) 20. The Tortured Poets Department The narrator gets right into that getaway car and drives it straight into the deep end with a rekindled flame. Once brought to the light, the relationship is immediately scrutinized by outside influences and causes the narrator lash out. The narrator relates the relationship to being under the influence in many of the songs and the cracks in the facade start to show themselves by the end of the chapter. Chapter IV: The Betrayal 21. Down Bad 22. The Black Dog 23. loml 24. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived Things have gone up in flames for the narrator in the new relationship. All of the red flags from the previous chapter are now being dissected and put on blast in this chapter. Chapter V: New Beginnings 25. So High School 26. The Albatross A new muse has entered the picture and a potential taste of the things to come on the next record are being teased here. Clara Bow thanK you aIMee Cassandra Robin The Manuscript These songs feel too specifically tied to past lore that I can't really place them in the sequence of events I've laid out here. I could maybe stretch The Manuscript to be the closer but it still feels a bit too tied to the re-recordings and the Swiftie experience to be placed in this world dd. Clara Bow is in my top 3 so I'd never cut her so don't get it twisted. These would be cute bonus tracks. I'll play, because I also finally created a new tracklist to give the album some better sonic diversity, more interesting transitions, and more dynamic storytelling narratives. I — Inciting Events (introduce the album themes of anger, denial, bargaining, and sadness) 1. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 2. imgonnagetyouback 3. Down Bad II — Escapism (the initial escapist coping with the fallout of the relationship) 4. I Hate It Here 5. So Long, London 6. I Look In People's Windows 7. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus 8. The Black Dog III — Longing (reminiscing and becoming delusionally love struck at the prospect of a new fling to distract you from your breakup) 9. The Tortured Poets Department 10. So High School 11. The Alchemy 12. Guilty as Sin? IV — Trainwreck (the sudden start and abrupt end to a rebound relationship. The Bolter doesn't fit "Matty" but in my mind this rearranged tracklist is not tied to her personal experiences but a different fictional narrative) 13. Fresh Out the Slammer 14. I Can Fix Him (No Really, I Can) 15. The Bolter 16. But Daddy I Love Him V — Rage & Reckoning (angry at the failures, reflecting on the cracks in her psyche and what got her to this point.) 17. The Albatross 18. Florida!!! 19. Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? 20. Cassandra 21. Fortnight 22. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived VI — Surrender (she falls to her knees, exhausted from the release of all her rage, and finally tries to process her grief to relieve herself of emotional burden.) 23. How Did It End? 24. The Prophecy 25. loml VII — Acceptance (she closes the chapter and finds out how to move forward with her professional and personal endeavors.) 26. Peter 27. Clara Bow 28. I Can Do It With a Broken Heart 29. thanK you aIMee 30. The Manuscript My footnotes and thoughts on the new sections / tracklist / song placements & transitions: Spoiler Robin has no place in my narrative and it doesn't really resonate with me so I didn't mind cutting it. My Boy as an opener is so hilarious because starting the album with "Oh here we go again," would be so legendary lol. It's also a higher energy start. Flows nicely into the next song. Most of my transitions are nice imo. I LOVE section II, it might be the best part of my reorder. The songs are all narratively and sonically perfect together. She also mentions selling her apartment in Chloe et al. AND The Black Dog, which are back to back so there's that connecting thread. all 5 of these songs flow so perfectly together. Especially ILIPW -> COSOSOM -> TBD. III - So High School and Alchemy are more about choosing to pursue the rebound instead of actually being with them already, so they're fictional in this scenario just like Guilty as Sin. TTPD & So High School both have a dreamy pop rock feel that helps them complement each other. Also TTPD is a much better song when it's not at the beginning of the album experience while you're still entering this world. In section IV, -she- leaves the rebound after realizing she can't fix this broken man she's irrationally fled to. BDILH is just a summation of that craziness to close out the rebound chapter. V — I love Albatross & Florida together, very oceanic. WAOLOM - Cass - Fort - TSMWEL flow really together too, imo. Fortnite might seem out of place here but for me it's kind of the anger of both the relationship AND the rebound not working out. So I like it better down here as she begins to process her rage. VI — saddest section, beautiful segment. VII — I like these songs of closure sitting together. I also enjoy Clara Bow more when it's not a closing track, so this made me appreciate the song more. Edited May 13, 2024 by PoisonedIvy 3
PoisonedIvy Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 32 minutes ago, pinkbowvintage said: y'alll I'm a folkmore STAN but....this might be her best album or second/third best For me TTPD is comfortably wedged in as her 2nd best. evermore isn't entirely safe as my #1 album as I thought she might always be, but she is my comfort album and TTPD is emotionally UNcomfortable (because it is literally chronicling Taylor's psychotic break ) so it won't be the album to comfort me when I have anxieties or fears or worries or sadness or whatever BUT if TTPD holds up just as well over time, evermore will have to secure her wig at the top of my ranking. 1
PoisonedIvy Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 As someone who used to be a big Ariana fan, all her music ages like milk. Everyone who thinks ES is amazing this year will pay it no mind in a couple of years. But I love that she was able to turn lemons into lemonade, I never care for women's personal lives becoming detrimental to their careers. And as long as the fans are happy there's nothing bad to say But enough with trying to use that as a reason to bring Max Martin back. The man is washed up. Taylor has outgrown him and that's fine. She's also outgrowing Jack, so we'll need to bring on Thom Yorke or Sufjan Stevens soon 6
kiche Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 swiftolgist did a rearrange of the album tracklist and i fear he ate, i don't know how taylor missed the chance of starting the album with so long london 2 1
selena_lavigne Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 The most boring thing a fanbase can do in unison is re-arrange a tracklist. Either write me a compelling short-story or keep it. 1
selena_lavigne Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 The tracklist is there for a reason. Taylor Swift thinks long and hard about her tracklists. She spent months coming up with a perfect tracklist for her fanbase. And y'all wanna tear it to shreds and re-arrange it? Fine. Fine. 1
selena_lavigne Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 Mr. Swiftologist i may watch your videos because you remind me of James Charles and i watched his videos in high school.
ThousandMiles Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 2 hours ago, NicoleAMatty said: "I Hate It Here" is such a beautiful song, I hate how the whole discourse about it revolved around that one line. It's been on repeat all day. It's the only song that's stuck with me it truly resonates with where I am in my life right now 1
selena_lavigne Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 @wastedpotential @Starchild oh yes, thumbs me down when i'm one of the 10 people that actually watches more than 3 seconds of people's instagram videos. (which may be why my mental health is in shambles )
hoax Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 nnn so I guess the threadban for those horny posts was temporary Spoiler 1 hour ago, selena_lavigne said: Seeing people sing these, mediocre at best lyrics, on my Instagram feed is hilarious to me. 1 hour ago, selena_lavigne said: Like girl, come on, cover Fortnight, cover TTPD, cover The Alchemy, cover So High School. 1 hour ago, selena_lavigne said: Which is why i'm not a huge fan of this album because this album is giving folklore but with better song concepts. 1 hour ago, selena_lavigne said: I Can Do It With A Broken Heart is more me, but i'm telling you We Can't Be Friends attempted to rip my soul into several pieces. 39 minutes ago, selena_lavigne said: The most boring thing a fanbase can do in unison is re-arrange a tracklist. Either write me a compelling short-story or keep it. 35 minutes ago, selena_lavigne said: The tracklist is there for a reason. Taylor Swift thinks long and hard about her tracklists. She spent months coming up with a perfect tracklist for her fanbase. And y'all wanna tear it to shreds and re-arrange it? Fine. Fine. 33 minutes ago, selena_lavigne said: Mr. Swiftologist i may watch your videos because you remind me of James Charles and i watched his videos in high school. 4
hoax Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 2 minutes ago, selena_lavigne said: @wastedpotential @Starchild oh yes, thumbs me down when i'm one of the 10 people that actually watches more than 3 seconds of people's instagram videos. (which may be why my mental health is in shambles ) Girl, whatever lyrics you think are "mediocre"... that's a you problem, not the lyrics 1
selena_lavigne Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 (edited) 11 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: Girl, whatever lyrics you think are "mediocre"... that's a you problem, not the lyrics What do you want me to say, if i think about the same 7 people while listening to every single song the album kind of slaps? Is that what you want me to confess? i think it's hilarious watching people sing this. Please sing it some more. I would like to request a cover of The Tortured Poet's Department. Edited May 13, 2024 by selena_lavigne
PoisonedIvy Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 51 minutes ago, selena_lavigne said: The tracklist is there for a reason. Taylor Swift thinks long and hard about her tracklists. She spent months coming up with a perfect tracklist for her fanbase. And y'all wanna tear it to shreds and re-arrange it? Fine. Fine. Girl what, Taylor is notoriously bad at tracklist arrangements. Red is literally insane, Lover too Just because she INTENTIONALLY makes it insane doesn't make it acceptable I respect her choices but I also exercise my creative freedoms too 2 1
cruelhprince Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 tbf TTPD has one of her best tracklists (standard at least) but I agree SLL as the opener would eat 1
Miles. Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 6 minutes ago, selena_lavigne said: What do you want me to say, if i think about the same 7 people while listening to every single song the album kind of slaps? Is that what you want me to confess? What i thought was funny was seeing people sing this What if I roll the stone away? They're gonna crucify me anyway What if the way you hold me Is actually what's holy? If long suffering propriety Is what they want from me They don't know how you've haunted me So stunningly I choose you and me ... Religiously i think it's hilarious watching people sing this. Please sing it some more. I would like to request a cover of The Tortured Poet's Department. If you think these lyrics are "hilarious" then you didn't grow up in a religious household with religious trauma. I could write a whole essay on why this bridge is so incredible, but in short: Taylor is choosing love over a hateful, oppressive religion. This might sound simple to someone who grew up with agnostic parents, but I can assure you, when you've been told your whole life that you're going to hell because of who you love, it's unbelievably powerful. A lot of people on this forum, and in the world in general, can relate to this. 2
selena_lavigne Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 Just now, PoisonedIvy said: Girl what, Taylor is notoriously bad at tracklist arrangements. Red is literally insane, Lover too Just because she INTENTIONALLY makes it insane doesn't make it acceptable I respect her choices but I also exercise my creative freedoms too You wanna hear 8 ballads in a row? Do you? I personally do not. So thank you Taylor Swift for spacing out the ballads on your albums most of the time.
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