vale9001 Posted April 30 Posted April 30 In the Song she said "so i change your name and all the clues". So It's not about a literal Aimee. I guess both think are true...the Song is about the reality failed star but mixed with some of the experiences She had at the beginning of the career from someone around her didn't like her music and thought She would never make It (for example that part about the fact Aimee doesn't like her songs doesn't have so much sense for me cause i think Kim kinda like her music, She made some public appecciation, went to concerts, It's not that sophisticated girl ).
Vagabond Posted April 30 Posted April 30 (edited) is anyone else a stan and feel that TTPD (all 31 songs) is by far their favorite thing Tay has ever done and easily at the top of their album ranking? honestly online reception has made me feel insane. i feel like she released her magnum opus (though i think it'll continue to go up and up for her) and no one is really acknowledging it as such. thoughts ladies? Edited April 30 by Vagabond 7
Brooklyn Baby Posted April 30 Posted April 30 7 minutes ago, Vagabond said: is anyone else a stan and feel that TTPD (all 31 songs) is by far their favorite thing Tay has ever done and easily at the top of their album ranking? honestly online reception has made me feel insane. i feel like she released her magnum opus (though i think it'll continue to go up and up for her) and no one is really acknowledging it as such. thoughts ladies? It's too early for me to have any definitive ranking but this is somewhere in the 5-6 range for me. The standard edition brings it down for me a lot. Her magnum opus is still folklore/evermore 1
greeneyedsoul Posted April 30 Posted April 30 For the Wikipedia girlies: #1 in Croatia (international/foreign chart) https://www.top-lista.hr/www/lista-prodaje-strano-17-tjedan-2024/ 3
Enrique523 Posted April 30 Posted April 30 1 hour ago, Vagabond said: is anyone else a stan and feel that TTPD (all 31 songs) is by far their favorite thing Tay has ever done and easily at the top of their album ranking? honestly online reception has made me feel insane. i feel like she released her magnum opus (though i think it'll continue to go up and up for her) and no one is really acknowledging it as such. thoughts ladies? Taylor is at the absolute peak of her fame and unfortunately the album is being judged through the idea of her not really deserving that fame for some reason. Something changed for the worse once it was announced she reached billionaire statut. From that point on people decided it was completely ok to dehumanize her in every way possible and to never take her music seriously as a result. Because after all, how can a billionaire be a real human being right? How can a billionaire possibly have personal troubles? How can a billionaire writes truly deep songs about love and life? I'm not a fan of billionaires myself but the way Taylor is being singled out as a evil person by default of being one is extremely weird and worrying, especially since she has never done anything truly evil or problematic that justify this level of vitriol. I'm kind of worried about the reception of her future albums since everything is always going to be seen through the lens of "billionaire privileged white woman". I know i'm rambling a bit here but i needed to get it off my chest. Taylor's level of fame is both a blessing and a curse. On one hand i'm happy about her music and tours being so successful as she truly deserves it. But at the same time i'm worried about the way people feel the right to be so vile about her as if she's not an actual person. We'll see how things evolve in the following years but right now i'm a bit worried. 5
PoisonedIvy Posted April 30 Posted April 30 14 minutes ago, vale9001 said: In the Song she said "so i change your name and all the clues". So It's not about a literal Aimee. I guess both think are true...the Song is about the reality failed star but mixed with some of the experiences She had at the beginning of the career from someone around her didn't like her music and thought She would never make It (for example that part about the fact Aimee doesn't like her songs doesn't have so much sense for me cause i think Kim kinda like her music, She made some public appecciation, went to concerts, It's not that sophisticated girl ). The "name change" could be the capital K I M though, drawing all of our attention to a notoriously public feud and -off- of the name "Aimee." A double red herring if you will! 1
Wolf Alice Posted April 30 Posted April 30 13 minutes ago, Vagabond said: is anyone else a stan and feel that TTPD (all 31 songs) is by far their favorite thing Tay has ever done and easily at the top of their album ranking? Yes this is her magnum opus for me 2
PoisonedIvy Posted April 30 Posted April 30 but I do agree Aimee is probably an amalgamation of a childhood bully and Kim. Taylor has proven with this album she can interchange her muses within the same song very well now. Which makes her writing so much more dynamic and multidimensional. folklore and evermore were big steps forward in that regard, she learned how to write real feelings into fictional characters perspectives, now she's writing real feelings for many different people into fragmented but cohesive narratives. There are songs on TTPD that could very easily apply to Matty AND Joe simultaneously. And that's a testament to her growth as an artist that we aren't as clear with the muses as we used to be in the days of Dead John and Style 4
willmcclure9 Posted April 30 Posted April 30 I am literally OBSESSED with So Long London its her best song for me 2 1
PoisonedIvy Posted April 30 Posted April 30 I guess Midnights helped with this too. She wrote feelings about Joe into songs that were marketed as a glance into her past, so they were still applicable enough to some of her former flames. Scott & Scooter having the same initials as spider boy (Karma) also makes for a dynamic duo of muses too Ah our multiverse of madness queen 3
Achilles. Posted April 30 Posted April 30 21 minutes ago, Magickarp said: The Black Dog confuses me. Lyrics all point to Ratty, but then the bar owner says Joe is the regular I'll take the lyrics as truth. It could just be another song that mixes things together because she had a similar feeling in multiple situations. Or it could be fictional. Or it could be about Sirius Black. 1
Achilles. Posted April 30 Posted April 30 The way the album's been out for 11 days and I already have more songs over 50 plays than Lover's managed in 5 years. It's gonna pull a Midnights and surpass Lover's lifetime playcount in under a month. 2
Mdawg Posted April 30 Posted April 30 Chloe et al. finally hit once I stopped trying to figure out if I should know who those people are 1 7
ultraviolence.xx Posted April 30 Posted April 30 1 minute ago, Mdawg said: Chloe et al. finally hit once I stopped trying to figure out if I should know who those people are i choked 1
SharGaga Posted April 30 Posted April 30 35 minutes ago, Magickarp said: The Black Dog confuses me. Lyrics all point to Ratty, but then the bar owner says Joe is the regular I'll take the lyrics as truth. The Starting Line (obvious & verifiable) Miss the smoke (could be Weed, but cigs just seem more fitting for smell & "clean air") Hazing + Exorcise (She's hurt, but still respectful to Joe. Matty seems like he just wanted to **** her, & get out, & she felt disgusted by what she did) You said I needed a bravе man, then proceeded to play him literally LOML "A con man sells a fool a get-love-quick scheme" Cause tail between your legs, you're leavin (Smallest Man. She left Joe, Ratty ghosted her, & was repeatedly referred to as a coward on TTPD:TA) "And so I watch as you walk / Into some bar called The Black Dog / And pierce new holes in my heart" Maybe it meant she saw Rat walk into a bar Toe went to often. Hence the "Pierce new holes" line. I mean imagine the guy u left your almost husband for, going into your almost husband's regular bar. The guy who ghosted you, & you're trying to stalk to see where he is. I don't think she cares about Joe's location, as much as a guy who stopped responding to her. Surely y'all can relate stalking the snap location of someone who ghosts u outta nowhere The Black Dog is about Joe. The smoke lyric is a reference to a similar lyric in Daylight.
Achilles. Posted April 30 Posted April 30 Thinking about future top 10 smash hit Delicate (Taylor's Version). Vengeance will be OURS. 2
Klein Posted April 30 Posted April 30 19 minutes ago, Vagabond said: is anyone else a stan and feel that TTPD (all 31 songs) is by far their favorite thing Tay has ever done and easily at the top of their album ranking? honestly online reception has made me feel insane. i feel like she released her magnum opus (though i think it'll continue to go up and up for her) and no one is really acknowledging it as such. thoughts ladies? I've been saying since Day 1 that it was my absolute favorite album she's ever released. But in the first few days I also told myself that it was probably just the excitement of new music so I kinda wanted to reserve my judgement. But the album has only becomes better and better over time for me. There's SO MUCH happening everywhere. I'm fathoming the songs' lyrics, noticing every little details in the productions, starting to understand how free she was in like the composition of the songs (some of them have some very unconventional structure for a pop songs). I just love it so much. 7
PoisonedIvy Posted April 30 Posted April 30 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Vagabond said: is anyone else a stan and feel that TTPD (all 31 songs) is by far their favorite thing Tay has ever done and easily at the top of their album ranking? honestly online reception has made me feel insane. i feel like she released her magnum opus (though i think it'll continue to go up and up for her) and no one is really acknowledging it as such. thoughts ladies? Yes, everyone who doesn't recognize that this is the most artistic collection of music she's ever released is just not as ahead of the times as we are. This is everything that was great about Speak Now (wordy songs with changing choruses & phenomenal and expansive bridges) / Red (sonic experimentation & fusion of all her past sounds + teasers of what's next in her career's sonic palette) / reputation (psychological purview into how her public notoriety affects her emotions) / folklore+evermore (fictional tales interwoven with real life emotions, characters, and narratives characterized with categorically strong diction and prose coupled with beautiful flourishes in orchestral and acoustic alternative-pop-folk instrumentation) / and Midnights (free flowing stream of consciousness lyrics layered in dreamy synths that feel both wistfully nostalgic and euphorically modern). It's everything anyone could ever want. Edited April 30 by PoisonedIvy 11 1
Dear Reader Posted April 30 Posted April 30 22 minutes ago, Mdawg said: Chloe et al. finally hit once I stopped trying to figure out if I should know who those people are Chloe and oomf is a certified top 40 hit 1 2
Nein Posted April 30 Posted April 30 A heinous crime that The Black Dog only peaked at #25. It deserved Top 10!
Mdawg Posted April 30 Posted April 30 10 minutes ago, Nein said: A heinous crime that The Black Dog only peaked at #25. It deserved Top 10! Who said it peaked? 2 7
mael Posted April 30 Posted April 30 Sophia and The Gang melodies are kinda melodying I fear…. I don't like the "and you just watched it" parts tho
vale9001 Posted April 30 Posted April 30 (edited) 2 hours ago, Enrique523 said: Taylor is at the absolute peak of her fame and unfortunately the album is being judged through the idea of her not really deserving that fame for some reason. Something changed for the worse once it was announced she reached billionaire statut. From that point on people decided it was completely ok to dehumanize her in every way possible and to never take her music seriously as a result. Because after all, how can a billionaire be a real human being right? How can a billionaire possibly have personal troubles? How can a billionaire writes truly deep songs about love and life? I'm not a fan of billionaires myself but the way Taylor is being singled out as a evil person by default of being one is extremely weird and worrying, especially since she has never done anything truly evil or problematic that justify this level of vitriol. I'm kind of worried about the reception of her future albums since everything is always going to be seen through the lens of "billionaire privileged white woman". I know i'm rambling a bit here but i needed to get it off my chest. Taylor's level of fame is both a blessing and a curse. On one hand i'm happy about her music and tours being so successful as she truly deserves it. But at the same time i'm worried about the way people feel the right to be so vile about her as if she's not an actual person. We'll see how things evolve in the following years but right now i'm a bit worried. you people live too much on the internet- twitter. She was rich before that. Do you really think the real world is an ariana grande stan on internet thinking is an issue if you have 1B dollars on the bank account of 950M. Why do you take people dumb as wheel and assume they have impact in the world. What you are even talking about?. Di Caprio is rich, Bob Dylan is rich (has a net worth of 700M)...everyone in hollywood is rich. Being rich has nothing to do with the hate someone being at the top just gets. Move on. Edited April 30 by vale9001
chiliam Posted April 30 Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Vagabond said: is anyone else a stan and feel that TTPD (all 31 songs) is by far their favorite thing Tay has ever done and easily at the top of their album ranking? honestly online reception has made me feel insane. i feel like she released her magnum opus (though i think it'll continue to go up and up for her) and no one is really acknowledging it as such. thoughts ladies? After 10 days, its for sure in the top 2 competing with Red for my personal ranking. Red just has so many nostalgia moments for me. But maybe nostalgia is a mind trick, and TTPD will get to my #1 with some more times. So you're not alone. This album has everything we loved about her previous works but more raw, more extreme, more extra, whats not to love.
Saintlor Posted April 30 Posted April 30 2 hours ago, PoisonedIvy said: but I do agree Aimee is probably an amalgamation of a childhood bully and Kim. Taylor has proven with this album she can interchange her muses within the same song very well now. Which makes her writing so much more dynamic and multidimensional. folklore and evermore were big steps forward in that regard, she learned how to write real feelings into fictional characters perspectives, now she's writing real feelings for many different people into fragmented but cohesive narratives. There are songs on TTPD that could very easily apply to Matty AND Joe simultaneously. And that's a testament to her growth as an artist that we aren't as clear with the muses as we used to be in the days of Dead John and Style Speaking of this is some of Fortnight about Calvin? Your wife waters flowers, I wanna kill her Calvin and his wife live on a farm and eat all home grown food together etc 2
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