SmittenCake Posted April 14 Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Loroy said: I am not Israel's ambassador and I am not interested in entering into any debate in this forum. I did not justify what Israel is doing in Gaza and I don't think it is right but go off i guess This is how you yourself even know what your spewing is bullshit what a pathetic COPOUT 1 2
Loroy Posted April 14 Posted April 14 11 minutes ago, BorderBoy said: Nobody is falling for your zionist propaganda and it seems like you already chosen which side to be on so it doesn't really matter what you think, does it? This isn't the 1st aggression by Israel against Gaza and they know too damn well the civilians don't have anywhere to go once their homes are bombed. Gaza is already too crowded and once a building is bombed, the nearby buildings are also partially completely damaged. It's in Israel's intention to take it out on civilian, educational, medical buildings to cover their failure in achieving any of the goals they want to achieve by carrying out a ****ing war against civilians. Save it. The narrative that many of you are trying to push is not working. Not everyone who disagrees with you chose another side & pushing a "zionist propaganda" It's clear that you have a certain narrative and anyone who disagrees with it is considered a "Zionist" and that's pretty lame... bye
BrokenMachine Posted April 14 Posted April 14 13 minutes ago, Nova_23 said: Israel bombs Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iran and is literally an apartheid nation committing a genocide against Palestinians for the last 75 years. And then proceeds to act like a victim when it finally faces some consequences. Well, this is kinda why the USA takes them as their biggest ally since (in the own words of American authorities) both share 'similar values' 1 2
BorderBoy Posted April 14 Posted April 14 7 minutes ago, Loroy said: The narrative that many of you are trying to push is not working. Not everyone who disagrees with you chose another side & pushing a "zionist propaganda" It's clear that you have a certain narrative and anyone who disagrees with it is considered a "Zionist" and that's pretty lame... bye This doesn't refute the fact that you are indeed spreading Zionist propaganda. 5
Nova_23 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Also as people criticize Iran and it's current government, no one wants to talk about the role the CIA and the USA had in overthrowing the previous Iranian government and placing it with the one currently… All the USA wants is destabilization in that area so it can steal its resources. Why else does Israel exist? Israel exists as proxy for the USA (and Europe to an extent) to continue to destabilize the Middle East. I just don't believe Israel or the USA thought Iran would attack back but the last 6 months should be a clear demonstration that no one is scared of the USA or Israel anymore. 3 9 1
Harrier Posted April 14 Posted April 14 This is disastrous ! No one should be happy !! You think Israel has the restraint to descalate? A mess !!
Loroy Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BorderBoy said: This doesn't refute the fact that you are indeed spreading Zionist propaganda. And that brings us back to my previous post and I guess that puts us in a loop Y'all went into attack mode real fast because I mentioned official reports. I'm not interested in having a discussion with people who have nothing to discuss with, especially not in ******* ATRL Keep calling me nicknames and having some fun i guess Edited April 14 by Loroy
Cloröx Posted April 14 Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Loroy said: And that brings us back to my previous post and I guess that puts us in a loop Y'all went into attack mode really because I mentioned official reports. I'm not interested in having a discussion with people who have nothing to discuss with, especially not in ******* ATRL Keep calling me nicknames and having some fun i guess Good, now you may leave. Nobody likes you here, just go back to your main instead of this ugly dupe. 2
Nova_23 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 One other thing. Israel is a coward state that will retaliate by taking it out on the Palestinians. Whenever they start losing, they carpet bomb more thinking more destruction means they've won. Praying for the Palestinians who will be further collectively punished for this. 1 4
Harrier Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Yall need to put your lust for vengeance aside. I understand why emotionally you want to see Israel face repercussions for its actions, but I cannot see how war between Israel and Iran possibly helps Palestinians, or anyone. Use your brains. Idk why leftists need to hear this but war bad 4 4
Cloröx Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) Of course the original Nazi will support its protege Edited April 14 by Cloröx 3 1 1
BorderBoy Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Loroy said: And that brings us back to my previous post and I guess that puts us in a loop Y'all went into attack mode real fast because I mentioned official reports. I'm not interested in having a discussion with people who have nothing to discuss with, especially not in ******* ATRL Keep calling me nicknames and having some fun i guess Official reports according to who?? How dare you even mention that when you have the UN, UNSC, ICJ, WHO, and basically every organization and institution in the world saying, and with proofs, that Israel is indeed committing a genocide against civilians in Gaza and in residential places. Where the reports you're talking about came from? The Knesset? Edited April 14 by BorderBoy 5
rihannafan Posted April 14 Posted April 14 31 minutes ago, Loroy said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/21/al-shifa-hospital-gaza-hamas-israel/ There were endless reports that proved that there were tunnels inside the hospital that were used as headquarters and there are videos that show the tunnels that lead to the hospital. They literally took hostages and hid them in the hospital I am not Israel's ambassador and I am not interested in entering into any debate in this forum. I did not justify what Israel is doing in Gaza and I don't think it is right but go off i guess Words mean things. "I did not justify". You definitely tried to. Just because you say you didn't do something doesn't mean you didn't actually do it.
Nova_23 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Harrier said: Yall need to put your lust for vengeance aside. I understand why emotionally you want to see Israel face repercussions for its actions, but I cannot see how war between Israel and Iran possibly helps Palestinians, or anyone. Use your brains. Idk why leftists need to hear this but war bad Genocide and apartheid are worse. WWII happened to stop Hitler and the Nazis. this war is only "bad" if you agree that Israel is allowed to bomb its neighbors and essentially do whatever it wants to Palestinians without consequences. This would have never happened if Israel wasn't given the freedom from the Western world to essentially bomb its Arab neighbors and never have to answer to anything. This would have never happened if Israel wasn't an apartheid state committing a genocide against Palestinians while bombing its neighbors. The problem in all of this is Israel. If stopping Israel means going to war, then let there be a war. Where do I sign up to fight on the behalf of the Palestinians? And the irony in all of this is that Israel was created after WWII as a place of "peace" for Jews but all that happened was it became a place of hell for the Palestinians. If it takes WWIII for the Palestinians to finally be liberated from their occupiers and oppressors then so be it. Edited April 14 by Nova_23 4 8
Loroy Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) 12 minutes ago, rihannafan said: Words mean things. "I did not justify". You definitely tried to. Just because you say you didn't do something doesn't mean you didn't actually do it. 16 minutes ago, BorderBoy said: Official reports according to who?? How dare you even mention that when you have the UN, UNSC, ICJ, WHO, and basically every organization and institution in the world saying, and with proofs, that Israel is indeed committing a genocide against civilians in Gaza and in residential places. Where the reports you're talking about came from? The Knesset? https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf https://unwatch.org/confirmed-un-admits-palestinians-stored-rockets-in-unrwa-schools-and-highly-likely-used-school-premises-to-launch-attacks/ The fact that I mention reports from official sources does not mean that I support what is happening in Gaza or what Israel is doing, the truth has two sides. Edited April 14 by Loroy
rihannafan Posted April 14 Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Loroy said: https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf I thought you weren't defending them?
Communion Posted April 14 Posted April 14 14 minutes ago, Harrier said: Yall need to put your lust for vengeance aside. I understand why emotionally you want to see Israel face repercussions for its actions, but I cannot see how war between Israel and Iran possibly helps Palestinians, or anyone. Use your brains. Idk why leftists need to hear this but war bad 19 minutes ago, Harrier said: This is disastrous ! No one should be happy !! You think Israel has the restraint to descalate? A mess !! Posts like these are so odd in a thread where 90% of the posts are people worried because they know fallout from Israel escalating this is bad yet themselves know Iran is acting within international norms to strike a military target in retaliation to its own military spaces being attacked. And thus the responsibility is really shouldered solely on the US to not get involved like Israel is hoping for. And then the other 10% of posts - the ones where people are lustful and gleeful - are those going "I'm tired of being forced to pretend we should let Muslims live!!!"? What imaginary person are posts like this - that disingenuously both-sides reactions to this conflict - responding to? 7
Loroy Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Just now, rihannafan said: I thought you weren't defending them? and once again - the fact that I mention reports from official sources does not mean that I support what is happening in Gaza or what Israel is doing, the truth has two sides.
Cloröx Posted April 14 Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, SmittenCake said: Every accusation is confession indeed 1
Losing my ground Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 4/10/2024 at 4:37 PM, style17 said: And where should the Jews expelled from the Arab world go? US should give them a state if they're such allies. Idk why UN just decided out of nowhere to create a State where Palestinians lived, just because some book said it was their home. Imagine someone coming to live at your house and wanting half ot it because they say they're the chosen ones ??? 1
Communion Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Loroy said: The fact that I mention reports from official sources In what capacity is the Strategic Communications Centre of Excellence (not actually affiliated with NATO and funded by the military industry complex) and UN Watch (not actually affiliated with the UN and a right-wing NGO funded by conservative billionaires) "official sources"? Edited April 14 by Communion
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