shyboi Posted April 8 Author Posted April 8 5 minutes ago, barbiegrande said: The way yall lick Dua's ass is insane, and I don't even have anything against her. She's a good pop star, but she's essentially a less buzzworthy Rihanna. Writing camp'd albums, mostly an artists just there to deliver hits and be gorgeous. That's a good lane to be in. But if Rihanna had singles performing like Houd/TS, she would have been dragged through the mud. she wrote (herself) 1000 songs for her new album, she ain't a writing camp´d industry plant barbiegrande 1
dirrtydiana Posted April 8 Posted April 8 3 minutes ago, shyboi said: she wrote (herself) 1000 songs for her new album, she ain't a writing camp´d industry plant barbiegrande Ironically that makes her the Ariana grande of this decade. Her first two albums were very similar in success to Ariana's first two so Dua is currently in her Dangerous woman era 1
cuteboyzay Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Beyoncé had a 10 week #1 single on her second album. Dua Lipa has Houdini… 1 1
Lose My Breath Posted April 8 Posted April 8 3 hours ago, shyboi said: y'all always make me feel like i make no sense and im getting REAL *** tired tbh Sis, I get what you're saying, and I think I agree. I love that Dua is sticking to her guns, too, and despite the performance of the singles, she's putting it out. Dua also has worked really hard to push her performing into what it is now, and she's excellent. She'll definitely be around a long time 2
BGKC Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) Bey was still dragged to hell and back by Pop Stan's during the 4lop era. She obviously still won in the end thanks to R&B fans making it a classic, but it was those same fans that ultimately shaped the success of self titled too. Dua doesn't relate to that kind of range and support to be able to compare to the sonic shift Beyonce took post 4. Dua as far as I can tell is still aiming to please pop radio which was the complete opposite for Bey post 4 up until more recently. There's also the fact that Radical Optimism hasn't been released yet so we really don't know how much of a risk she's even taking. Like Houdini and Training Season don't sonically differ from FN all that much if I'm being honest. Edited April 8 by BGKC
Kassi Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Y'all are doing waayy too much on Dua. Every pop legend from Madonna & Mariah on down to Rihanna and Beyoncé have underperformed at least one era. It's not THAT serious. Even Taylor was rocky during Lover (relative to her other eras). The only way to find out if she's been Katy Perry'd is to let this era ride out and wait one more album cycle to see how she TRENDS. One wonky era commercial-wise because she's playing with her sound is par for the course, we need to let them breathe as artists. Plus, it could always be a delayed start. Rated R didn't truly pop off until fourth single Rude Boy and it took Irreplaceable to save B'Day after two lukewarm singles. 3
UrMom Posted April 8 Posted April 8 BEY and DUA always dance like their lives depend on it! They will always burn up the dancefloor! 1 2
shyboi Posted April 8 Author Posted April 8 59 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: Sis, I get what you're saying, and I think I agree. I love that Dua is sticking to her guns, too, and despite the performance of the singles, she's putting it out. Dua also has worked really hard to push her performing into what it is now, and she's excellent. She'll definitely be around a long time thank you cyster, i can tell you are beautiful inside and out
Relampago. Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Radical Optimism doesn't even seem to be flopping that hard. The music is still good and the success is good enough. At worst it's an underperformance so far, but that's really only because FN set the bar so high. What sets Beyonce apart from others and what gives longevity is her brand. Radical Optimism hasn't damaged Dua's brand at all, so she's fine. She's still the gorgeous, woke pop star who's improving every day.
oceans Posted April 8 Posted April 8 23 hours ago, shyboi said: y'all always make me feel like i make no sense and im getting REAL *** tired tbh
Kristie Kuwa Posted April 8 Posted April 8 How shall I put it as both, a Beyonce stan and Dua fan? Beyonce PERFORMED for 15 years straight (DC + Solo) at every chance possible before going artistic. Dua hasn't even made it to 10 years yet. She should be EVERYWHERE right now, not doing what Bey is doing as a veteran and certified legend. You have to EARN that type of behavior in order to get away with it (see Taylor)
BadHabits Posted April 9 Posted April 9 I think Radical Optimism will be 1/3 like Future Nostalgia and the rest will be the evolution to her next sound.
CottageHore Posted April 9 Posted April 9 Some of you in here have such severe brain rot. Is it this hard for y'all to engage with a comparison? Is Dua on Bey's level? No. That's not what OP said. She seems to be moving in a similar way with similar intentions and artistic integrity like Bey has been. That's all that's being said and it's true, I fear. Dua will be making quality pop music in 10 years whether she gets another smash or not. She's a pop genius, I fear
CottageHore Posted April 9 Posted April 9 4 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said: How shall I put it as both, a Beyonce stan and Dua fan? Beyonce PERFORMED for 15 years straight (DC + Solo) at every chance possible before going artistic. Dua hasn't even made it to 10 years yet. She should be EVERYWHERE right now, not doing what Bey is doing as a veteran and certified legend. You have to EARN that type of behavior in order to get away with it (see Taylor) A person has to "earn" making music for the love of it instead of obsessing over chart positions and getting another hit? When was the last time y'all logged off?
Soda Pop Queen Posted April 9 Posted April 9 On 4/7/2024 at 4:21 PM, chaklux said: Beyoncé already has a solidified fanbase by the time she released 4. She already has destiny child, DIL, B'day and IASF commercial eras, about 14 yrs of commercial eras ( solo plus group) coupled with the fact that she was already known as a badass performer by then. At best , she would have been a legacy act/icon like Usher et al and has a touring/ performance to rely on. I love Dua and really rooting for her. It's good for artists to evolve , but it's always risky to take big risks when you don't have a solid fanbase yet. I hope all these works out well. All of this. It's not really a fair comparison to Dua because Beyoncé had far more professional experience and had built up a lot of status with the public and her label by the time she was Dua's age of 28. An album like 4 can only come after so much experience and fine tuning your craft. She started having the leeway to do whatever she wanted to do because she paid the cost to be the boss. I very much doubt Dua is arriving at that point with Radical Optimism, which is only the 3rd album of her career despite her already clocking almost 10 years. That's not very prolific when you're an artist entirely raised in the short attention span of the streaming age. Compare that to a streaming peer like Ariana who only debuted a couple years before her but has over twice as many albums... but then again, Dua didn't really hit oustide the UK until 2017. 1
bjorn Posted April 9 Posted April 9 Let's insert *any pop girl* in the title Is Zara Larson playing the long game?
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