PrettyHurts Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Just now, 45seconds said: Again. And again. We have said how she compares against Alicia and whoever. Comparing her to them does nothing but stroke the hive's ego. As stans, compare her album against who is CURRENTLY charting if she is also CURRENTLY charting. Why is that so hard to do? Well no, comparing her to her actual peers puts her career and success into its proper context. You can't just remove her history because she's still relevant. Expecting similar numbers to an artist from a completely different generation in a different stage of their career is kind of pointless. 8 1 2
jjmed59 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) 2 most flopped needs to take a backseat and give it up. it has nowhere near the accessibility and hit potential that godyguard has. bey's team needs to focus on THAT song the most. we need heavy autoplay, playlisting, and radio now Edited April 3 by jjmed59
PrudenceHCharmed Posted April 3 Posted April 3 23 minutes ago, 45seconds said: Again. And again. We have said how she compares against Alicia and whoever. Comparing her to them does nothing but stroke the hive's ego. As stans, compare her album against who is CURRENTLY charting if she is also CURRENTLY charting. Why is that so hard to do? Well, if you're looking for an answer, she has yet to send a second single to radio, there's no music videos promo or whatsoever plus no song had gone viral on TikTok yet, happy?
BnPac Posted April 3 Posted April 3 35 minutes ago, Kool_Aid_King said: kinda like Renaissance. Hmmm sis, I disagree. Renaissance was clear cut, the album had two hits first week. Alien Superstar was smashing with absolutely zero push and Cuff It was also doing much better than the other tracks albeit with a little push which made it chart higher than AS on Hot 100. Bodyguard might reveal itself later.
45seconds Posted April 3 Posted April 3 48 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said: Well no, comparing her to her actual peers puts her career and success into its proper context. You can't just remove her history because she's still relevant. Expecting similar numbers to an artist from a completely different generation in a different stage of their career is kind of pointless. And so is comparing her to Alicia. We have discussed those comparisons 100 different times in a 100 different ways. My point is we celebrate her longevity and how current she is, so now let's focus on the current competition and see how she stacks and the possibilities. 1
Easymoney Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, 45seconds said: Again. And again. We have said how she compares against Alicia and whoever. Comparing her to them does nothing but stroke the hive's ego. As stans, compare her album against who is CURRENTLY charting if she is also CURRENTLY charting. Why is that so hard to do? comparing her to them actually makes sense cause it's about longevity in the end and let's not act like people didn't use Alicia, Justin, Usher etc against beyonce for years. Decades even. She survived the test of time which for a black woman in her 40s is hard to do in the industry. We can also argue that beyonce prime ended after IASF…..16 years ago. She's now competing with artists that were probably in middle school when single ladies came out hell even the artists who came at the end of the 2000s like Gaga, Katy etc. beyonce outlasted them as well and people used Gaga against her for awhile too in comparison to the artists of today(Ariana, olivia, Sza etc) there's only maybe a few women bigger than beyonce right now….Taylor being the obvious one that is a testament to beyonce, who's close to 30 years in and doing these kind of numbers. For her to even be in maybe the 4-9 range of major female artists STILL is a pretty big deal especially since she's experimenting with a genre she never did before and a huge amount of country fans and White America are indifference to her anyway this is like Taylor swift making a rap album at 44 years old and still killing the streaming/sales. Edited April 3 by Easymoney 1
Timber Posted April 3 Posted April 3 3 hours ago, Kool_Aid_King said: The problem with this album is there are SO many possible single choices, kinda like Renaissance. There is no obvious choice for 2nd single cause Bodyguard, Ya Ya, Tyrant, II Most Wanted & Levii's Jeans could all do very well. With Renaissance, it was really just Cuff It & Alien Superstar (on release). AHAP went viral and the rest is history. I hope she puts an effort to pushing all those songs when the time is right, heck even River Dance can make a mark. One of my faves is Alligator Tears but I don't think many other people like it like I do. 2
PopFan1996 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) 5 hours ago, mrpartyrocker said: Y'all care way too much about numbers especially when you speak about someone like Beyonce. Enjoy the music people This topic is called 'charts and sales' for a reason. If you want music talk go to the 'music' topic not here. Edited April 3 by PopFan1996 2
Monster Queen Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) Stop being bitter and acting this is bad. Just stupid atp. Maybe this is not becoming a streaming monster in the long term but this is still a very great number, especially for an industry veteran. Imagine you're 42 and you're a bigger commercial power than artists like Ariana or Billie, having a #1 single and 400k debut with an upcoming huge tour which will be another huge success as well I stan Taylor but I will be very happy if Taylor can maintain this level of success when she is 42. Edited April 3 by Monster Queen 5 1 1
ChrisTheLoner Posted April 3 Posted April 3 This is doing amazing and its very well deserved, she ATE with this masterpiece
Lose My Breath Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Can someone explain why the short interludes have any streams? Like how are they calculated?
SoundsandSongs Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lovett said: 37,643,816 for day 5. Compared to Reneigh: Day 1: 43,370,124 Day 2: 30,509,220 Day 3: 20,984,704 Day 4: 21,621,925 Day 5: 20,477,713 CC is almost doubling Reneigh streams, yet OBHs claim it's bombing or underperforming. Edited April 3 by SoundsandSongs 2
Monster Queen Posted April 3 Posted April 3 36 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: Can someone explain why the short interludes have any streams? Like how are they calculated? We don't know Apparently they shouldn't have any streams cause it's too short according to Spotify's rule.But if you check out any other short interludes you will find out they also have a few streams - nobody knows how it works 1
SoundsandSongs Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Monster Queen said: We don't know Apparently they shouldn't have any streams cause it's too short according to Spotify's rule.But if you check out any other short interludes you will find out they also have a few streams - nobody knows how it works It seems like the interludes' numbers are divided massively. Not sure by how much but the short interludes are almost neligible numbers in the big picture
Lose My Breath Posted April 3 Posted April 3 30 minutes ago, SoundsandSongs said: It seems like the interludes' numbers are divided massively. Not sure by how much but the short interludes are almost neligible numbers in the big picture I wondered if they had to equal to a certain amount of time, and it counts as one stream after so many seconds of play? So weird lol
BrandNewBrandon Posted April 3 Posted April 3 13 hours ago, Harrier said: To be fair with these comparisons, CC is arguably benefiting from the success of Renaissance + Tour. An album's first week hype and numbers are very influenced by the previous era (think Adele 21 - 25). B built up her streaming power with Rennaisance and now CC is reaping the benefits It feels unfair to denigrate Rennaisance when it had a different job to do, which imo was establishing B as an artist with gen z and in the streaming era The true test for this album will come in staying power. You're right. This album is the result of the previous era and its tour. And this current era will make or break the next one, figuratively speaking.
SoundsandSongs Posted April 4 Posted April 4 The main issue I see with Bey's streams being compared to newer artists is double standards - let's be real if Justin T, Pink, Britney, Xtina, Alicia and Jlo got these numbers y'all would be praising them to the ends of the earth. But when it comes to Bey people try to mental gymnastics to try make her look less successful. Y'all try to group her with Gaga and Katy as peers while agreeing Justin Timberlake is Britney's peer despite debuting the exact same time as Beyonce. So many people have been calling Beyonce streaming poison and saying Pink outlasted her, Shakira is a bigger streaming giant, Gaga is bigger etc. - but when you look at the stats she's the 6th most streamed female ever by lead credits (excluding DC) and 7th most streamed female artist by total credits (excluding DC). Gaga, Katy, Pink and Shakira etc. are not even top 10. There's clear double standards when it comes to Bey, even when she succeeds y'all find a new way to bring her down.
PopFan1996 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Monster Queen said: We don't know Apparently they shouldn't have any streams cause it's too short according to Spotify's rule.But if you check out any other short interludes you will find out they also have a few streams - nobody knows how it works It shouldn't have streams technically but Spotify's counter is not perfect so it still counts some streams. Very little perhaps that it won't do much impact
Lose My Breath Posted April 4 Posted April 4 24 minutes ago, Jude said: 38M? That's an amazing hold. Especially considering she was doing like 10-12 million daily prior to Texas
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