Reginald Posted March 23 Posted March 23 **** the Republican party Vote for Dems this November so we can end this culture war. No more Christofascist influence in our government 7 1
Archetype Posted March 23 Posted March 23 5 hours ago, Domination said: Why does a US embassy in a foreign country need to be waving a pride flag? A ban seems unnecessary but is such a non-issue. They don't need to, but they *should*, especially in countries that persecute queer people. It has absolutely nothing to do with this spending bill and yet they're trying to see how far they can push him.
Onyxmage Posted March 23 Posted March 23 So attacking Biden instead of the Republicans who actually made this demand or shut down the Government. Thank god this forum isnt open to the public. We dont need people seeing how stupid LGBT people really are when it comes to politics. 4 5
Sergi91 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 5 hours ago, Tusk said: This is what is included in the spending bill but ya'll rather have flags. The bill is also expected to include 12,000 new special immigrant visas for Afghan allies and a one-year extension of international HIV/AIDS prevention efforts. Haters will say:
GhostBox Posted March 23 Posted March 23 The fact Dems got the gop to get rid of all the other anti gay things except this is an accomplishment🤷 this is a great thread about this. 1
Eat The Acid Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Wait isn't this one of @GhostBox reasons of why he's so different to Trump?? 3 1
ZeroSuitBritney Posted March 23 Posted March 23 11 hours ago, Reginald said: **** the Republican party Vote for Dems this November so we can end this culture war. No more Christofascist influence in our government Braindead.
Gaia Posted March 23 Posted March 23 12 hours ago, byzantium said: The blue cult told me that I needed to support Biden to protect our rights. Well, he has so far been perfectly fine with the genocide of Muslims and banning the flying of the pride flag. It's pretty clear that unless you are a wealthy straight cis white man, he will happily compromise your rights. In what way does banning pride flags at US embassies take away or compromise ANY of your rights 2 1
byzantium Posted March 23 Posted March 23 33 minutes ago, Gaia said: In what way does banning pride flags at US embassies take away or compromise ANY of your rights Thank you Gaia for your "thoughtful" contribution to this thread. Interesting how you skipped over genocide and went straight to the second point. And if you can't figure out how this signals how Biden is perfectly fine with compromising with the republican nut jobs in congress then i don't know what to tell you. 2 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted March 23 ATRL Moderator Posted March 23 This isn't a big deal in isolation. However, when you add it on top of the collective silence of the Democrats as trans people are being targeted with such fervor... it's just a slap in the face. Again, the flag really doesn't matter, but their willingness to give up the pride flag so easily is just quite a symbolic moment for how they have treated and stood up for us as the GOP targets us with legislation to criminalize our existence. 4 3
Sannie Posted March 24 Posted March 24 (edited) I just found out that Republicans included FORTY (40) anti-LGBT riders in the budget bill and Democrats, who are in the minority, pushed back and had THIRTY NINE (39) removed, only conceding on the ONE (1) about flags in foreign countries. This means that the Democrats were in lock-step with one another about trans issues or overall LGBT issues in order to get these riders taken off. The one they compromised on was the one that literally meant nothing and will not hurt any LGBT Americans. It was nothing more than a symbolic gesture. They played the Republicans yet again. Leftists once again completely misrepresenting the facts to **** all over Democrats. 5 hours ago, Bloo said: This isn't a big deal in isolation. However, when you add it on top of the collective silence of the Democrats as trans people are being targeted with such fervor... it's just a slap in the face. Again, the flag really doesn't matter, but their willingness to give up the pride flag so easily is just quite a symbolic moment for how they have treated and stood up for us as the GOP targets us with legislation to criminalize our existence. Oop, turns out Republicans had 40 anti-LGBT provisions/riders in the budget, including many that targeted the trans community specifically. The Democrats did not cave on a single trans issue and instead played Republicans and conceded on just one, a fake, symbolic "win" over flags in foreign countries. They quite literally did the opposite of what you are claiming here. Anyone who thinks Dems should have shut the country down over flags is not living in the real world and wants real people to suffer. Edited March 24 by Sannie 4 1
Communion Posted March 24 Posted March 24 8 minutes ago, Sannie said: The Democrats did not cave on a single trans issue Wait so they passed single payer healthcare and enshrined access to gender affirming care as a right?
Eat The Acid Posted March 24 Posted March 24 44 minutes ago, Sannie said: I just found out that Republicans included FORTY (40) anti-LGBT riders in the budget bill and Democrats, who are in the minority, pushed back and had THIRTY NINE (39) removed, only conceding on the ONE (1) about flags in foreign countries. This means that the Democrats were in lock-step with one another about trans issues or overall LGBT issues in order to get these riders taken off. The one they compromised on was the one that literally meant nothing and will not hurt any LGBT Americans. It was nothing more than a symbolic gesture. They played the Republicans yet again. Leftists once again completely misrepresenting the facts to **** all over Democrats. Oop, turns out Republicans had 40 anti-LGBT provisions/riders in the budget, including many that targeted the trans community specifically. The Democrats did not cave on a single trans issue and instead played Republicans and conceded on just one, a fake, symbolic "win" over flags in foreign countries. They quite literally did the opposite of what you are claiming here. Anyone who thinks Dems should have shut the country down over flags is not living in the real world and wants real people to suffer. Sis nobody said they should shut down a country over a flag. In fact all leftists have been crying out for DECADES that identity politics is superficial and useless. However - liberals eat up identity politics and shove flags, rainbows and other superficial facets down peoples throats when they're used as cover ups for evils such as …. Let's say genocide ….. big pharma…. Inaccessible healthcare and other actually IMPORTANT issues that Republicans and Democrats agree on. However - now that the flag is removed what have we got? Die on the hill of the flag … great … now that it's gone can we now talk about how democrats and republicans are politically - don't really differ OTHER than identity politics. 2 2
loveisdead9582 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 @Ryan Can we start having some sort of consequence for users who consistently do not give the whole truth/story? This particular post for instance comparing the Trump admin saying they wanted to take them down vs the Biden Admin agreeing in order to gain many other beneficial things for people? It's the same users who post some sort of skewed retelling of events and it's really making things quite stale. 2 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted March 24 ATRL Moderator Posted March 24 35 minutes ago, loveisdead9582 said: @Ryan Can we start having some sort of consequence for users who consistently do not give the whole truth/story? This particular post for instance comparing the Trump admin saying they wanted to take them down vs the Biden Admin agreeing in order to gain many other beneficial things for people? It's the same users who post some sort of skewed retelling of events and it's really making things quite stale. Threads that post misleading content are already warned via the disruptive category. This is not the same, however, as people posting content that expresses opinions that differ from yours. 1
Reginald Posted March 25 Posted March 25 On 3/23/2024 at 10:34 AM, ZeroSuitBritney said: Braindead. Everything you have contributed to this site is obvious bait, I am shocked you are not banned. I will never give you the response you are fishing for, so leave me alone. Stop quoting me. Weirdo. 1 1
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