EtherealCat Posted March 17 Posted March 17 i take it they arent saying no because they want homeless people to be given all the empty houses and airbnbs?
Gorjesspazze9 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Why? How does a homeless shelter affect the lives of these working class people….
PrettyHurts Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Lovett said: Surely there must be more context here because... wtf?? i live in nyc (brooklyn specifically) and there are always protests against opening homeless shelters sad but people do not want them near them Edited March 17 by PrettyHurts 1
Lovett Posted March 17 Posted March 17 1 minute ago, PrettyHurts said: i live in nyc (brooklyn specifically) and there are always protests against opening homeless shelters sad but people do not want them near them People are so awful and heartless.
getBusy Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I live right next to one of these in BK (literally the building next to mine) and it’s perfectly fine. These people are tripping.
perfect blue Posted March 17 Posted March 17 This will trigger a lot of people. Homeless people absolutely deserve the right to shelter but be fuckin honest: they’re an eyesore and they bring crime to the neighborhoods they congregate in. I too would have demonized these protesters in the past before a tent city sprung up last summer in the area that I live in. Since then the area is trashed with dirty needles and litter, there are constant muggings and fights, and people no longer feel safe taking their dogs or children for walks. The neighborhood is ruined. 5 5 7
Communion Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 16 minutes ago, Perfect Blue said: This will trigger a lot of people. Homeless people absolutely deserve the right to shelter but be fuckin honest: they’re an eyesore and they bring crime to the neighborhoods they congregate in. I too would have demonized these protesters in the past before a tent city sprung up last summer in the area that I live in. Since then the area is trashed with dirty needles and litter, there are constant muggings and fights, and people no longer feel safe taking their dogs or children for walks. The neighborhood is ruined. ...a homeless shelter literally prevents "a tent city" from appearing because... they're inside, in the shelter... that you don't want built? Genuinely wild to know how some of you would kill a poor person if given the chance the way you speak of the homeless. 2
perfect blue Posted March 17 Posted March 17 8 minutes ago, Communion said: ...a homeless shelter literally prevents "a tent city" from appearing because... they're inside, in the shelter... that you don't want built? Genuinely wild to know how some of you would kill a poor person if given the chance the way you speak of the homeless. There’s a large shelter nearby that functioned as a magnet drawing them all here from cities nearby. The people in tents have active addictions and refuse to follow shelter rules. Shut up with that annoying ass histrionic shrieking. 3 4 3
Princess Aurora Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I don't understand the point. Why wouldn't they want shelters for the homeless?
I Am Music Posted March 17 Posted March 17 This country is losing all empathy and economical understanding by the minute. This is what both parties join forces over?? mutual disgust of the homeless??.
Communion Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, Perfect Blue said: There’s a large shelter nearby that functioned as a magnet drawing them all here from cities nearby. So you're against building a shelter because your area requires multiple shelters given its huge homeless population and you think... the homeless are at fault?
I Am Music Posted March 17 Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, Communion said: So you're against building a shelter because your area requires multiple shelters given its huge homeless population and you think... the homeless are at fault? I feel like at this point people just want them on rikers cause if you don’t want them in shelters because it could be by your area and you don’t want them on the streets… then where do you want them?. They’re still homeless and homelessness is rising in this country. 1 5
Gottasadae Posted March 18 Posted March 18 (edited) Isn't Adams created shelter for homeless a few months ago in some vacant hotel in Manhattan and it became a drug cartel with needles on sidewalks and continuous violent fights. He's a fkn fool, (like de Blasio was during his term), doing absolutely nothing good for the city. People are afraid of drugs trafficking and violence, plus Bensonhurst (Bay Parkway area) is heavily populated by asians and asian hate crime in NYC is high, so I can't blame them, they have a rights to protest, especially if they starting to feel unsafe Edited March 18 by Gottasadae 1
ClashAndBurn Posted March 18 Posted March 18 3 hours ago, Perfect Blue said: This will trigger a lot of people. Homeless people absolutely deserve the right to shelter but be fuckin honest: they’re an eyesore and they bring crime to the neighborhoods they congregate in. I too would have demonized these protesters in the past before a tent city sprung up last summer in the area that I live in. Since then the area is trashed with dirty needles and litter, there are constant muggings and fights, and people no longer feel safe taking their dogs or children for walks. The neighborhood is ruined. Not a surprise to see that @GhostBox cosigned this abominably evil take.
Cesar Posted March 18 Posted March 18 5 hours ago, getBusy said: I live right next to one of these in BK (literally the building next to mine) and it’s perfectly fine. These people are tripping. same, they are literally harmless and if anything the staff that works on the building actually help clean the area around aswell
Into The Void Posted March 18 Posted March 18 I honestly don't even know where a homeless shelter is near me but I live in the suburbs. I suppose they are near Downtown
Specter Posted March 18 Posted March 18 8 hours ago, Perfect Blue said: This will trigger a lot of people. Homeless people absolutely deserve the right to shelter but be fuckin honest: they’re an eyesore and they bring crime to the neighborhoods they congregate in. I too would have demonized these protesters in the past before a tent city sprung up last summer in the area that I live in. Since then the area is trashed with dirty needles and litter, there are constant muggings and fights, and people no longer feel safe taking their dogs or children for walks. The neighborhood is ruined. Lol some of you are literal movie villains from 1950 cinema. Wild. 1
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted March 18 ATRL Administrator Posted March 18 I definitely feel like more context is needed. As someone who actually worked for the government and was on a task force for something similar to this, the general anger from the public in that situation was while the shelter was a great way to prevent tent cities and keep people off the street, during the day the residents were required to go somewhere else. They weren’t allowed back in until after like 5 PM. So the concern was what will some of them do? Part of governing is dealing with the need of those like the unhoused, while also balancing the concerns of the residents whose neighborhoods are the sites of such assistance. It’s a easy to sit online and have an opinion about how something should be implemented when it literally doesn’t affect you and you have no experience in dealing with the on-the-ground ramifications of governing. There are so many vacant and unfinished development properties in these boroughs that could be converted to temporary housing to help those in need. I wish the local government would actually do something about it. 9 2
Domination Posted March 18 Posted March 18 6 minutes ago, Ryan said: Part of governing is dealing with the need of those like the unhoused, while also balancing the concerns of the residents whose neighborhoods are the sites of such assistance. It’s a easy to sit online and have an opinion about how something should be implemented when it literally doesn’t affect you and you have no experience in dealing with the on-the-ground ramifications of governing.
I Am Music Posted March 18 Posted March 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ryan said: I definitely feel like more context is needed. As someone who actually worked for the government and was on a task force for something similar to this, the general anger from the public in that situation was while the shelter was a great way to prevent tent cities and keep people off the street, during the day the residents were required to go somewhere else. They weren’t allowed back in until after like 5 PM. So the concern was what will some of them do? Part of governing is dealing with the need of those like the unhoused, while also balancing the concerns of the residents whose neighborhoods are the sites of such assistance. It’s a easy to sit online and have an opinion about how something should be implemented when it literally doesn’t affect you and you have no experience in dealing with the on-the-ground ramifications of governing. There are so many vacant and unfinished development properties in these boroughs that could be converted to temporary housing to help those in need. I wish the local government would actually do something about it. I agree with this for the most part but I think adding an educational context instead of talking down to people is a more constructive effort. I’m glad you gained the experience in working in government and just like how it’s easy for people who sit online making critiques without the full knowledge of what it takes to balance both the homeless and the comfort of all citizens it’s also just as easy to boast about one’s experience without offering advice on how to learn more to be more educated. You said yourself how you wish the local government did something about using those vacant homes but they’re not so while it is a complex issue the local government is partly to blame. There’s been an increase all across this country trying to criminalize being homeless yet leaving vacant homes empty and just want to shift them around. Vegas is especially bad at this and people who do volunteer work who might not know the ins and outs of what it takes to govern are frustrated and would like to know what more can be done. I think it would be mutually beneficial to help each other understand both sides of the aisle instead of needlessly throwing daggers. Everyone wants a solution to this problem and that’s the main focus. How can the citizens be comfortable while also organizing a way for the unhoused to be safe and valued. Edited March 18 by I Am Music
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