wanderlust Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) a little OT but It's really ****** up to see how little attention is paid to the deep-seated misogyny in the music world. Women often get treated as if they're disposable, while men seem to get a free pass on their talent. Instead of celebrating female artists for their skills, the first thing people question is whether they even deserve their success. Meanwhile, male artists are just automatically assumed to be talented, regardless of whether they can sing or write songs. Just listen to any tv segment that's about a specific female artist and compare it to how they talk about the men.. It's such a frustrating double standard, and it's crazy that more people aren't talking about it. Edited March 14 by wanderlust 1
Tylerbv Posted March 14 Posted March 14 49 minutes ago, zach said: SHE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT You haven't even heard the ******* albums yet, what the **** do you have to critique??? YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW IT ******* SOUNDS TO KNOW IF IT FITS THE ALBUM OR NOT??? I can’t tell if you’re trolling, but if the music fits a 30 second MS Paint not even Word Art album cover, she should probably reconsider her career 1
glitch Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Fans: Lol her cover art looks kinda lazy, as if she made it in Microsoft Paint in about 5 minutes Charli: You have no right to say my face and body should be on my album cover 5 6
IBeMe Posted March 14 Posted March 14 yes and no. It does feel like you are commodifying your body by doing that I guess BUT the reality is...9 times out of 10 people just want to see their favs on the music they own because they want to feel connected. Humans are some of the most visually stimulated creatures ever. We bond so much just through looking at each other...so seeing a photo of the person you idolize on the cover is often times preferred simply for that reason. I think she is ignoring the very basic biological / instinctual aspect of it all and going straight for societal issues when this is a clearly like at least 70% not that what she thinks it is. 1 1
Velvet Night Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) Although she has a point about women’s bodies (especially female pop artists) being treated as commodity, this really isn’t the case here. The album cover is uncreative and ugly, and it’s not misogynistic to not like it. There’re definitely a way to make a beautiful album cover without using glamour shots of the artist. I haven't seen anybody say the cover should have been a sexualised image of Charli herself. Edited March 14 by Velvet Night
ALA Posted March 14 Posted March 14 That can be true and it also can be true that her cover art is **** and I say this as a huge fan of her music, like c'mon 1
AMIT Posted March 14 Posted March 14 41 minutes ago, Tropical said: Do you not see the hypocrisy and actual deep seated misogyny in this comment? P.s. as I've said many times before, Charli is in an era called "brat" and saying things to p*ss of flakey fake lib Americans who pretend to uphold valiant ideals but always expose themselves time and time again. you say this as if Charli is some radical political figure she's a pick me to the highest degree and low key a bird herself, be serious 2
Uncatena Posted March 14 Posted March 14 she is right but the gays who criticize every single pop girl on twitter day in and out feel very called out by this and are deflecting HARD. the usual spiel. 2
Bhabylon Posted March 14 Posted March 14 She has a point, but that’s not the reason why people are saying the Ari and Dua album covers are horrid
Jay07 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 There are tons of album covers that are iconic and memorable without featuring the artist at all. She's insufferable. 2
Moonlight Nation Posted March 14 Posted March 14 39 minutes ago, wanderlust said: a little OT but It's really ****** up to see how little attention is paid to the deep-seated misogyny in the music world. Women often get treated as if they're disposable, while men seem to get a free pass on their talent. Instead of celebrating female artists for their skills, the first thing people question is whether they even deserve their success. Meanwhile, male artists are just automatically assumed to be talented, regardless of whether they can sing or write songs. Just listen to any tv segment that's about a specific female artist and compare it to how they talk about the men.. It's such a frustrating double standard, and it's crazy that more people aren't talking about it. Where have you been in the past decade? People have been constantly talking and bringing about discourse on this matter, with countless mainstream thinkpieces calling out the unfair treatment women in music suffered by the media and society at large, the poptimism movement shifting the perception of pop albums and songs by allowing them to be taken seriously and openly appreciated for their merits (no longer under the guise of 'guilty pleasure'), attention always being brought whenever women are underrepresented in festivals, award show nominations and wins (see the massive backlash to the 2018 Grammys and the comments from then-chairman Neil Portnow undermining female artists that year). I'm not saying things have completely improved - there's still a long road to go, especially behind the scenes. But your rant feels beyond outdated and out-of-place in 2024. There are definitely groups which still act like this - elitist boomers and misogynists, but others whose opinions were previously shunned and ignored are now allowed to share their perspectives in mainstream outlets, publicly call out double standards and bigotry, as well as help shape the narrative when it comes to the credibility and respect of artists across the board. Not to mention the impact social media has had with stanbases being extremely protective of their favourite artists (for better or worse). Something like "WAP" had as many detractors as fierce supporters, and in the end critic institutions were all proudly highlighting it as one of the best songs of the year - a hypersexual humouristic rap song by two black women. In fact, we've reached the point where a non-issue like Charli's recent comment is being given weight and consideration of whether she could be making a point, even though @IBeMe perfectly highlighted why people typically prefer seeing the artist's face on the album cover. And I actually really like "brat" 's cover as it is, since it has a very fun chaotic vibe to it in its 'cheap', low resolution quality. Kinda sucks, really, because these non-issues end up taking over discourse from more important topics (like Rina Sawayama's situation with her masters that Charli seemingly got in disagreement over because of her connection with one of the men who owns them). 2 1
Draper. Posted March 14 Posted March 14 2 hours ago, RedCarpet said: wasnt she almost naked on her last album cover? She’s not saying she’s against it, just that it’s her choice to do it and gays should stop bitching about faceless covers. 1
State of Grace. Posted March 14 Posted March 14 She's lucky I love her music because wow she's just so insufferable 1
LustSpell Posted March 14 Posted March 14 She is so unbelievably hypocritical and ANNOYING. Man she makes bops but I bet she would be entirely AWFUL to be around 1
If U Seek Amy Posted March 14 Posted March 14 People are just asking you to not be lazy and actually create an artistic cover They aren't demanding your body and require it involved. Someone is just mad they rightfully got called out and are deflecting 1
Burn Posted March 14 Posted March 14 She’s right and a forum full of men saying she’s wrong and should shut up and show her body are proving her point. Sick.
Jjang Posted March 14 Posted March 14 I agree with her statement, actually. Yeah, she’s also insufferable. Both things can be true.
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