Wonderland Posted May 4 Posted May 4 I think what I find irritating is that she talks about having written 100 songs for this album and then this ends up being the final product. Personally, I like a lot of the tracks. But it doesn't really feel like there's much marketability to any of them this time around. Even the singles this era have felt like they don't quite meet the current moment in pop. 2
Cloudy Posted May 4 Posted May 4 3 minutes ago, Spark said: Why do some of y'all want her to rush release a fourth album? How is that going to help her career? It never works, and if anything it just dampens your legacy which in turn makes you look cheap. She should release a few more singles from this album, maybe do a re-release and a couple of collabs with DJs and tour it early to summer 2025. This is all while writing another album while on tour or in the interim before it starts. She can comeback early 2026 with a new album. Exactly. The thing is she cannot take another 4 years dor another mid project
perpetual novice Posted May 4 Posted May 4 4 minutes ago, Cain said: Sweetener had a smash and was her most acclaimed work at that time This is… her Witness The fan reaction to Sweetener was super mixed and that's why she bounced back with TU, N. Dua just needs to come back with a more accessible sound and she's fine.
halcyonday Posted May 4 Posted May 4 1 minute ago, perpetual novice said: The fan reaction to Sweetener was super mixed and that's why she bounced back with TU, N. Dua just needs to come back with a more accessible sound and she's fine. i mean... not exactly... the fans loved breathin and she sabotaged it cuz she wanted to release tun and 7 rings which focused hard on things happening to her at that time in life...
popmusic Posted May 4 Posted May 4 41 minutes ago, curiousladybug said: Can you elaborate on this? Yesterday real-time counter 'froze' for ~2 hours. Sometimes it happens but usually it doesn't affect final results. This time number of streams from real-time data and daily charts was quite big (It affected all tracks, not just Dua's album). But if some of you wants to use as an excuse of poor numbers - no, this is just pure flop, her management should be fired asap and she needs to change label 1 3
_Fey Posted May 4 Posted May 4 (edited) Also yes, she needs bigger and better red carpet moments. Any look she has had since the red hair has only been decent because she's naturally attractive. None of them have truly been serves. Dua needs to do way better on that front because her being a hot fashion icon is a huge part of her draw. Edited May 4 by _Fey 3
TayDuaStan Posted May 4 Posted May 4 4 minutes ago, Spark said: Why do some of y'all want her to rush release a fourth album? How is that going to help her career? It never works, and if anything it just dampens your legacy which in turn makes you look cheap. She should release a few more singles from this album, maybe do a re-release and a couple of collabs with DJs and tour it early to summer 2025. This is all while writing another album while on tour or in the interim before it starts. She can comeback early 2026 with a new album. Because that type of rollout isn't working anymore. Pop girls are dropping music at a much faster pace. Look at Olivia, Miley, Taylor, Ariana, Charli. All of them released multiple projects in the time Dua took to release 1. You stay relevant by feeding fans with new music. Post album singles won't do anything anymore so it's useless to push singles from this. Maybe maybe with a collab (with A lists) but that's it
Cain Posted May 4 Posted May 4 2 minutes ago, _Fey said: Also yes, she needs bigger and better red carpet moments. Any look she has had since the red hair has only been decent because she's naturally attractive. None of them have truly been serves. Dua needs to do way better on that front because her being a hot fashion icon is a huge part of her draw. She truly went autopilot this era
Cain Posted May 4 Posted May 4 1 minute ago, scottstreet said: here they go again, twitter get out of our house!! Wait no it's true FAKE NUMBERS! REAL NUMBERS COMING ON SUNDAY! SPOTIFY SABOTAGE! Spread the word ladies 5
Starkboy Posted May 4 Posted May 4 the Witness comparison makes no sense cause back then people HATED Katy. Like they wanted her to be over so much. there's no hate train for Dua at all. she will bounce back as soon as her team gets it together and she releases a smash. going for a 2026 release with no hit sounds risky. I think summer/fall 2025 sounds fine. but yeah she definitely needs to record a couple of collabs before. I love this album and it's gonna stay in rotation for a while but I really don't see any hit coming from this. 2
ahauntingnearu Posted May 4 Posted May 4 All the chart talk is taking the fun out of the album for me Ik it's kinda unavoidable but I wish people didn't care so much. Dua probably doesn't? She seems genuinely happy with and proud of this album and I KNOW the tour will do well... I'm.not too concerned if this album underperforms. That said, I do agree there's little hope now; it's kinda DOA. I was thinking she drops a deluxe when tour comes around but.i wouldn't be shocked if her team pivots that since outtakes in a similar vibe won't do anything new to revitalize the era. I really don't know what her next steps are tbh But MINE are to keep boppin 6
_Fey Posted May 4 Posted May 4 4 minutes ago, scottstreet said: here they go again, twitter get out of our house!! Jdjdjd these Twitter accounts set her up so much this era. Her numbers need to be doubled for them even start looking okay, and fixing a glitch isn't going to do that. 1 1
Cain Posted May 4 Posted May 4 3 minutes ago, Starkboy said: the Witness comparison makes no sense cause back then people HATED Katy. Like they wanted her to be over so much. there's no hate train for Dua at all. she will bounce back as soon as her team gets it together and she releases a smash. going for a 2026 release with no hit sounds risky. I think summer/fall 2025 sounds fine. but yeah she definitely needs to record a couple of collabs before. I love this album and it's gonna stay in rotation for a while but I really don't see any hit coming from this. The thing is they have SAID they wanted this era to last for years, meaning they probably already booked an entire 2025 tour, prepared a rerelease, picked the singles etc I don't see them diverting
Cain Posted May 4 Posted May 4 Just now, _Fey said: Jdjdjd these Twitter accounts set her up so much this era. Her numbers need to be doubled for them even start looking okay, and fixing a glitch isn't going to do that. The numbers being doubled would get us to… FN numbers 1 1
KingWitch Posted May 4 Posted May 4 All the songs on the album are great except for the singles released so far, which are just good for me 1
Erreur2 La Nature Posted May 4 Posted May 4 End Of An Era, French Exit and Falling Forever are such BOPS It's a perfect summer album
Starkboy Posted May 4 Posted May 4 3 minutes ago, Cain said: The thing is they have SAID they wanted this era to last for years, meaning they probably already booked an entire 2025 tour, prepared a rerelease, picked the singles etc I don't see them diverting no worries, they sent the good sis back in the studio as we speak
ahauntingnearu Posted May 4 Posted May 4 19 minutes ago, Marla Singer said: Falling Forever could have been brilliant but it just falls short, and I can't put my finger on exactly why. It's still really good but it just sounds like a demo that needed more work. The rest of the album is forgettable, but I do appreciate her keeping it short so it didn't feel like torture to listen to. It's because it goes no where, like all you need to listen to is the first chorus. Same with every single song -- no growth production-wise or vocally. Her (and team's) absolute refusal to add in (notable) additional production or vocals REALLY hurt the album. The songs at core are all good, but I don't see the effort and constant tweaking she was talking about. 1 2
perfectillusion204 Posted May 4 Posted May 4 The album should've been released in February tbh, around the time Training Season was released. 1
_Fey Posted May 4 Posted May 4 1 minute ago, perfectillusion204 said: The album should've been released in February tbh, around the time Training Season was released. Yeah tbh she also needs to not do a 6 month wait between lead and album. It worked during FN only because she spent those months promoting and building a base. She didn't do that this time so it was just empty space where the hype just lessened and lessened everyday. 2
Cloudy Posted May 4 Posted May 4 9 minutes ago, Cain said: The thing is they have SAID they wanted this era to last for years, meaning they probably already booked an entire 2025 tour, prepared a rerelease, picked the singles etc I don't see them diverting I cannot fathom how they listened to the project and said yes this is going to last for at least 3 years
thirdward Posted May 4 Posted May 4 can't believe I'm saying this but pop girls having too much creative freedom might not always be a good thing she should've made an album with Kevin and then send it to more pop producers or the FN team for some tweaking 2
BlackoutZone Posted May 4 Posted May 4 (edited) It's kinda sad how the bombing is so out of line loves are spiraling I understand that it's hard to grasp how awful these numbers are, but the reality is we just went through an empty 6 month long rollout that failed to generate any hype, the single choices and album descriptions ended up being very questionable (with Illusion literally killing the entire era on streaming, not surprising). On top of that she dropped after other pop titans already took over and the pop culture public is probably more focused on Kendrick / Drake beef than this album Edited May 4 by BlackoutZone 8 1
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