NEX Posted March 5 Posted March 5 22 minutes ago, rihannasbe$tfrnd said: That was terrible acting baby no one but the swifties fell for that And this call to vote is aimed precisely at Swifties
byzantium Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Just now, =NEX= said: And this call to vote is aimed precisely at Swifties Not you trying to bring logic to the conversation. What do you think this place is? The real world? 2
Dante Silva Posted March 5 Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, Lemon said: No correlation between my original post and alleged description of the majority of the Western world. The point was that people would interpret even the most direct information/statement whichever way they want/feel like and some of the replies even here reflect that. People will think and talk what they want to think and talk despite anything else, which is a symptom of the post-factual world we are in. Besides, Taylor has already made her political points before, so I am not sure why would you or anyone else need her to clarify that ( again ). It is known where she stands. Because there’s an important election coming up and she has the soft power to actually prevent nuclear annihilation by being clear and precise and not just assuming everyone has watched her past media as a point of reference. 2
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted March 5 ATRL Moderator Posted March 5 52 minutes ago, rihannasbe$tfrnd said: “…vote the people who represent YOU into power. “ okay Aryan princess… we all know who you will be voting for 54 minutes ago, Caesar said: since Swifties put Taylors interests above their own, they are gonna vote for Trump! This attempt is old and unufnny. ETA: The thumbs down on this. Do we have some Trumpies in our presence? 5 9 3
Lemon Posted March 5 Posted March 5 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dante Silva said: Because there’s an important election coming up and she has the soft power to actually prevent nuclear annihilation by being clear and precise and not just assuming everyone has watched her past media as a point of reference. Well, people who have brought “soft power” to her name over years are the ones being informed and advised here, so we can be fairly sure they are aware of her beliefs who are literary couple of clicks away ( see the reply above ). Being clearer is not going to be interpreted in good faith by people who simply are indifferent to her and/or dislike her, which is also apparent. Edited March 5 by Lemon
ATRL Moderator feelslikeadream Posted March 5 ATRL Moderator Posted March 5 She said NO to Genocide Joe 1
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted March 5 ATRL Moderator Posted March 5 33 minutes ago, réveuse said: Mind you, most white women voted for Trump. Many other celebrities stated their political opinions except for her. It's pretty likely that she has and will vote for Trump because of her performative activism and silence on things that actually matter (Palestinian Genocide, extreme transphobia, BLM, police brutality, etc.). She's made it clear she voted for Hillary in 2016, and regretting not speaking publicly at the time (and it was apparent at the time given her campaign donations and events she was seen at), she made it clear she was against Trump all throughout her doc (and she publicly called out Marsha Blackburn and what she stood for), campaigned FOR Biden in 2020 and called out Trump numerous times. She also did speak out quite a bit about BLM and police brutality. I really don't know why you guys are SO hellbent on creating a fictional narrative. 8 1
Dante Silva Posted March 5 Posted March 5 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Lemon said: Well, people who have brought “soft power” to her name over years are the ones being informed and advised here, so we can be fairly sure they are aware of her beliefs who are literary couple of clicks away. Being clearer is not going to be interpreted in good faith by people who simply are indifferent to her and/or dislike her, which is also apparent. I believe for the most part she is a moral person and has humanities best interests at heart. It is established the fanbase have the power to shape the path America takes over the next four years (and therefore the western world). It simply would not have hurt for her to nail her colors to the mast and come out as a defiant democrat. Edited March 5 by Dante Silva
réveuse Posted March 5 Posted March 5 14 minutes ago, MissedTheTrain said: She's made it clear she voted for Hillary in 2016 (and it was apparent at the time given her campaign donations and events she was seen at), she made it clear she was against Trump all throughout her doc (and she publicly called out Marsha Blackburn and what she stood for), campaigned FOR Biden in 2020 and called out Trump numerous times. She also did speak out quite a bit about BLM and police brutality. I really don't know why you guys are SO hellbent on creating a fictional narrative. That was all just performative activism. 2 1 1 12
byzantium Posted March 5 Posted March 5 18 minutes ago, MissedTheTrain said: I really don't know why you guys are SO hellbent on creating a fictional narrative. They need to resort to fiction to somehow justify their hatred towards her. 4
Rep2000 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 53 minutes ago, réveuse said: \\ https://www.mountholyokenews.com/opinion/2020/9/19/taylor-swift-needs-to-calm-down-with-her-performative-activism https://www.thedailybeast.com/taylor-swifts-loud-election-silenceand-connection-to-donald-trump https://truthout.org/articles/yes-55-percent-of-white-women-voted-for-trump-no-im-not-surprised/ 53% of white women eligible to vote nominated Donald Trump as their president. Mind you, most white women voted for Trump. Many other celebrities stated their political opinions except for her. It's pretty likely that she has and will vote for Trump because of her performative activism and silence on things that actually matter (Palestinian Genocide, extreme transphobia, BLM, police brutality, etc.). Then by this definition, so do you. Get your projecting ass out of here. 1
Walk_Away21 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dante Silva said: It’s too subtle. Some people might think she’s telling them to vote for trump. Lmao what. The reach. And the people relying on a billionaire popstar to tell them who to vote for need to touch grass. Do some basic googling and research. Stop needing to be coddled! Edited March 5 by Walk_Away21 3
Rep2000 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 10 minutes ago, réveuse said: That was all just performative activism. Completely delusional. You want her to vote for Trump so bad it's frankly alarming. 1
réveuse Posted March 5 Posted March 5 10 minutes ago, Rep2000 said: Then by this definition, so do you. Get your projecting ass out of here. I'm not even a white woman though... 1 2
Dante Silva Posted March 5 Posted March 5 15 minutes ago, Walk_Away21 said: Lmao what. The ready. And the people relying on a billionaire popstar to tell them who to vote for need to touch grass. Do some basic googling and research. Stop needing to be coddled! By volition of Taylor not (yet) making a definitive statement that she supports the Biden administration in direct correlation to the 2024 election and giving the administration that sharp and pivotal boost, she leaves the door open to Trump and his cronies getting back in to office and those goons interfacing directly with Russia at a point in time when Putin is itching to push the red button and Nuke the planet. Does America truly believe Trump has the IQ or delicateness to talk Putin down? Swifties have a once in a lifetime golden opportunity to band together and unite to save mother nature and the planet itself at a point in time when the stakes have never been higher. This is so much more than a stanbase issue, humanity itself depends upon Taylor using her soft power to galvanise hearts and minds prior to Swifties arriving at the polling station. Otherwise, this is what the future of America looks like: 2 4
byzantium Posted March 5 Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, Dante Silva said: By volition of Taylor not (yet) making a definitive statement that she supports the Biden administration in direct correlation to the 2024 election and giving the administration that sharp and pivotal boost, she leaves the door open to Trump and his cronies getting back in to office and those goons interfacing directly with Russia at a point in time when Putin is itching to push the red button and Nuke the planet. Does America truly believe Trump has the IQ or delicateness to talk Putin down? Swifties have a once in a lifetime golden opportunity to band together and unite to save mother nature and the planet itself at a point in time when the stakes have never been higher. This is so much more than a stanbase issue, humanity itself depends upon Taylor using her soft power to galvanise hearts and minds prior to Swifties arriving at the polling station. Otherwise, this is what the future of America looks like: This is doing too much. First, calling this election a “once in a lifetime” is so odd when we had the same election 4 years ago. Second, the Biden’s administration is currently engaging in morally abhorrent actions and is not someone to support right now. There is a reason Biden is hemorrhaging youth support (and is trailing Trump in some polls for the under 35 vote). 9
Folklore89sm Posted March 5 Posted March 5 I’ll never understand how people can be so mindless that they expect a singer to make up their minds for them and tell them how to vote. If you’re really that desperate to know what way she leans then the information is out there and it’s very clear. The US is utterly f***ed with Biden vs Trump. Awful candidates. Biden has supported genocide this year. Trump is a literal sex offender. You could not pick two worse potential candidates for “leader of the free world”. These are just primaries though so when push comes to shove I expect that TS will swing left as per usual but doing so would be minimising the genocide in Palestine as a simple issue that can be ignored. She literally cannot win this one. 4
Michael196 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Tay SOMEHOW always brings all the ******* to the yard, each one is worse than the other 1 1 1
commander Posted March 5 Posted March 5 (edited) Are people here really expecting a wealthy white straight cis woman to express political endorsement towards anything that doesn't directly benefit her? Lmao. Get a grip and move on. What changes the course of political elections is grassroots activism lead by minorities and poc, not the option of egotistical and narcissist people. Edited March 5 by commander 1 1
Lemon Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Dante Silva said: I believe for the most part she is a moral person and has humanities best interests at heart. It is established the fanbase have the power to shape the path America takes over the next four years (and therefore the western world). It simply would not have hurt for her to nail her colors to the mast and come out as a defiant democrat. And the said fanbase already knows her political stances. If we do not actually think where she stands and her opinions by now, then I am not sure what do we know then. 1
satellites.™ Posted March 5 Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Klein said: Isn't republicans worst nightmare that young people register to vote? ...for Biden, yes!
1989 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, réveuse said: That was all just performative activism. Remember when you were a Swiftie, had a full on unhinged meltdown in the Taylor base, got banned, and now you’ve come back rebranded as an OTH? Now that’s a performance! 6
Kristie Kuwa Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Of course she doesnt position herself in any shape or form. So predictable 1
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