Headlock Posted December 1 Posted December 1 7 hours ago, ICLDXU4HS said: I quoted this from Tik Toker Jasmine Chelbi. Are you calling her an angry black woman? On brand! Truly bottom of the barrel trolling 1
Popboi. Posted December 1 Posted December 1 The long ass think pieces, grass is asking to be touched in this page
Pepo Posted December 1 Posted December 1 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Music Industry said: Autonomy isn't just about being able to do what you want, it's also about not having to rely on others in doing so. Beyoncé obviously relies on others much, much more than Taylor in order to create art. I mean, it's just a fact. There's more collaborators on a single song from Cowboy Carter than on Taylor's last 4 albums combined. You put Taylor alone in a room and she can create art on her own. She can write the song alone, compose its melodies alone, she can do the instrumentals alone (piano, guitar, etc..), she can produce alone. The same can't be said about Beyoncé, at least not to the same degree of Taylor. Taylor would need vocal producers and studio engineers to perfect her pitch and every portion of her vocals. The narrative that Taylor could execute anything alone is actually flawed. It makes no sense whatsoever. Both Whitney and Aretha, but also Celine had to rely on other songwriters, although this doesn't diminish their worth as artists at all. Edited December 1 by Pepo 13 1
1989 Posted December 1 Posted December 1 The usual suspects in here crying about the same video that's went "viral" before. Are y'all not tired?
king_queen Posted December 1 Posted December 1 3 hours ago, The Music Industry said: Autonomy isn't just about being able to do what you want, it's also about not having to rely on others in doing so. Beyoncé obviously relies on others much, much more than Taylor in order to create art. I mean, it's just a fact. There's more collaborators on a single song from Cowboy Carter than on Taylor's last 4 albums combined. You put Taylor alone in a room and she can create art on her own. She can write the song alone, compose its melodies alone, she can do the instrumentals alone (piano, guitar, etc..), she can produce alone. The same can't be said about Beyoncé, at least not to the same degree of Taylor. How many ppl does Taylor need to make her not look like Bowser on stage? 11 2
StayFrosty Posted December 1 Posted December 1 I love how every week we get a viral tweet questioning her talent 💀💀. Y'all can say **** like tweets don't matter but the same cannot be done to Beyonce, Adele, Billie... Etc. 3
OrgVisual Posted December 1 Posted December 1 2 hours ago, Pepo said: Taylor would need vocal producers and studio engineers to perfect her pitch and every portion of her vocals. The narrative that Taylor could execute anything alone is actually flawed. It makes no sense whatsoever. Both Whitney and Aretha, but also Celine had to rely on other songwriters, although this doesn't diminish their worth as artists at all. Exactly. Whitney has like almost 0 credits on her hits and albums, yet I don't see the disrespect towards her like these "music fans" are doing to Bey. They're just finding an excuse since they can't really drag Bey for anything else 7 1
byzantium Posted December 1 Posted December 1 5 minutes ago, OrgVisual said: Exactly. Whitney has like almost 0 credits on her hits and albums, yet I don't see the disrespect towards her like these "music fans" are doing to Bey. They're just finding an excuse since they can't really drag Bey for anything else To be fair, I don't really see Whitney fans going out of their way to disrespect other artists either. So it seems like a two way street.
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted December 1 ATRL Moderator Posted December 1 That TikTok video.....why can't people accept the simple truth that music is subjective and if you don't like something, it's just not for you? You don't need to be so LOUD about not liking an artist (and this isn't even just about the people trying to trash Taylor, it's about any "hater" in general who tries to pretend they're speaking in good faith). Calling her talentless just screams bias/obtuse/etc. I know that this all stems from the Billboard list, and it's insane that people still want to compare Bey and Tay because they're completely different artists. I'd never expect Taylor to deliver a masterclass performance with amazing vocals the way Beyonce does, just like I'd never expect Beyonce to write an album by herself in a detailed yet relatable way how Taylor does. They make different kinds of music and serve different purposes.....and thank God for that, because we need different flavors of artists in the world. The whole point of being an artist is having a perspective, and showing the world that perspective through your art. Every human on the planet has a different perspective of things, so yeah...every artist is going to have different strengths and ways of putting their vision into their art. And not everyone is going to like everything, because they shouldn't. 7
Shinkirou Posted December 1 Posted December 1 Meh, at this point everyone knows she's a mid performer. That's why she's made up for it with production value and stage presence. It's actually kind of endearing seeing how confident she is considering how awkward she looks.
Radical Pessimism Posted December 1 Posted December 1 dancing through life Skimming the surface Gliding where turf is smooth Life's more painless For the brainless 1
EnigmaticAndroid Posted December 1 Posted December 1 (edited) 13 hours ago, ICLDXU4HS said: That lady cannot sing. She . Y'all keep saying, "Oh. Her pen, her pen." Her pen is a crayon. Sksjsjkskskk Edited December 1 by EnigmaticAndroid 1
Into The Void Posted December 1 Posted December 1 14 hours ago, Devin said: imagine paying $2000+ to see this. U could give me $2000 and I still won't go 3
Rotunda Posted December 1 Posted December 1 7 hours ago, The Music Industry said: Autonomy isn't just about being able to do what you want, it's also about not having to rely on others in doing so. Beyoncé obviously relies on others much, much more than Taylor in order to create art. I mean, it's just a fact. There's more collaborators on a single song from Cowboy Carter than on Taylor's last 4 albums combined. You put Taylor alone in a room and she can create art on her own. She can write the song alone, compose its melodies alone, she can do the instrumentals alone (piano, guitar, etc..), she can produce alone. The same can't be said about Beyoncé, at least not to the same degree of Taylor. The way you 1- presented "artistic autonomy" like it's a recognized term with an agreed upon definition just so you could list off categories where you think Taylor outshines Bey, 2- had to circle back to make up a fake definition because you got clocked that those two words don't imply what you assert they're implying 3- in making this fake definition, basically just restated your previous listed item where you ranked Taylor over Bey ("solo authorship"), indicating you're genuinely grasping at straws and just wanted to pull a laundry list out of your ass (while conveniently limiting Bey's talents to solely singing and dancing). 9 1 2
Bewitched Posted December 1 Posted December 1 We can argue about her vocals but I think we all known Taylor can't dance lol
Dula Peep Posted December 1 Posted December 1 This country literally just elected Donald Trump as President of the United States again... so I will never believe in it's taste ever again. 1
Rep2000 Posted December 1 Posted December 1 1 hour ago, Into The Void said: U could give me $2000 and I still won't go Nobody wants you there either 3
Bey_Rihstan Posted December 1 Posted December 1 Taylor is a terrible live singer/performer and has been for nearly 20 years. Breaking news! what are the actual current events for the day
Rv1709 Posted December 1 Posted December 1 To be fair, if there were no performers, band, Taylor could still put on a show with her guitar and her piano. Beyonce would just cancel 1 2 2
BnPac Posted December 1 Posted December 1 27 minutes ago, Rv1709 said: To be fair, if there were no performers, band, Taylor could still put on a show with her guitar and her piano. Beyonce would just cancel Big LOL. Without a band, without a mic and without instruments, Beyoncé will WOW! That's a fact! The pitch and the notes would all be correct and PERFECT. She is THE greatest pop star of this century. 9
Lovett Posted December 1 Posted December 1 28 minutes ago, Rv1709 said: To be fair, if there were no performers, band, Taylor could still put on a show with her guitar and her piano. Beyonce would just cancel Beyoncé can also play the piano, or she could stand there and sing acapella and bring the house down. This was not the drag you thought it was. 12
BnPac Posted December 1 Posted December 1 Anyway she's not a performer, she has other strengths that people love. I'm also happy that the first viral post in the OP is by a white lady because some Swifties would have taken this thread in a weird direction.
killer_rose Posted December 1 Posted December 1 The chicken dance aside, I thought Taylor was at least singing live at her shows? Why is she lipping here? 1
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