byzantium Posted February 26 Posted February 26 12 minutes ago, Dephira said: Hamas is an extremist terrorist organization that purposefully murders children and brainwashes them to take part in a senseless Jihad with no compunction. Palestinians will be 100x better off once it is dismantled, and no amount of Westerners praising the actions of Hamas on social media is going to change that. This is disgusting. There is no good faith way you can look at what Israel is doing and say that it is for the Gazan’s best interest. If you were actually invested in caring about Palestinians, maybe you would listen to them and empower them as equals rather than support their eradication. 10
Cameltoe Chariot Posted February 26 Posted February 26 14 minutes ago, Dephira said: Hamas is an extremist terrorist organization that purposefully murders children and brainwashes them to take part in a senseless Jihad with no compunction, while the leaders are literal millionaires and billionaires enjoying lavish lifestyles in Egypt and Qatar based on humanitarian aid stolen from Western shipments. Palestinians will be 100x better off once it is dismantled, and no amount of Westerners praising the actions of Hamas on social media is going to change that. The Israeli Government is an extremist terrorist organization that purposefully murders children and brainwashes them to take part in a senseless violence with no compunction, while the leaders are literal millionaires and billionaires enjoying lavish lifestyles thanks to support from the war industrial complex of the west. Israeli citizens and Palestinians will be 100x better off once it is dismantled, and no amount of Westerners praising the actions of Netanyahu on social media is going to change that. Fixed it for you!!! 3
Cameltoe Chariot Posted February 26 Posted February 26 7 minutes ago, byzantium said: Please get your petty stan wars out of a discussion about genocide. I know you mean well and you're right about the seriousness of this discussion - but you're also jumping in on an exchange without context. I'm calling out this person for spreading zionist propaganda after they've followed me around for weeks in Taylor threads. That's all.
byzantium Posted February 26 Posted February 26 8 minutes ago, Cameltoe Chariot said: I know you mean well and you're right about the seriousness of this discussion - but you're also jumping in on an exchange without context. I'm calling out this person for spreading zionist propaganda after they've followed me around for weeks in Taylor threads. That's all. All I am asking is you don’t bring your Stan war over some pop artist into this thread. This place is not the place to litigate your issue with Swifties or any other pop fanbase.
State of Grace. Posted February 26 Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Dephira said: The IOF is an extremist terrorist organization that purposefully murders children. Palestinians will be 100x better off once it is dismantled, and no amount of Western Zionists praising the actions of Israel on social media is going to change that. correct! 5 1
Both Sides Now Posted February 26 Posted February 26 2 hours ago, Cameltoe Chariot said: The Israeli Government is an extremist terrorist organization that purposefully murders children and brainwashes them to take part in a senseless violence with no compunction, while the leaders are literal millionaires and billionaires enjoying lavish lifestyles thanks to support from the war industrial complex of the west. Israeli citizens and Palestinians will be 100x better off once it is dismantled, and no amount of Westerners praising the actions of Netanyahu on social media is going to change that. Fixed it for you!!! Well this is the thing. Whether Israeli or Palestinian, children shouldn’t have to grow up worrying about wars and weapons. Israeli children grow up knowing that they have to serve in the IDF or face imprisonment. They’re brainwashed into thinking it’s an honourable thing to spend their teen years evicting farmers from their land or taking selfies on the lands they’ve stolen. See below. The strange thing is that some users are more concerned by an (imaginary) situation where Hamas brainwash all children of Gaza to become bloodthirsty racists rather than a very real situation where all Israeli children are brainwashed. Hamas don’t have conscription but the IDF do, by the way! Why is it that Palestinian children are considered brainwashed but not the Israelis? Is it because the IDF kill Muslims? Because they kill brown people? Because they are the oppressors brutally murdering the oppressed? I’m not sure - take your pick. But you can see the vitriol when Israelis refuse to take part in the genocide. They’re called self-hating Jews etc. 6
suburbannature Posted February 27 Posted February 27 21 hours ago, Dephira said: Are we supposed to be outraged that a random journalist on a news channel considers something to be anti-Semitic? They literally received an award and their speech was spotlighted. Meanwhile a Hamas Leader’s speech was shown on Al Jazeera TV, where he called on people to “build on the victory of October 7”, referred to the people in Gaza as a “frontline trench for defense” and urged people to “wage Jihad with their life and money”. I didn’t see a thread made about this https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/01/14/hamas-leader-urges-muslims-worldwide-build-oct-7-victory-engage-financial-jihad/amp/ This is so unsurprising coming from you 2 4
Bosque Posted February 27 Posted February 27 12 minutes ago, suburbannature said: This is so unsurprising coming from you It's unsurprising that I think referring to October 7 as a victory and urging civilians to give up their life in Jihad is bad? I guess so
suburbannature Posted February 27 Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, Dephira said: It's unsurprising that I think referring to October 7 as a victory and urging civilians to give up their life in Jihad is bad? I guess so No, your intentional misrepresentation and support of genocidal military moves under the guise of fighting terrorism are what I find unsurprising. 7
Bosque Posted February 27 Posted February 27 47 minutes ago, suburbannature said: No, your intentional misrepresentation and support of genocidal military moves under the guise of fighting terrorism are what I find unsurprising. Okay, not sure how directly quoting a political leader is an intentional misrepresentation but hope you feel better now 5
suburbannature Posted February 27 Posted February 27 8 minutes ago, Dephira said: Okay, not sure how directly quoting a political leader is an intentional misrepresentation but hope you feel better now Someone already explained it to you and you chose to ignore it. 3 4
Communion Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 17 hours ago, Aristotle said: Israel has been playing chess and capitalizing the attacks from Arabs to further expand and punish Palestinians using excuses for occupying, displacing and bombing them in 1948 and 1967. Arabs attack first, Israel uses it as pretext to justify their act and achieve greater Israel. I wish Arabs had understood this earlier instead of just falling in a bigger trap. Unfortunately there are Islamic prophecies in Hadiths about war with the Jews and that the victory is guaranteed on the side of Muslims instead of just looking on their economy and military technology to find out who is really going to win and accept a big Palestinian state in 1947. I wish for a immediate permanent ceasefire which will stop the countless deaths of Palestinians and bring back the hostages. Framing settler colonialism as "not starting" a conflict is weird in itself, but the bold is also such a weird projection and attempt to frame Palestinian resistance as something oddly driven by religion when the vast majority of Western support for Israel comes from a religious prophecy. Israel's support largely is either from people 1) who think that Jewish people's existence is an affront to God and will result in an event that will bring about the End of Times and allow all of God's true followers to ascend to heaven at once and leave Jews, Muslims, Atheists, etc. down on Earth as a hellish armageddon unfolds or 2) whose lineage personally helped massacre 6M Jewish people. Edited February 28 by Communion 2
Jjang Posted February 29 Author Posted February 29 (edited) 10 hours ago, Aristotle said: I have been told that majority or at least many of settlers bought the land from Ottomans and Arabs. Besides if you have not noticed, many of the borders and state names in Africa and Middle East are actually artificially constructed by either Westerners or in some cases Ottomans. Like Jordan for example. I find it hard to believe that attack in 1947 was just or mainly a response to settler policy or nationalism otherwise Arabs would not accept British borders elsewhere either. I agree that the creation of Jewish ethnostate in territory of Palestine was a mistake. If they wanted to create a Jewish ethnostate elsewhere without harming anyone I would not be opposed. Sure, ethnostate are not moral however as long as they not harming anyone I would not care that much. After all Saudi Arabia does not accept non-Muslims either. Religious prophecy/propaganda definitely gains heavy support for Israel from Republicans but that's actually working in favour of Israel. "Who started it" does not matter the pro-Israel side will just use the dhimmi history of Mizrahi Jews as a taxed second class citizens otherwise. On 2/27/2024 at 10:14 PM, Aristotle said: Israel has been playing chess and capitalizing the attacks from Arabs to further expand and punish Palestinians using excuses for occupying, displacing and bombing them in 1948 and 1967. Arabs attack first, Israel uses it as pretext to justify their act and achieve greater Israel. I wish Arabs had understood this earlier instead of just falling in a bigger trap. Unfortunately there are Islamic prophecies in Hadiths about war with the Jews and that the victory is guaranteed on the side of Muslims instead of just looking on their economy and military technology to find out who is really going to win and accept a big Palestinian state in 1947. I wish for a immediate permanent ceasefire which will stop the countless deaths of Palestinians and bring back the hostages. it’s abundantly clear that you spend quite some time reading up Zionist talking points and then come in these threads uncritically repeating them as if they’re established historical truths while still pretending to be sympathetic and understanding towards Palestinians (on the “humanitarian” side ) Edited February 29 by Jjang
Aethereal Posted February 29 Posted February 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jjang said: it’s abundantly clear that you spend quite some time reading up Zionist talking points and then come in these threads uncritically repeating them as if they’re established historical truths while still pretending to be sympathetic and understanding towards Palestinians (on the “humanitarian” side ) . What I said was not the right place and time to say it, I don't know what got me. Arab leaders were at fault for attacking Israel but 75 years of oppression has passed to mention it now, especially in this time. If anything it can be seen as coded subtle excuse for Israeli bombing in Gaza now (which I sincerely did not mean) so I apologize. Edited February 29 by Aristotle
Cloröx Posted February 29 Posted February 29 On 2/26/2024 at 11:46 PM, Cameltoe Chariot said: I've always wondered if you were a troll or not every time you're up my ass in my notifications about Taylor... but now I get it! You're both a Swiftie AND a Zionist - two cults at once, I'm impressed! Please do not bring stan war into this conflict. Most vocal Palestine supporters in ATRL are also Swifties. Anyway, I'm surprise that infamous coward Zionist genocide supporter mytearsrichocet is not here disliking all pro-Palestine comments
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