Phaunzie Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lüwís said: Hi there, Phaunzie. You seem a little upset in your response, so I'll try to be as polite as possible, sweet pea. I wouldn't want to upset you further. Some things in your post seem a little contradictory. You gave me a multiplication lesson followed with a reference to lyrics from the title song of Lady GaGa's ARTPOP; 'Music not the bling' suggests to me that artistry, namely music, is more important than money. So, was your point to say that money is the more important of the two things? If so, I think that was already pointed out in your previous posts in this thread. As for Madonna (a wonderful artiste), I'm not sure why her name was mentioned here at all. Madame Hudson can absolutely spend her own money however she wants. My point was that it wouldn't make sense to finance tours if fewer and fewer people are going to turn up. Sure, she could finance smaller tours as time goes on but arenas are likely to get harder to fill if she's not going to improve things. She's known for putting on extravagant shows, sure, but she is definitely not known for being a great performer or a great singer. That wasn't me being 'shady' or critical, it's just a fact. She's not a girl, she a grown woman who has had great success as an artist but I don't see why she should stop building upon her legacy at all. Would you really want your favourite artist to be remembered as a talent show judge or a great artist? I can tell you want music from her but it's quite strange that you've openly admitted that you 'want drama'. If her next singles and albums don't do well, I'm sure you'll get some drama but not the kind you want. I do not care at all about Madame Hudson's chart positions. I could not care less - meaning, her chart positions don't bother me in any way. My point was that she needs some success, whether it's a song or album that gets to number one, two, three, twenty-five, whatever - she will need some decent hits (hit songs don't necessarily reach the top position) to continue touring as a bigger artist. I suspect she might feel the same way (I don't know, I'm not in her head) as she herself recently implied that she doesn't want to be called a 'flop' again. This other person who you say is fabulous for a throwback - I'll presume it's Lady GaGa as she seems to upset you - sure, she's not as popular as she once was, but she's building on her legacy as an artist. She's still doing things that are a tad more noteworthy than others from her peak era. Hudon's existence does not bother me at all. She's no threat to me, she lives in a different country, we don't know each other at all. We have no connection. She's done nothing to me, so why would I be wishing she didn't exist? That's a bit odd to suggest! She's not my favourite artist ever but I still love 'One of the Boys' and I have 21 other songs of hers in my liked songs on Spotify. That's more than a lot of ther artists. So, no, her existence doesn't upset me one bit. I've never once heard of 'UNSUB Records'. Also, I'm already employed in the banking industry, so I don't need to check them out right now. Thanks for the recommendation, though. I'm rooting for Madame Hudson, too. Enjoy your day / evening, wherever you are Upset? Edited February 22 by Phaunzie 1
Parallel Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Everyone knows for musicians, touring is where the money is at. When you can sell out stadiums, everything else is kind of irrelevant money wise. Movies are prestigious, reality shows are not. 4
Ron Ng Posted February 22 Posted February 22 4 hours ago, frankvert said: A literal comparison of each lady’s respective career state. Reminder that money can’t buy happiness, talent, respect, or a legacy Gaga: Katy: 5 2
Dula Peep Posted February 22 Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Happylittlepunk said: You can only bring money into this for Katy from a dying tv show because Katy absolutely has nothing else going for her. It’s quite sad that she give up on career so easily. I honestly don’t think she intended to be there for seven years…but the check was good enough I guess
Blade Runner Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) And what is that doing for her career? lol DONE AND DUSTED. KittyCats are so annoying. It's 2024. You have no place here. Please go away. Edited February 22 by Blade Runner 3 1 1
Distantconstellation Posted February 22 Posted February 22 6 hours ago, Happylittlepunk said: Too bad Katy can’t convert those views into actual sales, charts, or attendance. You just went off topic and thats against the rules 2
simplywohoo Posted February 22 Posted February 22 5 hours ago, Lüwís said: Thousands of people earn immense amounts of money for doing things that aren't noteworthy or of any interest. Earning a lot of money doesn't mean they're solidifying their cultural status or contributing anything substantial to the world or their field of work, etc. I don't think many artists (whether they're acting, singing or doing something else) will be remembered or praised for how much money they earn (unless it's billions). They'll be remembered and praised for what they put out into the world. For example, if I were an artist, I'd rather earn $12,000,000 as an actor (let's say, after a waning musical career) rather than $25,000,000 for being a judge on a tacky talent show (again, after a waning music career). In any case, whoever you're a fan of, it's quite odd to care so much about what your 'fave' or your 'anti-fave' is earning when you won't see a penny of that in your bank account. Idk idgaf about being remembered, that can't buy me **** Nevertheless.. dumb flamebait thread
Biggie Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1) Katy Perry is literally married to a beautiful man, haters need to stop trying to seem like anything else is more bragworthy. 2) We thank you for reminding us of this, the 25k figure has been thrown around for three years and each time it's brought up it increases her streams and popularity. 3) Literally everyone I know praises her singing abilities and bows down to her AI judgment, so her payout is justified and not at all a lie. 2
Bimbo Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Why are the 3 Katy stans left comparing an Oscar winning A-List movie superstar with someone that's filling Paula Abdul's seat? One shares the screen with film legends, the other one shares the stage with a literal TURD. Coping seems harder every year 9 1
Bubble Tea Posted February 22 Posted February 22 6 hours ago, ohwow said: the poop sing-a-long songstress won The fact that this always gets mentioned and brought up like that wasn't exactly what she wanted. Katy doesn't strike me as someone paranoid about her "legacy." Her impact and career was astronomical at its peak, the legacy is solidified.
The_Bling Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Do you guys really stan people based on how much money they make? Are they paying you or something?
SylMacPer Posted February 22 Posted February 22 7 hours ago, Happylittlepunk said: You can only bring money into this for Katy from a dying tv show because Katy absolutely has nothing else going for her. It’s quite sad that she give up on career so easily. if you don’t like Katy why do you even bother about her career choices??? She underperforms chart-wise or doesn't have 100% attendance in her shows, then she’s soooo over for ATRL!! But if she goes for an enormous check, bless her, she chose money instead of her career(?) I guess she chose to be happy (and rich) and everyone should be ok with that! It’s not that any of the pop girls were changing the world or making a real difference to bother about their legacy!
Feanor Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Stans using rich people's income for fan fights will always be funny, as if any of us make either 30 or 12 million dollars from a single gig.
Janet Posted February 22 Posted February 22 24 minutes ago, Feanor said: Stans using rich people's income for fan fights will always be funny, as if any of us make either 30 or 12 million dollars from a single gig. Speak for yourself. This bussy is raking it in 1
Keeandga Posted February 22 Posted February 22 I don’t really care much for either, Katy/Gaga but showing the gif of her dancing with the **** (when the rest of the show was great) but enigma was just as bad.
Mirkomonster Posted February 22 Posted February 22 11 hours ago, manuelalex9810 said: Katy was being dragged by that fanbase for being on idol and getting paid 25M per season only to her fav getting paid much less for an entire $200M budget movie. Being the 2nd most payed actress for a Monster film with Joaquin Phoenix Is a drag? 💀💀
Mirkomonster Posted February 22 Posted February 22 6 hours ago, Ron Ng said: Still a 100% sold out residency
frankvert Posted February 22 Posted February 22 6 hours ago, Ron Ng said: Enigma has been shelved since 2019. 5 YEARS ago. Katy Cats step into 2024 challenge 3
Zaram Posted February 22 Posted February 22 12 hours ago, manuelalex9810 said: Katy was being dragged by that fanbase for being on idol and getting paid 25M per season only to her fav getting paid much less for an entire $200M budget movie. She is literally one of the highest paid actresses after just three movies so nice try
frankvert Posted February 22 Posted February 22 3 hours ago, Zaram said: She is literally one of the highest paid actresses after just three movies so nice try It’s so funny how Kittens don’t know how the music OR film industries work! Constantly lowering the bar, I fear
Sannie Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Now tell us, what exactly did American Idol do for Katy's career? Do we need to pull up the boxscores? Do you realize what you are trying to brag about? Katy Perry is making money doing something only washed-up has beens have done historically. She is sitting on the panel with Lionel Richie. May 27-29, 2022 8,947 (85.45%) 3 shows June 3-4, 2022 6,312 (82.02%) 2 shows June 8-11, 2022 10,838 (87.99%) 3 shows August 10-13, 2022 10,980 (87.77%) 3 shows October 5-8, 2022 10,376 (84.79%) 3 shows October 14-15, 2022 7,004 (82.99%) 2 shows Clearly the show did not help her, so does this mean she was overpaid? Actresses like Margot Robbie and Lady Gaga are not only getting $12m upfront, but also a percentage of their box office PLUS global critical acclaim and adoration from the public and the industry. In addition, they are given more opportunities for future roles and projects. Katy, meanwhile, gets no acclaim and maybe goes "viral" every now and then because of something stupid she says, but nothing else. The only thing she has going for her are 10+ year-old songs getting streams. So yeah, when you look at this beyond the surface number, it looks like you are dragging Katy. :( 3 1
Lüwís Posted February 22 Posted February 22 11 hours ago, Phaunzie said: Upset? Yes, you were very clearly upset. Hope you're feeling better now, Phaunzie.
Lüwís Posted February 22 Posted February 22 10 hours ago, simplywohoo said: Idk idgaf about being remembered, that can't buy me **** Nevertheless.. dumb flamebait thread The point is, $12,000,000 is not to be sniffed at. It also depends on what you want. If you're only interested in the money you're not an artist. Why this thread was made in the first place is beyond me. Who cares who earns what? Celebrities are overpaid for doing the bare minimum and their fans aren't getting any of it. Some people on here are so weird.
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