discussion ATRL Honest Talks: Straight Male Validation

[Chris]

People watch too many adult fantasy films.

[Chris]

48 minutes ago, jonapova said:

We want the straights to like us so we get to enjoy their peens

[Digitalism]

22 minutes ago, St. Charles said:

I don’t have any gay friends sadly so I am constantly surrounded by them. It’s really weird because I feel disconnected from the LGBT community but I def don’t feel like I’m part of the “straight world” either.

This. 

I know how to get validation from any group but I don't get anything from it. I feel alianated with every group.

 

 

1. Why do you think straight male validation is so important for gays in general? 

Straight men, specially when they are young, are the least accepting of the lgbt . So it's expected that gays want the validation that they never got growing up.

 

2. What are the root causes? 

Self steem problems.

 

 

3. Is SMV (Straight Male Validation) important to you? 

Once you get the validation it becomes meaningless.

A lot of my straight  friend have told me that I have lying to them and I'm straight. When I was young I got something from it now It feels disgusting.

 

 

4. Is this a thing of the past? Are we slowly shedding of those regressive ways of thinking? 

No. 

I think all of gays go through it. Some people overcome it eventually.

A lot of gays suffered from abandonment when they were young so they develop limerence for straight guys. It's perfect for them because they will never be corresponded reinforcing their self hating ideas. 

 

[feelslikeadream]

I don't care to get "validation" from straight men, whatever that means  Sure, I'll take their dong water if that's an option, but their opinions don't mean much.

[Leptine]

I personally don't care to seek validation or approvation from other people at all, let alone if they're straight, I couldn't care less.

[St. Charles]

56 minutes ago, shyboi said:

 

But ATRL is meant to be very LGBTQ2S+, i know is not exactly real life but you are not that disconnected. You interact daily here

That’s true, I never thought about it like that!

[shyboi]

12 minutes ago, feelslikeadream said:

I don't care to get "validation" from straight men, whatever that means  Sure, I'll take their dong water if that's an option, but their opinions don't mean much.

 

[St. Charles]

24 minutes ago, Digitalism said:

This. 

I know how to get validation from any group but I don't get anything from it. I feel alianated with every group.

Yeah tbh it seems like most of the time I sort of bounce between groups and even though I force myself to assimilate to them, I eventually feel “too different” from them and then isolate myself again. 

[thedeathbymusic]

37 minutes ago, rebeltwat said:

No  The only straight men in my life are the ones I'm related to

literally this

[Keter]

I sincerely think straight male validation is only something bottoms crave. And I also think the notion of being “top” or “bottom” is also dumb. The entire “culture” is really only true to a specific sub-group of gay men. 

[shyboi]

7 minutes ago, Keter said:

I sincerely think straight male validation is only something bottoms crave. And I also think the notion of being “top” or “bottom” is also dumb. The entire “culture” is really only true to a specific sub-group of gay men. 

 

Very interesting, and what sub-group would that be? 

Edited February 20 by shyboi

[makeme]

I'm not really needing to be validated by them. But Straight men are just soo attractive. Hyper masculinity is hot idk why 

[mons†er]

I don’t know what straight male validation is but I do know what conforming to heteronormative behaviors is. 

 

and anyone who wants the heterosexual males to ‘validate’ them are just trying to sleep with a straight guy who has no interest in them. 

[alexrex]

Straight white men screwed this world. Why would I seek for validation from them? 

Edited February 20 by alexrex

[shyboi]

8 minutes ago, makeme said:

I'm not really needing to be validated by them. But Straight men are just soo attractive. Hyper masculinity is hot idk why 

 

do you find all straight men attractive regardless of their looks? 

[ontherocks]

Yes 

[KOMH]

It's wholly useless to me

[Kummercell]

There's not a single straight man that I'm in constant contact with or who has any sort of importance to my personal or professional life so I don't really care. 

[EdgeofTeeth]

Many gay men grew up being rejected or made to feel "othered" by straight men. I think wanting validation from them, subconsciously or otherwise, is a normal psychological response to that.

[imabadkid]

I hangout with a lot of straight men, most of them I met through my ex… a lot of them tell me I’m “diFfRenT” whatever that means…. To be honest I don’t care about straight men which is why I guess they’re intrigued by me. For some reason they’re so used to girlies obsessing over them and worshipping the ground they walk on. So no it’s not important to me.

 

the truth about straight men is they’re fragile, need to constantly be told

how great they are, even the ones who have zero romantic interest in men are still somehow insulted if a gay isn’t into them or doesn’t want to f*ck them. They’re annoying.

[imabadkid]

1 hour ago, ontherocks said:

Yes 

why is this taking me out. I was not expecting  

[shyboi]

1 hour ago, ontherocks said:

Yes 

 

honest queen! 

[Kern]

straight man can be attractive. I also think that gay (that make-up youtuber) attraction to straight might come from daddy issues? Btw. apparently they don't wash their ass so that's kinda gross actually

[makeme]

3 hours ago, shyboi said:

 

do you find all straight men attractive regardless of their looks? 

hell no only hot straight men lol 

[ohwow]

i dont

i also dont want them near me for too long