celeb news Songwriter Tiffany Red calls out Beyonce for stealing writing credits

[shoganai]

Now she’s going to be imprisoned in that basement together with Sia

[airplane]

oh

[CandleGuy]

So the artist should get 0% of the royalties just because they didn't write the song?

 

Isn't having a cut of publishing the only way the artist gets paid from streams and sales?

[Kristie Kuwa]

2 minutes ago, Zefierce said:

I'm simply stating a common viewpoint.

 

Most people in this thread are agreeing with me, are they dupes as well?

But this woman has never worked with Beyoncé, so what are we even talking about?

[Beyle Street]

3 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

Then her fans complain cause She never won AOTY while Michael Jackson, Outkast or Lauryn Hill did.

Cause that recognition is meant for musicians creating music. 

 

Then i think Beyoncé music especially in the last decade It's from good to great and it's pretty okay to be just a performer of good-great music like i don't know Elvis or aretha and so many other legends, so Who cares but people behind the scenes well know She is just the "brand" over other people work. 

This has always been such a banal reasoning for her not winning AOTY. SZA has acclaim as a songwriter and was shut out of the General Field. Summer Walker is a writer and her last 2 albums were snubbed from nominations across the board. Beyonce has a literal SOTY win but you think voters are like "I LOVE this record but she's not the main writer so she can't win" as the driving force for her losses? 
Renaissance and Self-Titled could've been completely self-written and they STILL would've lost. 

[XAMJ]

beyonce doesnt steal she gets INSPIRATION!!!

[Xtina23]

12 minutes ago, Zefierce said:

Beyonce is infamous for being a thief, so this comes to a surprise to no one.

PeriodT!!!

[PrettyHurts]

1 minute ago, CandleGuy said:

So the artist should get 0% of the royalties just because they didn't write the song?

 

Isn't having a cut of publishing the only way the artist gets paid from streams and sales?

She didn't say 0%, but you have to admit it's hard for a songwriter to have their main or only source of income cut into by someone who is already wealthy and has other income sources. Artists like Bey treat songwriters as disposable constantly requesting huge amounts of demos from huge amounts of songwriters, some who they never meet until later, and then taking partial credit. Bey is even known to mash different songs together or make different teams of people work on the same song, all increasing the number of people credited and cutting into their potential income. It's a great opportunity to work with someone like Bey but I get why she's saying its exploitative. 

[Mornings]

7 minutes ago, CandleGuy said:

So the artist should get 0% of the royalties just because they didn't write the song?

 

Isn't having a cut of publishing the only way the artist gets paid from streams and sales?

usually publishing is 50% of royalties. so yeah if the artist doest write their song they shouldn't get any of those royalties. they should really just get what they deserve for being the performer. and the people who composed the music and wrote the lyrics deserve their fair share. its a collaboration unless you are able to write, play instruments, record, engineer, etc. then everyone involved deserves ONLY what they contribute. 

 

performers can get money from touring, and performances, and brand deals and promotion spots for the music if all they do is perform what other people write for them. 

Edited February 19 by Mornings

[Rotunda]

I feel like it’s pretty understood that some artists effectively have a “tax” associated with their work, where they want a certain cut of the publishing. I wouldn’t be opposed to more transparency/better practices around this, but also wish we knew what songs were being implicated here so we could have a real convo about Bey’s contribution. 

[QueenBeyoncé]

Never worked with Beyoncé.. but using her name for clout 

Edited February 19 by QueenBeyoncé

[BGKC]

Lol, Bey credits every one involved, even if It’s a huff and a puff on the track. This girl has never worked with her and is using Bey’s name for traction. 
 

 

Some advice for her would be not to sign things you’ll end up regretting. 

 

[perfect blue]

This is why she will NEVER win AOTY. Not because of sexism or racism. But because she continuously steals from the people in the voting process. 

[Big Bad Wolf]

18 minutes ago, Big Bad Wolf said:

I love Beyonce, but at this point, there’s no excuse for an artist of her caliber to constantly disrespect songwriters like this. I hope justice is served. 

The downvotes are jokey! Imagine saying it’s fine that someone like Beyonce is stealing percentages and money from unknown songwriters just because of her name.

 

Maybe Beyonce should pick up a pen sometime. 

[hallucinate]

so she never worked with bey and just assumes? i was expecting an actual exposé‬ fffff

Edited February 19 by hallucinate

[305]

I believe women

[QueenBeyoncé]

And bringing up Kelis when in FACT she stopped a producer from getting paid for Bossy for almost 20 years

Edited February 19 by QueenBeyoncé

[BGKC]

That one Xtina fan in every Beyoncé thread

 

 

[Rotunda]

@Zefierce I suggest you find a hobby beyond antagonizing the Hive, because I suspect you’re gonna either end up banned or looking like a laughingstock by the time this era is over. 

Edited February 19 by Rotunda

[rnb]

1 minute ago, BGKC said:

That one Xtina fan in every Beyoncé thread

 

 

and the taylor swift one 

[beyonceparkwood]

Not this narrative again…

 

Somehow she ‘steals’ but at the same time ‘has so many credits’. Like pick or choose, those two are juxtaposing. It’s been this narrative since forever 🤠

[Yakult]

4 minutes ago, BGKC said:

That one Xtina fan in every Beyoncé thread

 

 

The biggest loser on this site. They're currently going through & disliking my old posts bc I reacted to their trolling in this thread.

Edited February 19 by Yakult

[Dreajae]

Not surprised at the usuals trying to attach this deranged woman's b.s Beys era for a SECOND time. 

 

Too bad T.H.E is receiving even greater reception and sales with minimal song writers and a unique composition. Can't say that was stolen, so now we have to downplay the fact that SZA and other black female song writers are still shut out of general categories. 

[TaggedGalaxy]

I'm just here for the mess

 

[Shelter]

Aww the haters in here because they can’t say anything about her smashing. 

 

This person going on about Kelis, Beyonce credited those who wrote and produced Milkshake. Kelis did NOT.