Dante Silva Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Everyday the forum is filled with increasingly dumb threads about how Dua has supposedly got her single choices wrong, her video direction wrong, choice of album producers and/ or the clothing she wears in her latest video wrong. The list is endless. Nothing she has done is dramatically strange/ different/ un-commercial/ wrong. No other (even higher profile female artist) faces this level of intense scrutiny by the forum. It is starting to feel like an avalanche of criticism, on a practically non existent basis. The criticisms of Dua generally appear to be from forum members who are known to be American and with the onslaught of each thread criticising her, it appears more and more that America simply does not ‘get’/ understand/ know how to interpret a perceived shift in Dua’s music and visual aesthetic. Why should she be forced to neuter her sonic growth and artistic vision in order to bow down to the dumbed down nuances placed upon her with increasing pressure by the U.S. market place? How much more does she have to consciously dumb herself down before America finally ‘gets’ the unfolding DL 3 campaign? And if she does respond to criticism by purposely dumbing herself down for the U.S. would her campaign simply end up being another bland U.S. pandering Marina type, “Love + Fear” marketing mess? Most non-Americans are sensing very little in the small flavors unfolding in the DL3 sonics and visuals (that separate it from FN). Since the U.S. market appears so hyper critical of everything she does from her already mentioned single choices to the storyboards of her videos, should Dua instead simply shrug her shoulders, decide the pressures placed on her by the U.S. audience are too great and simply ex-communicate the U.S. market entirely and instead focus on other large territories around the world who respond to her naturally (predominately Europe/ Japan). Then if anything does organically catch fire in the U.S. she will then have something to work with (if not, fine). With the pressure on newer artists to be fully developed before being launched and presented to the public (as Dua once was), is Dua now being punished by the U.S. market for demonstrating artistic growth? Alternatively, is there a level of sour grapes by Dua’s previous management team (TAP) directed at her when she left them? And is it possible that the onslaught in daily threads finding fault with the unfolding DL3 era, are not predominately coming from U.S. forum members but instead are being generated by intern, admin workers, disguised as forum members who in actuality are employed by TAP management and being instructed to actively cast negative PR and de-rail the DL3 campaign as an act of retaliation against Dua for daring to fire them? Discuss. 2 5 4 2
Popular Post Rotunda Posted February 19 Popular Post Posted February 19 Dua should not abandon the largest market because you’re annoyed at some ATRL threads, no. 2 3 35 1 1
byzantium Posted February 19 Posted February 19 9 minutes ago, Dante Silva said: Everyday the forum is filled with increasingly dumb threads Seems like an ATRL problem, not a Dua or US problem. 3 9
KOMH Posted February 19 Posted February 19 She has a 4x platinum album and the longest charting female song of all time in the US. Dance the Night was a hit with legs also. I think it's stupid to count her out because of 1 or 2 underperformances as this forum is doing. 6 1
Kern Posted February 19 Posted February 19 I’m from EU and I think TS sounds too similar to Don’t Start Now 1 1 1 6
Lemon Posted February 19 Posted February 19 She should have gone with becoming club queen a la Shygirl ( see and listen to mute as prime example and the whole Club Shy EP works too ) and that would be great musical evolution for her after Don’t Start Now, Hallucinate and Levitating. It is still not late for her to work with Shygirl on upcoming projects though. 1
Lemon Posted February 19 Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, stupidjock said: I’m from EU and I think TS sounds too similar to Don’t Start Now Training Season doesn’t have anything on Don’t Start Now though.
Khal Posted February 19 Posted February 19 (edited) Yes, Dua Lipa (an artist who obviously cares about commercial success) should abandon what is arguably the most profitable music market because her music (catch me or I go, Houdini) is too smart for US audiences Edited February 19 by Khal 4 9
MingYouToo Posted February 19 Posted February 19 a bunch of Top 40 hits does not make her a sudden flop. Houdini is a Top 20 hit and so is Training Season, 1 hit song can reverse all of this. Y'all acting like chart peaks are the end all be all for these artists A&R and behind the scenes, if they recuperate she'll keep going.
Kern Posted February 19 Posted February 19 1 minute ago, Lemon said: She should have gone with becoming club queen a la Shygirl ( see and listen to mute as prime example and the whole Club Shy EP works too ) and that would be great musical evolution for her after Don’t Start Now, Hallucinate and Levitating. It is still not late for her to work with Shygirl on upcoming projects though. I could totally see her doing a sexy album ala Erotica/WYP?/Club Shy. That would be a collapse and it would give her image more personality. 2
ontherocks Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Yes, of course. I hope she has read your OP and strikes action 8
Into The Void Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Houdini peaked at 11 on the Hot 100 and still charting. Some girls can't even peak inside the top 80. Stop with the nonsense 3
sunbathinganimal Posted February 19 Posted February 19 20 minutes ago, Dante Silva said: It is starting to feel like an avalanche of criticism, on a practically non existent basis. The criticisms of Dua generally appear to be from forum members who are known to be American and with the onslaught of each thread criticising her, it appears more and more that America simply does not ‘get’/ understand/ know how to interpret (or even process) a perceived shift in Dua’s music and visual aesthetic. Why should she be forced to neuter her sonic growth and artistic vision in order to bow down to the dumbed down nuances placed upon her with increasing pressure by the U.S. market? Most non-Americans are sensing very little in the small flavors unfolding in the DL3 sonics (that separate it from FN). Since the U.S. market appears so hyper critical of everything she does from her already mentioned single choices to the storyboards of her videos, should Dua instead simply shrug her shoulders, decide the pressures placed on her by the U.S. audience are too great and simply ex-communicate the U.S. market entirely and focus on other territories around the world (predominately Europe/ Japan). you're doing way too much for H&M changing room bops 10 1
Lemon Posted February 19 Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, stupidjock said: I could totally see her doing a sexy album ala Erotica/WYP?/Club Shy. That would be a collapse and it would give her image more personality. Agreed. I don’t know why she took left turn from the disco road when she could be chasing down some pretty nice house arrangements now. These new songs lack identity even though Houdini sounds cute production wise.
Bloodflowers. Posted February 19 Posted February 19 What is this thread? Dua should give us release date so we can pre-order album 1
Selegend Posted February 19 Posted February 19 lol??? Of course not. She sings pop songs in english and that got great consumption in the US. It's not like DSN and Levitating didn't smash in the USA like really what is this question There are some artists that should tho, like Anitta for example. She could've been way bigger in Latin America (not only Brazil) if she only focused on that and not in the USA with songs like Boys Dont Cry, Faking Love, Girl From Rio and etc, look at BELLAKEO charthing. And with that example u notice easily that it's a TOTAL different situation that do not apply, at all, to Dua Lipa. Her music is not latin, not indie and quite honestly not edgy like people are pretending Houdini/Training Season are. USA is one of if not THE biggest market for Miss Dua. 4
stjosephprey4us Posted February 19 Posted February 19 The song hasn’t even been out for a week Please stop with the think pieces (on both sides)
Devin Posted February 19 Posted February 19 abandon one of the largest markets in the music industry?
shyboi Posted February 19 Posted February 19 always doing the most when all is said and done, Dua will have a successful era, girls like her will always win
PoisonPill Posted February 19 Posted February 19 (edited) 14 minutes ago, sunbathinganimal said: you're doing way too much for H&M changing room bops Her H&M changing room era was 2016-2018, since then she’s served cohesive high quality pop! Edited February 19 by PoisonPill 1
Freakshowvato Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Training Sessions will be bigger than Houdini in the long-run, Im already hearing it on radios where I live and my city is usually ahead of what becomes hits. 3
Gladiator Posted February 19 Posted February 19 It might be time to abandon the gays. It would do her a lot of good. 2
glitch Posted February 19 Posted February 19 I don't think so no. She'll always sell more there if she markets and promotes there than if she doesn't. Plus a lot of other countries tune into American talk shows and events so she's kinda killing two birds with one stone. I don't think she should pander her music to a US taste but she hasn't ever really done that 1
MALAMENTE Posted February 19 Posted February 19 I mean no, but even if she did she has already achieved almost everything there is to achieve in the US: radio #1s, YE #1s, top 10s, top 3s, multiplatinum and diamond certifications, successful albums, grammys… Only thing left is a #1 single and album. She should be proud even if she doesn’t get more success there ever 2
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