official IFPI Global Charts 2023 | #1… Artist: Taylor Swift, Single: "Flowers", Album: 'FML'

[LastKiss]

9 minutes ago, Chartman said:

South America: Bad Bunny

He is from Puerto Rico which is part of North America 

[KOMH]

Catastrophic results for Olivia. Taylor #1 as expected

[mael]

Taylor and Lana my two faves 

[Cleanromantic]

It's always funny to see atrl up in arms about official, world-recognized organizations' list because they reveal how out of touch with reality they are and their fave pop girls are nowhere to be seen while artists that their cousin's best friend's coworker in a small village in Slovenia has never heard off are topping the list . Almost as funny as reading how the grammy's don't matter the entire year then them/ the entire internet spending a month melting down cause their fave didn't win 

[Feanor]

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In the coming days, IFPI will also release the IFPI Global Single Chart (15.00 GMT, 26th February 2024) and the IFPI Global Album Chart.

5 days from today.

[Moonlight Nation]

16 minutes ago, Feanor said:

5 days from today.

That's odd. Did last year also have a similar gap between these reveals?

 

Anyway, expecting "Flowers" to comfortably top the IFPI Global Single Chart, but hoping for "Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53" or "TQG" to sneak in and for The Weeknd to keep his impressive 2020s top 10 streak with either "Die For You" or "Creepin" (or both!). I wish Dua could also keep hers, but "Dance The Night" will be lucky to appear in the top 20.

[slimfem]

This is irrelevant, I can guarantee that the GP has no clue who any of those K-pop groups are.

[spiritboy]

Ed Sheeran at 11 in his flop eras 

[reymiu]

2 hours ago, JuanitoKasicki said:

the albums chart will be a joke 

 

these kpop bands that are unheard of outside of asia will win the #1 and #2, maybe even #3 albums because this doofus organization counts pure sales significantly higher than streams. so these lagging-behind markets that are still buying albums will win over artists from the rest of the world that have advanced into streaming, just because theyre lagging behind. 

Or maybe you could accept that Asia is a big market and we do have big stars ?

 

China is the biggest population on the Earth. You can check box office and see many big movies that are released exclusively in China & Asia.

 

Not everything involves around US & Westerners

[wish]

Lana absolutely stomped on the pop girls (sans Taylor) this year. Happy for her!

 

Olivia being OUT is just... I've been saying that she lost a ton of global power with Guts. Her US numbers are truly a facade.

[Cain]

2 hours ago, JuanitoKasicki said:

the albums chart will be a joke 

 

these kpop bands that are unheard of outside of asia will win the #1 and #2, maybe even #3 albums because this doofus organization counts pure sales significantly higher than streams. so these lagging-behind markets that are still buying albums will win over artists from the rest of the world that have advanced into streaming, just because theyre lagging behind. 

Asia literally has the biggest population on earth (by far), how would it be weird for acts popular in Asia to top these charts?

[unclefloprry]

It's obvious that some artists are inflated by their countries or regions, that's not a problem tbh 

The only problem is that they need to update their methodology, as they continue to downplay some regions in favor of others, specifically with the Latin market and the Asian market. Giving less value to the Latin region in their methodology despite having some of the biggest streaming markets in the world and at the same time give more value to the fake sales of one week in the Asian market. It's 2024 not 1999. 
At least give it a % similar to Asia, but I know they are afraid that their charts will be flooded with Latin artists.  

[Squall]

50 minutes ago, unclefloprry said:

It's obvious that some artists are inflated by their countries or regions, that's not a problem tbh 

The only problem is that they need to update their methodology, as they continue to downplay some regions in favor of others, specifically with the Latin market and the Asian market. Giving less value to the Latin region in their methodology despite having some of the biggest streaming markets in the world and at the same time give more value to the fake sales of one week in the Asian market. It's 2024 not 1999. 
At least give it a % similar to Asia, but I know they are afraid that their charts will be flooded with Latin artists.  

What evidence do you have about it? Because if Asian artists are flooding the list, I don't think they care about Latin artists doing so  

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Where tf is Shakira? 

[Reflektor_Creep]

Eminem #14 

[FolkLover1989]

1 hour ago, unclefloprry said:

It's obvious that some artists are inflated by their countries or regions, that's not a problem tbh 

The only problem is that they need to update their methodology, as they continue to downplay some regions in favor of others, specifically with the Latin market and the Asian market. Giving less value to the Latin region in their methodology despite having some of the biggest streaming markets in the world and at the same time give more value to the fake sales of one week in the Asian market. It's 2024 not 1999. 
At least give it a % similar to Asia, but I know they are afraid that their charts will be flooded with Latin artists.  

Streaming has tiers

Both Asian and Latin Am Streaming revenue is way less than USA. That's the reason Morgan is here.

Morgan has more paid streams than Bad Bunny despite Bad Bunny being 2nd most streamed artist last year.

 

This all is because Spotify and other apps are not priced at same rate in every company.

 

The Asia being high in charts is because of pure sales not Streaming 

[unclefloprry]

1 hour ago, Squall said:

What evidence do you have about it? Because if Asian artists are flooding the list, I don't think they care about Latin artists doing so  

Their old methodology was more acc because they only cared about physical, digital and streaming sales ww. So an album sale in Colombia was counted the same as an album sale in the UK or 1500 streams in Brazil = 1500 streams in the US. 

idk since what year they started a new methodology. They started to weight streaming, physical and digital sales acc  to the economy of each region, using the revenue from units sold, streams and more sht. Then they converted this into "units " (It's a little confusing) 

This new methodology using economics downplays some regions for obvious reasons. That's why you see an artist like Drake who most of his consumption comes from countries with cute economies (USA, CAN), above an artist like Bad Bunny who most of his consumption comes from Latin countries. Despite  their monstrous streaming numbers and null physical and digital sales are almost the same. 

Edited February 21 by unclefloprry

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Taylor 

 

Lana 

 

Talent winning, we love to see it 

[BrandNewBrandon]

On 2/19/2024 at 5:18 PM, family.guy123 said:

Taylor Swift just had the most dominant year in music we’ve ever seen. I’m legit terrified at the chart slayage we’re about to witness. I thought Cruel Summer going #1 was her peak but it just keeps getting worse and worse

If she's not #1 on both the songs chart and albums chart, how can it be more dominating than Adele's 21 era which was both #1 in song and album? And she was the artist that sold the most overall in 2011-12. 

[bad guy]

The strangest thing is Olivia being N/A during a whole album release. For perspective Billie was present 2019-2022 in the Top 20 (3 of those years in the Top 10), but SOUR success stans claimed she replaced Billie so this is quite interesting.

 

[family.guy123]

52 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

If she's not #1 on both the songs chart and albums chart, how can it be more dominating than Adele's 21 era which was both #1 in song and album? And she was the artist that sold the most overall in 2011-12. 

There’s no way she won’t be #1 on both after the year she’s had.

[family.guy123]

She’ll have multiple song entries if not #1. It’s impossible for her not to after having the most successful year of all time. 
 

you’re right though, both things can’t be true 

[BrandNewBrandon]

7 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

There’s no way she won’t be #1 on both after the year she’s had.

 

6 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

She’ll have multiple song entries if not #1. It’s impossible for her not to after having the most successful year of all time. 
 

you’re right though, both things can’t be true 

That's the thing. So did Adele. Adele had the #1 song and another smash and another. All in one year while having THE #1 album and being the #1 artist. Taylor will most likely miss out on the #1 song so already there is she trailing behind Adele and if she doesn't go #1 on the album chart then it's not even close to Adele. 

 

This is the thing about this narrative that it's an all-time high for a female. It's not. Adele reigned at #1 on every possible metric from the IFPI, Taylor likely won't. 

[corotinho]

It has nothing to do with Asia’s population. It’s about how some group of fans mass buy the kpop albums and how their labels mass ship those albums and buy it themselves. 
 

The only kpop act on this top that really made it to the GP was NewJeans with those TikTok hits.

Edited February 22 by corotinho

[By the Water]

13 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

 

That's the thing. So did Adele. Adele had the #1 song and another smash and another. All in one year while having THE #1 album and being the #1 artist. Taylor will most likely miss out on the #1 song so already there is she trailing behind Adele and if she doesn't go #1 on the album chart then it's not even close to Adele. 

 

This is the thing about this narrative that it's an all-time high for a female. It's not. Adele reigned at #1 on every possible metric from the IFPI, Taylor likely won't. 

Taylor had the highest grossing tour of all time and a box office smash on top of all her sales and streams. Not everything is about quick little singles but I don't expect a Lady Gaga fan to understand that