applestar Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Theyre untalented and have nothing special about them
KOMH Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Not everyone can be a Taylor or Beyoncé and smash with multiple genres across 3 different decades
visions Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Not Miley’s 13th album (inc. HM) being compared to the new girls’ sophomores 4
Gesi Posted February 18 Posted February 18 2 hours ago, FolkLover1989 said: Smashing list Taylor SZA Beyoncé this era It seems good enough to me I don't want to sound mean but I don't hear any song in Albania from them. Strange 2
liquiddiamonds Posted February 18 Posted February 18 (edited) All for different reasons and none flopping: - Ariana has a pop/R&B fanbase and she basically ditched the sound for her lead. If she has R&B-tinged music in the album she will be fine as long as it clicks with them. Don’t know if the scandal is currently impacting her performance; - Dua might have reached GP fatigue with her sound (80s pop and disco seem to be on the way out), because she didn’t stay out of the spotlight for too long and Dance the Night became a major hit right before she launched her new era, which is not so far apart in genre, more in mood and execution. Her songs are getting the right push, but promo has been confusing too. The songs aren’t clicking with straights as much as her previous hits and there’s little we gays can do; - Billie and Olivia both were at the heart of the pop zeitgeist with their debuts. Billie had competition from Olivia during HTE and the messy single choices didn’t help her. People are coming around to it and title track is a classic already. What was I Made For has reconnected her to radio and the GP. I think BE3 can be massive. Olivia faced even stronger competition from Taylor. GUTS didn’t reach SOUR heights, but she’s still basically the only top 40 pop girl still going strong in the american album charts not named Taylor and Vampire has shown great longevity. She’s fine for now. I think she did good in face of a juggernaut year for Taylor, someone that she shares a lot of the same audience with and they clearly are giving Taylor most of their time now. - Miley didn’t have the right album to back Flowers up. If ESV had more songs in that vein and more candid lines about her relationship we would been having a different conversation. River killed the momentum, Used to Be Young came too late to relaunch an era and she never left her house to promote the album until Grammy night (and the promo worked once she did!) - Drake is now synonymous with bloated albums. His fans pick and choose what they like and stick to it, so it never lasts past the few weeks for him these days until the hits carry the project. having said that they are all doing fine. it can get worrying once they fail to score songs in the upper middle of the charts and fail to go gold, but they are in a place where platinum albums and at least one hit single are still happening Edited February 18 by liquiddiamonds 4
superben Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Billie changed her style and image way too soon after her debut album. I guess she just preferred taking risk and making the music that she enjoys.
Devin Posted February 18 Posted February 18 every artist declines or underperforms. one min ur hot the next day ur not. its the way of the music industry – it mirrors the same behavior in the fashion industry. 2
Abracadabra Posted February 18 Posted February 18 2 hours ago, PrudenceHCharmed said: That's why you have to step out of your comfort zone and come up with something innovative and tries different sound. There's no way Billie can whisper form her first album to her tenth album and expect the same commerical performance. That's why B, Rih, Taylor always succeed. If it wasn't for Sasha Fierce, we wouldn't have the Globalyonce. If it wasn't for ST we wouldn't have the Legendyonce. If Rihanna didn't go the Good Girl Gone Bad route, she would've been dropped by her label. Taylor will remain local if she stay singing Speak Now. Why would Rihanna's label have dropped her if she hadn't released GGGB? She already had several smashes before that (PDR, SOS, Unfaithful) and was already very globally successful. 1
The Music Industry Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Taylor Swift is sucking up all of the success juice
JonginBey Posted February 18 Posted February 18 I’m still in shock by Ed’s situation I mean, I personally checked out from his music after Divide, but he still had the world in a chokehold. Not to mention his last tour grossed nearly $800M, and his current one seems on track to do the same with less dates. All that, yet no one cared for his last two albums.
State of Grace. Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Every single artist mentioned in the OP sans Ed is doing fine, and even he is touring stadiums and could easily smash again if he goes back to his usual sound. This "if you're not #1 or #2 then you're flopping" logic is dumb as hell 3 1
Gerardo Posted February 18 Posted February 18 6 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Every single artist mentioned in the OP sans Ed is doing fine, and even he is touring stadiums and could easily smash again if he goes back to his usual sound. This "if you're not #1 or #2 then you're flopping" logic is dumb as hell You wrote everything I was gonna say 2
poki Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Most artists only last like 3 years in the spotlight so it makes sense most of the 2019/2020 crowd is on its way out. Taylor so far is on a Madonna trajectory in terms of multi-decade success. 1
worldwide angel Posted February 18 Posted February 18 a combination of oversaturation of everything really and abnormal expectations....a song didn't have to go number one or even top ten to be considered a hit and now if a song isn't a multi week #1, its not considered a hit
John Slayne Posted February 18 Posted February 18 not everyone can have a smash hit like Madonna with Popular in their 5th decade 1
Lemon Posted February 18 Posted February 18 (edited) 5 hours ago, Gesi said: I don't want to sound mean but I don't hear any song in Albania from them. Strange Serbia has Play radio station that plays mostly international current music, so we hear that here. Either way, neither Albania nor Serbia are relevant for the global music market, so this statement is senseless at best and can’t be really used to measure success of stars that are present on the worldwide scene either way. Edited February 18 by Lemon
Mocha Posted February 18 Posted February 18 (edited) i really think it has to do with music from the past being so accessible and people finding comfort in listening to the artists they grew up with , and tbh i am guilty of that too. Edited February 18 by Mocha
45seconds Posted February 19 Posted February 19 10 hours ago, superben said: Billie changed her style and image way too soon after her debut album. I guess she just preferred taking risk and making the music that she enjoys. Her image is actually her tho. That’s what I don’t think people understand. Her image was some sad teenager because she was some sad teenager. Then she wasn’t sad anymore.
Bethenny Frankel Posted February 19 Posted February 19 why is miley in this convo when she got the biggest smash of her career last era and another top 10 with used to be young??? dua will be fine, time is always the ultimate truth teller with her.
Relampago. Posted February 19 Posted February 19 15 hours ago, Klein said: It's just getting harder and harder to keep the public's interest because of the sheer amount of music we have access to. This is the real answer Monoculture is basically dead. It’s hard to get a massive hit that everyone listens to now since songs are so easy to come by now and to pick and choose whatever you want to specifically listen to. As long as songs are smashing with their intended audiences then it’s all good. The one exception is Ms. Swift, who is obviously an anomaly compared to most artists.
DoubleRainbow! Posted February 19 Posted February 19 I think Taylor is the problem for all the other female artists
playwithme Posted February 19 Posted February 19 ESV underperformed, but claiming that Miley flopped is a huge stretch. Flowers is bigger than most pop girls' entire eras.
SpaceOddity Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Stan Twitter and chart accounts have genuinely rotted your brains and killed some of you all's ability to listen to music just cause you enjoy it. 3
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