Peak Now Posted February 18 Posted February 18 We kinda need to stop calling eras "underperformances" just because they didn't reach their multiple-smash-hits-record-breaking previous era tbh of course Guts wasn't gonna live up to the moments that were DL and G4U, Nadie Sabe wasn't gonna have insane UVST-stability, etc. That's why re-peaks like Emancipation, ASIB and I daresay Midnights are so widely discussed; because they're rare. And of course media fragmentation stuff doesn't help. Not sure what Miley Cyrus is doing here when she's arguably had her most successful era since Bangerz with ESV. No excuses for Happier Than Ever though, that was just bungled 5
SpaceOddity Posted February 18 Posted February 18 What this forum fails to understand over and over again is that the industry, consumption and focus when it comes to music has changed yet so many of you still want to apply the same metric and goalposts from three decades ago. 9 1
ForgottenSoul Posted February 18 Posted February 18 I think people dont know what flopping is anymore..
professor2000 Posted February 18 Posted February 18 1 hour ago, Johnny Jacobs said: OT: The music ain't it. The pop girls are mostly lazy now. The promo ain't promoing. We need Rihanna “Get your ******* ass up and work! It just seems like nobody wants to WORK these days.”
OrgVisual Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Because ATRL has an unrealistic expectation of "flopping" None of the artists u mentioned are flopping except for Ed Sheeran whose last album tanked 5
Polgg48 Posted February 18 Posted February 18 fatigue capitalism in effect, creativity is gone with tiktok 1 min songs, sample everywhere, everything been there done there, same artists over and over again, etc. current meta is americana/country and expect another waves of yeehaw songs in chart for another year.
byzantium Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Guts is still one of the must successful MPG albums of recent memory and it’s still getting over 7m streams a day (prior to the tour!). I swear y’all would have been out here in 2006 calling B’day a flop because it was not as big as DIL and in 2010 calling Speak Now a flop because it was not as big as Fearless. Commercial peaks change all the time, what matters is you are building a loyal fanbase and thus market for your music. This is why artists like Billie, Olivia, and Lana are doing perfectly fine. However, I do have a little bit of concern about Doja and Dua. Doja ended up getting two solid hits from her record so she is fine, but Dua's position seems more precarious 4 1
PrudenceHCharmed Posted February 18 Posted February 18 That's why you have to step out of your comfort zone and come up with something innovative and tries different sound. There's no way Billie can whisper form her first album to her tenth album and expect the same commerical performance. That's why B, Rih, Taylor always succeed. If it wasn't for Sasha Fierce, we wouldn't have the Globalyonce. If it wasn't for ST we wouldn't have the Legendyonce. If Rihanna didn't go the Good Girl Gone Bad route, she would've been dropped by her label. Taylor will remain local if she stay singing Speak Now.
dirrtydiana Posted February 18 Posted February 18 2 hours ago, Johnny Jacobs said: No it’s true the pandemic and streaming really made most people realize what really matters: concerts
Bussea Posted February 18 Posted February 18 (edited) everyone’s lazy and the music quality is lacking + not every needs to smash and is going to smash. Edited February 18 by Cult Leader 𐕣𐕣 2
Freakshowvato Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Taylor's albums are the only thing not flopping lmao. But I agree with your sentiment, there is no longer consistency in the established hit makers
Johnny Jacobs Posted February 18 Posted February 18 26 minutes ago, professor2000 said: “Get your ******* ass up and work! It just seems like nobody wants to WORK these days.” 2
Funnyfatty Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Because there is this idea and attitude where the girls think its cool to say that they don’t care. Idk but when an artist say “i dont care” well bich i don’t too. if you don’t do your job properly i’m not going to give it the credit. The laziness of most artists is just unacceptable. If it was 2012 or something Ariana would have performed her lead single on the grammies for example and much more artist would. The idc behaviour is cringe.
Popboi. Posted February 18 Posted February 18 GP’s attention span is very little right now, most albums only get one or two hits at most and that’s it. Paired with big streams for other tracks if the artist is big and cute pure sales for a week if the fandom is big as well. Taylor is very much the only anomaly to that right now.
Solaria Posted February 18 Posted February 18 ATRL thinks every era has to be Teenage Dream sized to be a smash. That has never been the case, not even with previous MPGs. Britney didn’t have a No.1 hit between 1999-2007 until Womanizer, Gaga didn’t have a true smash hit after Born This Way until Shallow. Back to back smashes aren’t a thing anymore. There’s too much music and too many consumers these days. Things aren’t focused on just a couple of artists anymore, it’s spread across pop, R&B, hip hop, country, etc. 4
Alex Posted February 18 Posted February 18 I'm more shocked Doja Cat was able to smash during her hatetrain era and others can't even do it on a good day! Time the ultimate truth teller 3 1 1
ToraeGilt Posted February 18 Posted February 18 This post is so unserious. GUTS is not flopping by any means. Sour was a monster of an era, and it’s not fair to think she’ll match it. 1
Lose My Breath Posted February 18 Posted February 18 10 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: This post is so unserious. GUTS is not flopping by any means. Sour was a monster of an era, and it’s not fair to think she’ll match it. I agree, and Dua is doing fine, too, same with Ariana. Just because they're not setting streaming records doesn't mean that they aren't hitting. 3
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