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[Jjang]

18 minutes ago, Aristotle said:

What are those percentages nonsense? If someone commits homicide in Iceland is that equivalent to like a serial killer in America because the population is bigger?

Such an unnecessary and stupid remark.

 

comparing a population of 2.3m to 9m is not as absurd as comparing a population of 350m to 370k. Yes, that doesn't mean it's 100% an accurate mathematical equivalent but it gives you a general idea of the level of destruction. which was the point you so passionately wanted to miss.

 

13 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

 

Real genocide is not happening but are you really arguing that not Hamas's goal? Iran goal? Hezbollah goal?  If you think Israel is really doing genocide then surely you must think that's their goal also right? 

 

Sure you would yet most of you people caring about this conflict didn't care about Yemen at all? 

 

My only account and are only pro-Hamas or pro-Palestine views allowed?  

 

I believe in a two-state solution but that can only happen when Hamas is mostly gone and when Isreal current government is gone, I still dont think Israel goal is to genocide all Palestine people. 

genocide doesn't mean 100% of the population dies and once again, if you genuinely care: you're more than free to watch the ICJ's initial ruling as they specifically answer all your questions. I'm not giving you the privilege of being lazy. 

Edited February 7 by Jjang

[Aethereal]

7 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Such an unnecessary and stupid remark.

 

comparing a population of 2.3m to 9m is not as absurd as comparing a population of 350m to 370k. Yes, that doesn't mean it's 100% an accurate mathematical equivalent but it gives you a general idea of the level of destruction.

 

Dead people are dead people, there is no need to bring percentage in this or the Ukrainian war. Bear in mind that 6,000 Jews died in 1947 war when the State of Israel had only 600,000 Jews, are you gonna claim that is equivalent what has happened to Gaza in the past three months because the percentage is similar?

Edited February 7 by Aristotle

[Communion]

1 minute ago, Psylocke said:

Pro Israel propaganda? Where? Te thread is about what was said from Egypt's president. I didn't add anything else.

 

If you're so desperate to go digging for posts and that was the best you could find, maybe you should considering you're just projecting.

 

Here, let me help with one you might like:

 

Or wait, there was some conspiracy as to why I posted that and somehow I was actually sharing Israel propaganda there too? 

 

Is someone meant to be moved that your tone has changed after 3 months where 30,000 people have been murdered? "I was just quoting what Egypt said". No, you editorialized the officials comment from "Israel should host Gaza's refugees' to "Send them to the dessert". Why did you feel the need to do that?

 

If you understand that your previous support for Israel was so shameful that your views required changing, and you're too embarrassed now to even own up to supporting said propaganda, surely you should have a sense that whatever preconceived notions you have on other subjects also require self-reflection, no?

 

Are you going to feel any sense of remorse about having wasted your time talking about hot pirates when Israel slaughters another 30k people?

[Communion]

2 minutes ago, Aristotle said:

Dead people are dead people, there is no need to bring percentage in this 

"This was Israel's 9/11" 

[Psylocke]

7 minutes ago, Communion said:

Is someone meant to be moved that your tone has changed after 3 months where 30,000 people have been murdered? "I was just quoting what Egypt said". No, you editorialized the officials comment from "Israel should host Gaza's refugees' to "Send them to the dessert". Why did you feel the need to do that?

 

If you understand that your previous support for Israel was so shameful that your views required changing, and you're too embarrassed now to even own up to supporting said propaganda, surely you should have a sense that whatever preconceived notions you have on other subjects also require self-reflection, no?

 

Are you going to feel any sense of remorse about having wasted your time talking about hot pirates when Israel slaughters another 30k people?

I didn't change my tone because there was nothing to change. No "support or propaganda", you're the one foaming at the mouth and making up things that I never said or did. I don't even know who tf you are so this is confusing.

 

And nice deflection but I'm still waiting for those posts I apparently liked blaming Egypt for whatever was you said I did with your buzz words. 

Edited February 7 by Psylocke

[Sheep]

32 minutes ago, Communion said:

 

 

@Sheep I believe OP wouldn't have gotten the negative assumptions he did if he had not previously shared pro-Israel propaganda like the above thresd and liked several posts trying to shift the blame of Israel trying to ethnically cleanse Gaza onto Egypt. @Psylocke Do you think Yemen or Egypt will be able to socially progress if forced to take on 2M Gazan refugees like Israel is orchestrating and for which you seemingly don't view them as responsible for?

Okay I see more plainly now what's going on. Thank you for pointing out this pattern and being reasonable.

[ForgottenSoul]

14 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Such an unnecessary and stupid remark.

 

comparing a population of 2.3m to 9m is not as absurd as comparing a population of 350m to 370k. Yes, that doesn't mean it's 100% an accurate mathematical equivalent but it gives you a general idea of the level of destruction. which was the point you so passionately wanted to miss.

 

genocide doesn't mean 100% of the population dies and once again, if you genuinely care: you're more than free to watch the ICJ's initial ruling as they specifically answer all your questions. I'm not giving you the privilege of being lazy. 

I never said genocide means all die at once but as I said with the amount of rockets Israel fires if they wanted to genocide the deaths would be bigger. Gaza is very condensed.

 

Palestine and its allies decades ago tried to genocide Israel and failed. If were going by % more Jews died during that then the % of Palestine people died currently.. 

Edited February 7 by ForgottenSoul

[VOSS]

40 minutes ago, Communion said:

My favorite thing about liberals and liberalism is large is basically that language means nothing. 

 

As seen with this post here. 

 

You in one context believe people not supporting bombing Yemen is material "support" for Yemen's conservative government (or even worse - people on Twitter finding a random civilian hot also being material support).

 

But then at the same time, you say America supplying Israel with the bombs they drop on Gaza is somehow not the US materially supporting the genocide. 

 

But you can fantastically and passionately use this language like as though your ideas rooted in fantasy are reality. That social media clout can be more material to enable death than shipments of weapons. 

 

Does that make sense? Do you think your posts make sense when you suggest these things?

You’re really one to talk about “fantastic and passionate” language usage

[Jjang]

10 minutes ago, Aristotle said:

Dead people are dead people, there is no need to bring percentage in this or the Ukrainian war. 

except I'm not just talking about the nearly 40,000 people so far who have been murdered due to direct Israeli aggression. I'm also talking about the genocidal act of forcibly displacing and starving an entire people (100% in mathematical terms!) which would mean the exact numbers I posted for Israelis. Nice try though. 

[Aethereal]

4 minutes ago, Jjang said:

except I'm not just talking about the nearly 40,000 people so far who have been murdered due to direct Israeli aggression. I'm also talking about the genocidal act of forcibly displacing and starving an entire people (100% in mathematical terms!) which would mean the exact numbers I posted for Israelis. Nice try though. 

Nothing justifies the killings of 25,000 people especially 10,000 children, I just pointed out your argument was dumb. The same can be said for those who claimed 1,000 dead Israelis in  October 7th is equivalent to 50,000 dead Americans in an earlier argument. (yes this was said outside of this forum though) 

 

Admit you were wrong and move on.

Edited February 7 by Aristotle

[Jjang]

Just now, Aristotle said:

Nothing justify the killings of 25,000 people especially 10,000 children, I just pointed out your argument was dumb. The same can be said for those who claimed 1,000 dead Israelis in  October 7th  is equivalent to 50,000 Americans in an earlier. (yes this was said outside of this forum though) 

 

Admit you were wrong and move on.

The only dumb thing is your presence in this thread + the majority of your braindead comments in the Palestine/Israel thread. 

 

100% of Gaza's population has been intentionally and deliberately forcibly displaced and starved. 100% means 100%. Had they been 5 million people then all 5 million would have been starved and displaced as well. Hence the percentage comparison. Now go find some other issue to pretend to care about cause this one is not working for you. 

[Aethereal]

  And if South Israel was as densely populated as Tel Aviv the number of dead in Oct 7th would be over 3,000.

Edited February 7 by Aristotle

[Jjang]

what a loser 

[Jjang]

5 minutes ago, Aristotle said:

  And if South Israel was as densely populated as Tel Aviv the number of dead in Oct 7th would be over 3,000.

what's the equivalent of 100% of all Israelis being starved and displaced? quick! 

Edited February 7 by Jjang

[Jjang]

43 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

I never said genocide means all die at once but as I said with the amount of rockets Israel fires if they wanted to genocide the deaths would be bigger. Gaza is very condensed.

Israel's objective is to ethnically cleanse Palestinians out of Gaza and bring the destruction of their society there (in order to pave the way for Israeli control) and for that, you don't need to kill every single one of them. You just need to make Gaza an inhabitable city - and I think cutting off water, food, electricity, medicine, and communication for 100% of its population is a good start. Maybe destroy 60%+ of their homes and the majority of their hospitals, universities, and schools as a means to destroy all life and community sources there - which all amounts to genocide btw! 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 7 by Jjang

[ForgottenSoul]

19 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Israel's objective is to ethnically cleanse Palestinians out of Gaza and bring the destruction of their society there (in order to pave the way for Israeli control) and for that, you don't need to kill every single one of them. You just need to make Gaza an inhabitable city - and I think cutting off water, food, electricity, medicine, and communication for 100% of its population is a good start. Maybe destroy 60%+ of their homes and the majority of their hospitals, universities, and schools as a means to destroy all life and community sources there - which all amounts to genocide btw! 

 

 

 

 

 

ethnically cleansing does not equal genocide, I mean based on what you said Israel was giving them water, food, and electricity? Seems weird if they wanted to genocide them..  You should just think to yourself self why does no Arab country accept refugees from there? FYI aid is also coming from the Israeli side into Gaza which seems weird.. thought they wanted genocide. Everything is genocide apparently. 

 

Israel's objective is to stop its citizens from having to deal with rocket attacks on the daily

[Jjang]

4 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

ethnically cleansing does not equal genocide, I mean based on what you said Israel was giving them water, food, and electricity? Seems weird if they wanted to genocide them..  You should just think to yourself self why does no Arab country accept refugees from there? FYI aid is also coming from the Israeli side into Gaza which seems weird.. thought they wanted genocide. Everything is genocide apparently. 

 

Israel's objective is to stop its citizens from having to deal with rocket attacks on the daily

I can help you recite the remaining moot and dumb Zionist talking points if that's what you came here to do 

Edited February 7 by Jjang

[Samsara]

6 hours ago, Hurem said:

Religion is the root of all evil

Yes, religion is the root of all evil. Gotta love and emulate those peaceful, idyllic, utopian atheist societies which are beacons of human rights and technological progress. Oh wait, there is none. Every self-declared atheist, anti-religious state has fared far worse.

[ZeroSuitBritney]

This is terrible. It is safe to say all countries are disgusting and backwards in one way or another. No country is perfect, definitely not Israel, Yemen, America. However, it is important to give kudos to a country when they are one of the few countries that are actively trying to stop a live-streamed genocide from continuing. Middle eastern countries definitely need to catch up with social and diversity issues. 

[Sannie]

22 hours ago, Sheep said:

The mental gymnastics in this thread trying to justify murdering of our people makes me so sad. Not everything needs to be about taking a stance on a larger(usually unrelated) issue. How could you downplay your own people being killed because some other people are being slaughtered in mass numbers?  MAGA logic.  Two things can be bad and also be causing different degrees of harm in the world.

Well, it is all about virtue signaling. The very leftists who have decided they now love the Houthis are not talking about this because it does not fit their narrative. They will never admit anything bad about the Houthis because "Houthis hate Jews and America" and that falls in line with their ideology.

 

Maybe had they done a tad bit of research about the group they decided to jump in with, they would have already known how horrific they are and how they stand for everything leftists have, for years, claimed to be against. But they do not care. As long as they can pretend to care about Palestinians, that is all that matters.

Edited February 8 by Sannie

[Communion]

29 minutes ago, Sannie said:

Well, it is all about virtue signaling

Liberals > "You support Yemen not being bombed but they hate gay people. This is virtue signaling!"

 

Also Liberals > "Why can't I enjoy and promote the fact that Israel has gay pride parades just because they're committing genocide??? So we can't acknowledge good things a nation does if it also does bad things???"

 

Forced re-education to eradicate liberalism is maybe a good thing. 

[State of Grace.]

1 hour ago, Sannie said:

Well, it is all about virtue signaling. The very leftists who have decided they now love the Houthis are not talking about this because it does not fit their narrative. They will never admit anything bad about the Houthis because "Houthis hate Jews and America" and that falls in line with their ideology.

Who is this "they" exactly? We want names missy! because as far as I'm seeing, absolutely no "leftist!!!" on this website claimed that they love Houthis or that they're good guys or that they haven't been committing absolutely terrible crimes without any global coverage (that's a whole other topic).

 

Most people here literally don't even know what the **** is happening Yemen and don't give a flying **** about the queer community there or anywhere in the Middle East. They're just being used as a cheap, weird, and disgusting "gotcha" moment against leftists/pro-Palestine folks.