Kiss It Better Posted January 30 Posted January 30 as much as i do want her to say it too as her power might actually help something to be done about it, but she's in the middle of a world tour right now that's still going on until the end of the year and that'd just be a very unsafe environment for her and everyone attending her concerts 3 1
thisbirdhasflown Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dialamba said: I don’t think she should be pressured because if she cared she’d say a long time ago. Right, at this point everybody who’s been silent should just stay silent because you clearly don’t care. This has been the top news story in the world for months. This didn’t just happen a couple of days ago, not giving Taylor enough time to educate herself. If she said anything now, it would be so disingenuous. Edited January 30 by thisbirdhasflown
thisbirdhasflown Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, AndThenTheCocaine said: Where's that tweet that goes "if Taylor speaks out against the war peace would be achieved immediately"? Cuz this is what it's giving If she gave a damn, she could simply tell her fans to donate to the UNRWA, which just had its funding cut off by the US and most of Europe and won’t be able to operate past February because of it. But we all know the capitalist queen would rather her stans save that money for the next time she releases 7366288374672 versions of the same album. Edited January 30 by thisbirdhasflown 1 1 1
Solaria Posted January 30 Posted January 30 It would be nice but you guys need to understand that Taylor is definitely 100 % not well enough informed on this topic then certain ATRLers here are. She’s not just gonna say ‘Free Palestine’ and risk backlash from the other side. It’s sad but most A-List celebrities don’t get further than saying ‘we need peace and a ceasefire’ 3
shookspeare Posted January 30 Posted January 30 I appreciate that she mostly stays out of politics, and the actual GP that isn't terminally online does too. let me go stream evermore 1
Windy Day Posted January 30 Posted January 30 19 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: And how did that help at all? that was in 2014 when the public knew even less about what is happening over there and rihanna wasn’t as famous and rich as she is now and isn’t taylor swift also the most famous and influential person in the united states / the world (according to her fans, not trying to start a fanwar). she has a platform that could change a lot of thing for the good but she isn’t doing anything :/
OnikaSlays Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) 4 hours ago, Carry My Heart said: Taylor isn't gonna risk facing corporate pushback for speaking out in favor of Palestine like the few celebs who have. Because of her current stature, any statement she makes, even the most mundane, becomes a focal point of discourse in the mainstream media. She cares about her career too much to get behind something that could interfere with it. And this right here is the problem. It took her 4 years to even denounce Trump and come out in support of BLM, because it was safe to do so then. Edited January 30 by OnikaSlays
wildsidenormani Posted January 30 Posted January 30 And risk alienating the vast majority of her audience who are pro-Israel?
Badgalbriel Posted January 30 Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, Windy Day said: that was in 2014 when the public knew even less about what is happening over there and rihanna wasn’t as famous and rich as she is now and isn’t taylor swift also the most famous and influential person in the united states / the world (according to her fans, not trying to start a fanwar). she has a platform that could change a lot of thing for the good but she isn’t doing anything :/ Seu you mean to tell me Rihanna did nothing since the war started?
Windy Day Posted January 30 Posted January 30 34 minutes ago, EndofASadMovie said: The topic is about pop girls. Keep it up. I'm not the one with an unhealthy obsession with making everything about race. If you're gonna call out pop girls (american) possibly endorsing Biden for the next election, you could've just said that. But you have to remind people that white people are evil. Ariana has liked pro Palestine posts. Taylor and Selena have attended a pro-palestine event. I don't recall seeing Rihanna and Beyonce doing anything recently and no a Rihanna tweet that was tweeted and deleted a decade ago doesn't count. selena literally said she doesnt give a **** about palestine and has been spotted with israeli flags lmfao get the **** away from me i make this about race because IT IS. an ethnic cleansing is happening and white people are mostly staying silent about it brown public figure have been painted as TERRORISTS because they support palestinians but you expect us to not go after privileged white people with much more power, money and influence when they decide to stay silent?? 1 2
Badgalbriel Posted January 30 Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, OnikaSlays said: And this right here is the problem. I think the problem is your username, OnikaSlays 4 7
Windy Day Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) 1 minute ago, Badgalbriel said: Seu you mean to tell me Rihanna did nothing since the war started? why are yall changing the goal post to black people all of the sudden? all i did was pointing out how white celebrities have mostly stayed awfully silent when they have the most privileges to speak up without big repercussions Edited January 30 by Windy Day
Badgalbriel Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Just now, Windy Day said: why are yall changing the goal post to black people all of the sudden? You are the one that literally said she did and it turns out she didn't. Rihanna is just as big of a celebrity as Taylor. And so is Beyoncé. There's no reason to single out one of them. 1
Selegend Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) well to be honest it took a LONG TIME until people started this. taylor has an OUT OF THIS WORLD success, she's the biggest, it never made sense to keep on other artists mentions/nerves/comments and not hers. after all she is the biggest. with that said, she shouldn't say anything. everything she says will be taken out of context. it's a lose-lose situation for her and for every artist that say anything. the most she should/could do is to share educative links/articles about the situation with a not pro-israel propaganda. that would be great other than that, she shouldn't do anything. Edited January 30 by Selegend
Windy Day Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Just now, Badgalbriel said: You are the one that literally said she did and it turns out she didn't. Rihanna is just as big of a celebrity as Taylor. And so is Beyoncé. There's no reason to single out one of them. are they times magazine’s person of the year who can influence 18% of american voters?
OnikaSlays Posted January 30 Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Badgalbriel said: I think the problem is your username, OnikaSlays Um… whatever that means I guess Onika has nothing to do with your fave’s complicity and refusal to use her platform as the biggest celebrity in the world for good.
Badgalbriel Posted January 30 Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, OnikaSlays said: Um… whatever that means I guess Onika has nothing to do with your fave’s complicity and refusal to use her platform as the biggest celebrity in the world for good. At least she's not using her platform like your fave is, uh?
OnikaSlays Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Just now, Badgalbriel said: At least she's not using her platform like your fave is, uh? These deflective responses aren’t eating like you think they are, but go off.
Jjang Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jay07 said: Terminally online keyboard "activists" are not the GP. In fact, this poll says the American public is pro-Israel rather overwhelmingly (65%). https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/12/08/americans-views-of-the-israel-hamas-war/ the boomers are. 18-40’s majority are pro-Palestine. Plus, you’re completely ignoring the crucial context of Israel’s rapid loss in support over the recent years. Public opinion as a whole (esp. in a place as wild as America) does not change over night. Anyway, you trying to dismiss the Palestine issue as some online issue that carries no weight in real life is embarrassing as hell. OT - she should say something. one of her best friends is literally Palestinian. But she wont say anything that would cost her any sort of price to pay. We know she’s a capitalist queen like that. Edited January 30 by Jjang 8 1
Shelter Posted January 30 Posted January 30 She would never. She would be advised not to. She won’t get involved with Biden vs Trump election either.
Peak Now Posted January 30 Posted January 30 26 minutes ago, thisbirdhasflown said: If she gave a damn, she could simply tell her fans to donate to the UNRWA, which just had its funding cut off by the US and most of Europe and won’t be able to operate past February because of it. But we all know the capitalist queen would rather her stans save that money for the next time she releases 7366288374672 versions of the same album. This is exactly what I'm talking about lol-- when politicians fail to do their jobs some people's first response isn't "well maybe politicians should do their jobs!" but "why aren't celebrities doing their work for them???" I know we all justifiably have not a lot of faith left in our political leaders, but all this rhetoric is just helping them evade their responsibilities even more.
latingrl2005 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, Jjang said: the boomers are. 18-40’s majority are pro-Palestine. Plus, you’re completely ignoring the crucial context of Israel’s rapid loss in support over the recent years. Public opinion as a whole (esp. in a place as wild as America) does not change over night. Anyway, you trying to dismiss the Palestine as some online issue that carries no weight in real life is embarrassing as hell. OT - she should say something. one of her best friends is literally Palestinian. But she wont say anything that would cost her any sort of price to pay. We know she’s a capitalist queen like that. And her other close friend is Jewish. So, should she come for Jack to save Gigi? 1
Popboi. Posted January 30 Posted January 30 The same reason it took Halsey a long time to speak up when she’s very vocal about politics and social issues, fear. If Taylor were to say anything she would become a focus point of threats and that’s not only putting her at risk, but the millions of people that will see her tour this year as well If there’s ANY risk for fans for her speaking up, she won’t, not in a post Ariana Manchester world. 1
thisbirdhasflown Posted January 30 Posted January 30 1 minute ago, AndThenTheCocaine said: This is exactly what I'm talking about lol-- when politicians fail to do their jobs some people's first response isn't "well maybe politicians should do their jobs!" but "why aren't celebrities doing their work for them???" I know we all justifiably have not a lot of faith left in our political leaders, but all this rhetoric is just helping them evade their responsibilities even more. We can do more than one thing at the same time. This is a Taylor Swift topic on a pop culture site, so she’s the focus. Billionaires shouldn’t be let off the hook. But like I said in my other post, I’m not holding my breath for Taylor to say anything. If she genuinely cared, she already would have.
Windy Day Posted January 30 Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, Shelter said: She would never. She would be advised not to. She won’t get involved with Biden vs Trump election either. which is why it is in my opinion easier to digest that taylor won’t use her huge platform compared to someone like gaga (one of my faves) who’s been completely silent despite being extremely involved in politics
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