celeb news Taylor Swift has generated $330M+ for the NFL in brand value since September

[shimind]

35 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

You literally have no comparisons to draw from because no other pop girl has ever dated and attended their beau's football games during her peak popularity in music history. 

 

Madonna dating Joe Montana in the 80s and attending all of his games or Lady Gaga dating Tom Brady in 2010 or Britney dating Peyton Manning in the 2000s would've been the equivalent to what Taylor is doing now. 

 

That's like saying she's NOT the biggest artist of all time because she's NOT generating more dollars in toys like Britney. 

What? this is news to me

[Raspberries]

The only people you can argue that were more famous in the US ever are Elvis, Michael Jackson and The Beatles

[Raspberries]

4 minutes ago, shimind said:

What? this is news to me

Because it never happened Tom was married to Giselle then. That person is saying hypotheticals 

Edited January 29 by Raspberries

[ImpressMeMuch]

1 hour ago, Cult Leader 𐕣𐕣 said:

SHE IS THE ECONOMY

Paparazzi shot me, I am the economy
Follow me, follow me, follow me, follow, follow me

[ImpressMeMuch]

Just now, Raspberries said:

Because it never happened Tom was married to Giselle then

Reading comprehension at an all time global low I fear 

 

Comparisons similes and metaphors found dead in a ditch 

[BrandNewBrandon]

20 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

It's when you add everything up. From having the biggest tour of all time, to becoming the top selling female artist of all time in a few years, to so much else.... The power that that has. 

Becoming the best-selling female of all time isn't the same as being the biggest ARTIST of all time. There's so much more to being the biggest artist of all time and having the biggest tour and being the best selling female of all time is just a fraction of it (although only one of those is currently factual). 

[Raspberries]

38 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

You literally have no comparisons to draw from because no other pop girl has ever dated and attended their beau's football games during her peak popularity in music history. 

 

Madonna dating Joe Montana in the 80s and attending all of his games or Lady Gaga dating Tom Brady in 2010 or Britney dating Peyton Manning in the 2000s would've been the equivalent to what Taylor is doing now. 

 

That's like saying she's NOT the biggest artist of all time because she's NOT generating more dollars in toys like Britney. 

It doesn't matter  She is generating more money for local economies with her concerts than Britney could ever dream of 

 

 

[Raspberries]

1 minute ago, ImpressMeMuch said:

Reading comprehension at an all time global low I fear 

 

Comparisons similes and metaphors found dead in a ditch 

It was actually a hypothetical, not a simile or a comparison  

 

If you're going to argue about comprehension, maybe make sure you comprehend what's being posted

[BrandNewBrandon]

24 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

You've been bothered and trying to downplay Taylor's unprecedented achievements ever since you joined this forum. Give it up already sis 

Just because I don't agree with her being bigger than Michael Jackson or Madonna doesn't mean I don't think she's massive 

[BrandNewBrandon]

3 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

It doesn't matter  She is generating more money for local economies with her concerts than Britney could ever dream of 

 

 

The entire top 5 biggest tours of all time are compiled of Harry Styles, the Weeknd, Beyoncé, Coldplay and Taylor's latest tours. If you're going to go by concerts as your argument then you're falling flat. 

[Raspberries]

3 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

The entire top 5 biggest tours of all time are compiled of Harry Styles, the Weeknd, Beyoncé, Coldplay and Taylor's latest tours. If you're going to go by concerts as your argument then you're falling flat. 

And none of them were generating anywhere near the amount of money Taylor was for each city's economy while she was there  

[Life Savers]

The football industry 

[FENTY.]

What's the difference between social, market and brand value? Let me ask chatgpt

[rihannasbe$tfrnd]

All those millions and she still won’t invest in a $3 hairbrush for that mop on her head knowing that she’s going to be photographed at these games 

[The Music Industry]

42 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

The entire top 5 biggest tours of all time are compiled of Harry Styles, the Weeknd, Beyoncé, Coldplay and Taylor's latest tours.

The way that's not even true. The 5 biggest tours are Taylor's, Elton John's, Ed Sheeran's, U2's and Coldplay's.

[wastedpotential]

Just now, The Music Industry said:

The way that's not even true. The 5 biggest tours are Taylor's, Elton John's, Ed Sheeran's, U2's and Coldplay's.

I was gonna say 

[frankvert]

This thread getting derailed by drivel while Taylor has been going on one of the biggest digital marketing & branding campaigns of all time. She’s single handedly driving traffic from demographics that usually don’t engage with the NFL... She could be the CEO of Disney if she wanted to, Bob Iger count your days 

[BrandNewBrandon]

26 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

The 5 biggest tours are Taylor's, Elton John's, Ed Sheeran's, U2's and Coldplay's.

Oh I'm sorry. So three out of the five highest-grossing tours are from 2023 and are their latest tours. Beyoncé's tour is bigger than Madonna's biggest so that means she's bigger than Madonna and Harry Styles whose tour is No. 6 of all time is bigger than Michael Jackson and The Beatles and The Weeknd is bigger than Michael Jackson because his latest tour outgrossed his highest-grossing. 

 

So my initial statement still holds value as touring is NOT a measure of someone being the biggest artist of all time since every past first-placer (Elton and U2) have never been bigger than the Top 3 of the best-selling artists of all time (Elvis, The Beatles and Michael Jackson). 

Edited January 29 by BrandNewBrandon

[The Music Industry]

5 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

Oh I'm sorry. So three out of the five highest-grossing tours are from 2023 and are their latest tours. Beyoncé's tour is bigger than Madonna's biggest so that means she's bigger than Madonna and Harry Styles whose tour is No. 6 of all time is bigger than Michael Jackson and The Beatles and The Weeknd is bigger than Michael Jackson because his latest tour outgrossed his highest-grossing. 

 

So my initial statement still holds value as touring is NOT a measure of someone being the biggest artist of all time since every past first-placer (Elton and U2) have never been bigger than the Top 3 of the best-selling artists of all time (Elvis, The Beatles and Michael Jackson). 

Of course touring is a measure of success for an artist. I'm not sure why you're acting dense and pretending as if we said it's the sole metric of success  

[Taylena]

Always the same users fuming in these threads and trying to drive the conversation away from Taylor's achivements. 

[BrandNewBrandon]

4 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

Of course touring is a measure of success for an artist. I'm not sure why you're acting dense and pretending as if we said it's the sole metric of success  

Don't tell me none of your fellow stans are saying she's the biggest artist of all time because she has the biggest tour of all time. 

[ttsmu]

I don't know what's more boring... a football game or Taylor Swift's music?

 

Oh I know! Taylor Swift attending a football game. LOL

[taylorrrr]

2 hours ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

The entire top 5 biggest tours of all time are compiled of Harry Styles, the Weeknd, Beyoncé, Coldplay and Taylor's latest tours. If you're going to go by concerts as your argument then you're falling flat. 

The fact that only 2/5 is correct 

[Orsay]

Can’t wait to watch my team END her boyfriend in two weeks  GO NINERSSS BAYBEEE

[spree]

1 hour ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

Oh I'm sorry. So three out of the five highest-grossing tours are from 2023 and are their latest tours. Beyoncé's tour is bigger than Madonna's biggest so that means she's bigger than Madonna and Harry Styles whose tour is No. 6 of all time is bigger than Michael Jackson and The Beatles and The Weeknd is bigger than Michael Jackson because his latest tour outgrossed his highest-grossing. 

 

So my initial statement still holds value as touring is NOT a measure of someone being the biggest artist of all time since every past first-placer (Elton and U2) have never been bigger than the Top 3 of the best-selling artists of all time (Elvis, The Beatles and Michael Jackson). 

I mean you can account for inflation with the old tours and get an estimate of numbers, but imo, you still can't compare them.  The world was a completely and totally different place than it is now.  Concerts weren't really a huge thing in the 80's and before.  They were big, yes, but now it is like a huge corporate business model, something Madonna invented with Blond Ambition.  But with the rise of social media and the internet, it's just incomparable times.  The hype of concerts is part of everyday life with TikTok, IG reals, Facebook, YouTube shorts, etc.  Back then you had the newspaper. 

 

it's fun to compare numbers and argue and stuff, but at the end of the day, you still can't ever compare them realistically. The world is too different.