Lover Posted January 24 Posted January 24 a stage legend bringing another stage legend on stage 1 1 17
HardBambi Posted January 24 Posted January 24 4 hours ago, galomika said: self-proclaimed? are you for real... What’s wrong with her? She can be very funny 2 9
Illuminati Posted January 24 Posted January 24 3 hours ago, spiritboy said: Madge will always be pro-Israel so i doubt anyone will be surprised. Didn't she do the whole pro Palestine performance during the Eurovision? How did she go from that to being pro Israel?
Badgalbriel Posted January 24 Posted January 24 I mean, what the hell is she adding to the show? What's the point of bringing a comedian to a music stage?
Jjang Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) Just when you think Madonna can’t go any lower It’s crazy but more-so disappointing to look back 20 years ago at the American Life music video and realize the same woman is endorsing the Zionists in this genocide. She became exactly what she was criticizing - so either this woman is purely evil or she’s becoming senile. Because she used to “get it” before it was even mainstream to “get it”. She knows. What’s even more disgusting to me is that Madge always used the Palestinian cause to promote herself as cutting edge. She appropriates and wears other people’s struggles like outfits and when it doesn’t fit her she just throws them aside. The second a real stance was required from her as an ally (that she claimed to be) she back off and subtly endorsed the Zionist side. What a fake ass. Edited January 24 by Jjang 20 3 9
Popular Post State of Grace. Posted January 24 Popular Post Posted January 24 (edited) Disgusting but not really surprising. Madonna has obviously lost the plot. This hag went from being one of the few celebrities who were "vocal" about Palestine, she had a charity organization in Gaza and she has shown support for Palestine as recently as 2020 (when she posted #IStandWithPalestine on Instagram) and then it went full on crickets after May 2021 when her support and platform were desperately needed. She's already shown her true colors in October so inviting the raging Zionist on stage seems on brand. Her vile Zionist manager Guy Oseary might have an influence on her, but she is not a baby. Talk about being an opportunist. Edited January 24 by State of Grace. 18 1 2
Jjang Posted January 24 Posted January 24 11 minutes ago, Illuminati said: Didn't she do the whole pro Palestine performance during the Eurovision? How did she go from that to being pro Israel? she used to be an ally until may of 2021 when the massive shift in public opinion happened and it was no longer acceptable to have an “all life matters” “i support two sides” kind of opinion. After that she was MUTE. She actually used to share some very in depth statements on her IG stories about Palestine a number of years ago. She even sang “I’ll be Palestine, if they are incarcerated” every night on tour from 2019-2020 9
Jjang Posted January 24 Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Disgusting but not really surprising. Madonna has obviously lost the plot. This hag went from being one of the few celebrities who were "vocal" about Palestine, she had a charity organization in Gaza and she has shown support for Palestine as recently as 2020 (when she posted #IStandWithPalestine on Instagram) and then it went full on crickets after May 2021 when her support and platform were desperately needed. She's already shown her true colors in October so inviting the raging Zionist on stage seems on brand. Her vile Zionist manager Guy Oseary might have an influence on her, but she is not a baby. Talk about being an opportunist. every word 1 3
Solaria Posted January 24 Posted January 24 21 minutes ago, Jjang said: Just when you think Madonna can’t go any lower It’s crazy but more-so disappointing to look back 20 years ago at the American Life music video and realize the same woman is endorsing the Zionists in this genocide. She became exactly what she was criticizing - so either this woman is purely evil or she’s becoming senile. Because she used to “get it” before it was even mainstream to “get it”. She knows. What’s even more disgusting to me is that Madge always used the Palestinian cause to promote herself as cutting edge. She appropriates and wears other people’s struggles like outfits and when it doesn’t fit her she just throws them aside. The second a real stance was required from her as an ally (that she claimed to be) she back off and subtly endorsed the Zionist side. What a fake ass. Well let's not forget that the scrapped the original AL video and gave some bullshit response ''I don't think America gets irony right now with everything going on'' when we all know she saw how it affected the Dixie Chicks their career and was afraid it would happen to her too. This is the same case. I love Madge but when push comes to shove she really backs down on certain issues and this is one of them. LGBTQ rights, Malawi, aids, ageism, etc she'll always have the same stance on. But she doesn't on things like this and it has honestly always been kind of known.
Jjang Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Love Again said: Well let's not forget that the scrapped the original AL video and gave some bullshit response ''I don't think America gets irony right now with everything going on'' when we all know she saw how it affected the Dixie Chicks their career and was afraid it would happen to her too. This is the same case. I love Madge but when push comes to shove she really backs down on certain issues and this is one of them. LGBTQ rights, Malawi, aids, ageism, etc she'll always have the same stance on. But she doesn't on things like this and it has honestly always been kind of known. But she still had the intention at least to release it. She went as far as spending millions on that video to curate a statement that the American media was utterly not yet ready to hear. There was no social media back then and there was a lynch mob mentality against people who were anti-war as the actual war was happening because the US propaganda was extremely strong. She didn’t just say that. Also, she showed the video every night on tour that era in a clear anti-imperialist message. She didn’t completely withdraw. Let alone take the side of the oppressor like she does in 2024. Edited January 24 by Jjang 1
Solaria Posted January 24 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Jjang said: But she still had the intention at least to release it. She went as far as spending millions on that video to curate a statement that the American media was utterly not yet ready to hear. There was no social media back then and there was a lynch mob mentality against people who were anti-war as the actual war was happening. She didn’t just say that. Also, she showed the video every night on tour that era in a clear anti-imperialist message. She didn’t completely withdraw. Let alone take the side of the oppressor like she does in 2024. I don't think she sees it that way though that's the issue. In her mind it's more nuanced. You, me and many other ATRLers rightfully so know Israel = the aggressor but she lives in this oblivious world of ''we need peace for both sides'' that pretty much every other celebrity takes on as well. I'm not saying this as a excuse btw, she SHOULD know better. Especially her, but this is just the reality of things. It's sad. Can't support her on this
Jjang Posted January 24 Posted January 24 15 minutes ago, Love Again said: I don't think she sees it that way though that's the issue. In her mind it's more nuanced. You, me and many other ATRLers rightfully so know Israel = the aggressor but she lives in this oblivious world of ''we need peace for both sides'' that pretty much every other celebrity takes on as well. I'm not saying this as a excuse btw, she SHOULD know better. Especially her, but this is just the reality of things. It's sad. Can't support her on this well even that is irrelevant cause Amy’s views are surely not nuanced just straight up racist. Also, I’m friends with one of her dancers on IG and I know for a fact her whole touring crew is pro-Palestine Bob was even on social media dragging Amy and Michael Rapaport. Her drummer said he’s not performing if he sees Israeli flags in the crowd. To be this oblivious to world news and your own crew’s opinions is just wild.
spiritboy Posted January 24 Posted January 24 You guys make it like she’s making Amy a permanent part of the show Like it or not, Amy is a very good friend of her and she had fun with her friend on stage, nothing serious. Just because she invited her on stage doesn’t mean she shares Amy’s views on Zionism. 3 2 10
Jjang Posted January 24 Posted January 24 21 minutes ago, spiritboy said: You guys make it like she’s making Amy a permanent part of the show Like it or not, Amy is a very good friend of her and she had fun with her friend on stage, nothing serious. Just because she invited her on stage doesn’t mean she shares Amy’s views on Zionism. She should invite Neo Nazis supporters next then be more inclusive! 3 1
spiritboy Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Atrl fuming over nothing as usual. Nobody cares about this apart from OMHs. 8 1 2 12
Heirloom Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) Madonna is always been very weird with her politics and she will never learn, her shrinking fanbase will still support her anyway Edited January 24 by Heirloom 2
GlamSlam Posted January 24 Posted January 24 9 minutes ago, spiritboy said: Atrl fuming over nothing as usual. Nobody cares about this apart from OMHs. 1 2 4
Popular Post Jjang Posted January 24 Popular Post Posted January 24 I’m so ashamed to be a part of this spineless fan base She’s not gonna stop being a legend or an OG if you rightfully criticize her for once. Stop giving these rich privileged white celebrities impunity from criticism just because you developed some weird parasocial relationship with them. 2 million people with nowhere to go are getting slaughtered left and right and yall are mad because Madge is getting criticized for inviting someone on stage who has been and is still extremely vocal about their support for this genocide. I’m so embarrassed for you. 17 6 2
Phaunzie Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) 5 hours ago, playwithme said: Disgusting anti-Semitism on HamasTRL. Sweetheart, get your facts straight. There is nothing inherently Jewish about Zionism other than its origin. To be a Zionist, you can be Christian, Jewish, agnostic and even Muslim. Most Zionists are evangelicals, hun Take the hint from your universal panning, educate yourself on why you are wrong. Madonna, like Xtina said 'You Lost Me'. Seriously you brought Amy' I Love Palestinian Genocide' Schumer on stage, all the while having songs like American Life and Nobody Knows Me in your discography. I am honestly disappointed, like you saw what she outputs on a monthly basis and thought that was a person I want to be associated with. Edited January 24 by Phaunzie
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