Kisuke Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Yes she sure did, love to see Ari inspired after attending the ren tour 1
Tamera Posted January 12 Posted January 12 With the Renaissance album that did just ok? Making these claims right after its concert movie tanked is a choice. 1 1 1
JonginBey Posted January 12 Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Tamera said: With the Renaissance album that did just ok? Making these claims right after its concert movie tanked is a choice. Where’s the correlation? 1
greento Posted January 12 Posted January 12 How can she bring it to the forefront when she was never at the forefront 1
Kimi Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Jay07 said: Not claiming every Gaga song ever (even Hold My Hand) is queer coded. As for ballroom, that's literally what everyone has been saying. That Beyoncé's #1 lead single which actually interpolated Vogue in one of its remixes was more instrumental in bringing ballroom to the forefront over a Gaga album track that limply imitated the sound. Limply, girl be less pretentious. And how is sampling a smash hit more creative than being inspired by the sound while making something new. Also if you wanna get there we could talk how out of touch the lyrics in BMS were, working 9-5 sung by a billionaire. Is it honoring ballroom culture or cosplaying and appropriating it by pretending you're some regular person oppressed by capitalism 1
readytowind Posted January 12 Posted January 12 nope she didnt. she was just chasing the trend which was done already before,
ScorpiosGroove Posted January 12 Posted January 12 2 hours ago, Brikenbur said: I mean, if NOT, then who did? Taylor Alison Swift? trust me, they’ll find a way to credit her ass for that too 1
Brikenbur Posted January 12 Posted January 12 3 hours ago, Sugden said: not it doesnt alice sour candy 100 doves enigma babylon rain on me free woman replay those are all house tracks, is almost the whole album really These are not HOUSE house 1 1
Phaunzie Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) I guess Pose FX never existed, hell Legendary must have been a daydream. Ballroom has been in pop music before and will be in pop music after Beyonce. When FKA Twigs, Azealia Banks and numerous other artists have showed love for ballroom long before her. Edited January 12 by Phaunzie
ScorpiosGroove Posted January 12 Posted January 12 48 minutes ago, Phaunzie said: I guess Pose FX never existed, hell Legendary must have been a daydream. Ballroom has been in pop music before and will be in pop music after Beyonce. When FKA Twigs, Azealia Banks and numerous other artists have showed love for ballroom long before her. they obviously meant as of recently and mainstream why are y’all so dense showing love to ballroom ≠ help making it mainstream you really want us to believe that azealia ******* banks and twigs, two artists no one outside a minority on twitter even knows exist, put more people onto ballroom than one of the biggest artists of all time and her huge current era ? sure, beyoncé isn’t the only person bringing ballroom to the forefront (and i don’t think that was OP’s point anyway) but you people in here acting like random madonna / jlo songs with 2M streams or a gaga album that was never mainstream to begin with did more for the genre than an album that was listened to and experienced live by millions of people around the world (and who features actual ballroom artists, dancers and legends not black pink or elton john ) is just… ridiculously delusional 2
Raspberries Posted January 12 Posted January 12 6 hours ago, Sugden said: not it doesnt alice sour candy 100 doves enigma babylon rain on me free woman replay those are all house tracks, is almost the whole album really Y'all just login and say anything 2
Phaunzie Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said: they obviously meant as of recently and mainstream why are y’all so dense showing love to ballroom ≠ help making it mainstream you really want us to believe that azealia ******* banks and twigs, two artists no one outside a minority on twitter even knows exist, put more people onto ballroom than one of the biggest artists of all time and her huge current era ? sure, beyoncé isn’t the only person bringing ballroom to the forefront (and i don’t think that was OP’s point anyway) but you people in here acting like random madonna / jlo songs with 2M streams or a gaga album that was never mainstream to begin with did more for the genre than an album that was listened to and experienced live by millions of people around the world (and who features actual ballroom artists, dancers and legends not black pink or elton john ) is just… ridiculously delusional Did the OP use the words recently? I'm sorry that you need to make Beyonce the source of all inspiration.
Kristie Kuwa Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said: they obviously meant as of recently and mainstream why are y’all so dense showing love to ballroom ≠ help making it mainstream you really want us to believe that azealia ******* banks and twigs, two artists no one outside a minority on twitter even knows exist, put more people onto ballroom than one of the biggest artists of all time and her huge current era ? sure, beyoncé isn’t the only person bringing ballroom to the forefront (and i don’t think that was OP’s point anyway) but you people in here acting like random madonna / jlo songs with 2M streams or a gaga album that was never mainstream to begin with did more for the genre than an album that was listened to and experienced live by millions of people around the world (and who features actual ballroom artists, dancers and legends not black pink or elton john ) is just… ridiculously delusional The way so many fail to understand this and the purpose of my thread is shown by the childish behavior of downvoting me lol Like, seeing the reaction to this thread, youd think I implied Bey invented ballroom music
Vespertine Posted January 12 Posted January 12 10 hours ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: How about instead of finding a way to credit rich straight celebrities for everything we just admit that the current upswing in consumption of ballroom-influenced media was brought about by members of the community themselves? Just a thought Thank you. And if we have to name a celebrity, there’s a very obvious one: RuPaul. I have to say, it‘s hilarious seeing members of this forum go on about which MPG did what, when for years I’ve seen them disparagingly call any remotely gay sounding music “crappy RuPaul music.” Drag Race has wildly transformed popular culture and gender politics whether people realize it or not, from the slang straight people now use to culture wars over drag queens to the popularization of TV shows like Pose. I know a lot of people have a lot of opinions about Ru, but it’s pretty absurd to argue over whether Ariana, Bey, or Gaga “started” anything when Ru is the reason many people have even heard of ballroom. 1 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted January 12 Posted January 12 30 minutes ago, Phaunzie said: Did the OP use the words recently? I'm sorry that you need to make Beyonce the source of all inspiration. i’m sorry that people daring to credit a woman that constantly gets downplayed on here has you this bothered
Lose My Breath Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) Absolutely No big pop star was doing maintstream Ballroom tracks before Beyonce Edited January 12 by Lose My Breath 1 2
Cheers Posted January 12 Posted January 12 No. There isn't just one single entity responsible. It has been building its way back to the mainstream for a few years now.
popstyle Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) Even if lady gaga did it first Chromatica was garbage compared to Renaissance it was done right. The only song i liked on Chromatica was Rain on me and sour candy. Edited January 12 by popstyle 1 6
brenda-walsh Posted January 12 Posted January 12 i'm sorry but i can't with the monsters in here embarrassing themselves thinking Chromatica is ballroom and liking/disliking any post that doesn't agree with them Chrom is 90's influenced euro/ house with a lot of dated, predictable 2010's tropical house. nothing about it except for one song brings ballroom or queer music culture to the forefront 5 1
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