Scandalous Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 i mean this era is a lot more exciting and interesting than Positions at least i keep coming back to this album a lot, there's a lot of relatable things on here for anyone who's been in a similar situation (i know ariana says these songs are vague on purpose but there's some obvious truth to them). getting into the meat of the lyrics of these songs makss it such a special album 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxoonlight Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 ariana having a one hit era being largely overshadowed by her contemporaries as the threat of a trump presidency looms… welcome back dangerous woman 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 This song is so dreamy. Where the hell have I been? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerardo Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 8 hours ago, mxoonlight said: ariana having a one hit era being largely overshadowed by her contemporaries as the threat of a trump presidency looms… welcome back dangerous woman Ironically enough, DW ended up outselling WW all the other female albums of that year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tm4074 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 On 8/21/2024 at 12:59 PM, ariananext said: I'll give my two cents about all that's been going on with her fanbase. She's given us her best album - and if one doesn't think it's her best it's undeniable that it's a great body of work, because it has her best lyrics, great vocals, gave us a genre switch, her best music video and more promo than her last 2 eras combined. I don't think it was "forced" because she could've just bought 13 songs and put them out if that was the case, with no promo whatsoever. Instead she wrote most of it by herself, worked with different people, went out of her comfort zone and she did performances AND interviews - something she refused to do until this year. The real issue seems to be that she's moved away from the persona her fans want her to embody. It's not just about her demeanor, which people like to blame on Wicked, but mostly about the fact that she doesn't allow them to have that parasocial relationship that fans nowadays crave. Back in 2011-2018 she was always online chatting with fans, out taking pictures, following stans on twitter and she was also one of the first artists to do so. When she stepped back after the Sweetener Tour I think many of her fans lost that feeling of connection. The thing is she's 100% right to do so because she's been through a lot and she has to protect herself, her peace and her mental health, and it was clear as the day back in 2018-2019 when she spiraled on Twitter that social media aren't good for her. She's built a character, she did back in 2013, she did it in 2018 and again in 2021, and that's still to protect herself. She doesn't live for her job the way some others do, she's not seeking validation for her craft or talent, and she's not interested in exposing her vulnerabilities for public consumption nor for sympathy. She works hard, but on her own terms, and while she loves her fans, after everything she's been through both personally and professionally, she's likely willing to sacrifice some chart success or adoration for the sake of her well-being, she set boundaries she had to set. I personally don't have anything to complain about because I love Eternal Sunshine and I just learned that I shouldn't be so demanding with her, the era (especially the first month) was enjoyable, more than many others, especially A listers, do at the moment. I'm excited for Wicked, I'm excited for whatever will be coming and I think that anybody who keeps complaining about everything should simply learn to let her go because at this point they're just building resentment towards Ariana (and she clearly feels it) and ruining the experience for fans who still enjoy stanning her. This is exactly what's happening and I completely agree. Although I get why certain fans are having this negative reaction since Ariana has fed into the parasocial-ness of it all in the past, but they need to get over it or move on. I mean, Taylor isn't talking to her fans 24/7 on social media either. For the most part she's pretty elusive these days. Rihanna used to engage online, she doesn't anymore. Beyoncé completely checked out lol. Ariana is at a status where she doesn't need to be doing the same things these newer girls are. Olivia, Billie, Sabrina, etc. will all get to this point too where they don't play the game as much nor want to. Boundaries are important unless she wants to get burnt out again and we get nothing. ES album cycle already has way more effort than Positions ever did. Ariana from the TUN or Positions era would never be a guest on Hot Ones or do multiple hour long podcast interviews with an interviewer not named Zach Sang. She definitely getting out of her comfort zone in that regard. Wicked promotional cycle will be very busy and she will be everywhere. Depending on how the movie is received this could open a lot of doors for her in her career. She can't be wearing high ponytails and oversized hoodies talking s***on Twitter forever like some stans crave so badly. Tbh though the Glinda aesthetics are not my favorite, I'm not mad about it and think she should do whatever she wants. Like all pop stars past and present she will evolve her persona over time. It's nothing to get worked up over. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satin Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 On 8/26/2024 at 11:17 AM, mxoonlight said: ariana having a one hit era being largely overshadowed by her contemporaries as the threat of a trump presidency looms… welcome back dangerous woman Right, and I can see her putting out a low effort flop 4th single to end the era just for shits a la Everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KasioKas Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 WCBF performance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Groove Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 On 8/27/2024 at 1:36 AM, Chris said: This song is so dreamy. Where the hell have I been? The most underrated song on the album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxoonlight Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 PROMISE U I'M NOT USUALLYYY LIKE THIS ****, IT'S LIKE NEWS TO ME TO ME BUT IIII CAN'T IGNORE MY HEEAAAARRRTTT BOYYYY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxoonlight Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 On 8/27/2024 at 10:16 PM, Satin said: Right, and I can see her putting out a low effort flop 4th single to end the era just for shits a la Everyday bye music video with old people making out because why not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan_brit Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 13 hours ago, KasioKas said: WCBF performance Perfom it at the VMAS where is the announcement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judasmonster Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Supposedly this new WCBF performance was done as a private event for Grammy Voters. I think it's the first time we really see her campaigning for an album, and I'm hoping she gets her flowers this time around compared to the last few years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyLovescats887 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 10 hours ago, mxoonlight said: bye music video with old people making out because why not I fear that's just 'Birthday' by Kayty Perry so we need to make the old people run around each other in circles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteferrari Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 have a feeling that deluxe project will turn into a new album for 2025 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Monday Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 (edited) we can't be friends high key carrying the entire album atp Edited August 31 by Blue Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 She sounds so good here. Her best song is aging like wine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristocrat Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 On 8/30/2024 at 6:46 PM, whiteferrari said: have a feeling that deluxe project will turn into a new album for 2025 I could definitely see that. Especially when she's bored with a whole year of nothing in between the two Wicked movies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Reader Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I let this album breathe for a while. I'm now coming back to it and it's even more perfect than I could remember. Perfect for this end of summer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristocrat Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 She dropped a really beautiful acoustic version of WCBF with newly recorded vocals. It's so stunning. and on the cover art, the piece of paper says "stay tuned, sunshines" so maybe the deluxe is still happening… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariananext Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 2 hours ago, Aristocrat said: She dropped a really beautiful acoustic version of WCBF with newly recorded vocals. It's so stunning. and on the cover art, the piece of paper says "stay tuned, sunshines" so maybe the deluxe is still happening… I love this, isn't it the Grammys thing recording? She should drop the video of the performance too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 This version is sooo gorgeous. I've obsessed with the song again I think Q1 would be a good time for the deluxe. Don't see it happening around the same time as Wicked's release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knewbetterpt2 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 and people claim she's in her flop era… duck_smoking.gif 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laqqinq Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Eternal Sunshine has been included in a few 'best albums of 2024 (so far)' lists. Rolling Stone Vogue Variety Esquire Please add to this if there's more lists by publications in which the album has been included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judasmonster Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 on IG she said WCBF is her favorite video and one she's proudest of no matter what. I fear she may be losing VOTY at vmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 True Story was so robbed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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