Tm4074 Posted July 17 Posted July 17 11 hours ago, genio said: I think that's a lot, musicals usually don't go that high. I think it would be more than amazing if it already crossed 500m, but obviously I wouldn't mind if it went higher Mamma Mia! - 694.6M Les Misérables - 442.8M Wonka - 632.3M Wicked needs to perform around these numbers - at the very least. The budget is ~$150M for just part 1 I believe and that's without marketing costs too. It will need to gross ~$400M to breakeven. Wicked is also a popular IP as part of the Oz universe, so it has a leg up compared to other musicals. If it doesn't outgross 2013's Oz The Great and Powerful ($493.3M) that's not going to be good optics for the franchise and bad news for part 2 in 2025. Universal is banking on this smashing since they really want to use the IP for an attraction at their theme parks. I hope it works out because it could go either way, imo. Ariana's star power is carrying the movie for those who aren't musical fans and aren't familiar with the story.
Gerardo Posted July 17 Posted July 17 1 hour ago, wantedyoutogrow said: guys which version of TBIM should I get? I don't have neither a vinyl nor a CD player but the cover is just too cunty to miss out on… I would go with the CD, cheaper and you can use it on your car
mxoonlight Posted July 17 Posted July 17 See how Pony fell to her knees and got back to work with announcing those versions coming out the DAY after my birthday? That's what I thought. Don't play with me during Cancer season, Ariana. This is supposed to be our shared time and you start acting crazy once YOUR birthday ends and mine gets closer. Second year in a row now and I don't appreciate it. You're out of princess prison for now. 3
mxoonlight Posted July 17 Posted July 17 oh and the abridged version of the boy is mine mv can be next with just the song can be added for helping with streaming. thank you boo
wantedyoutogrow Posted July 18 Posted July 18 her team really sucks at getting her airplay cause how the hell does Illusion by Dua (a song that was DOA on release day) have 3x the airplay that TBIM has? 4
Bencharmer Posted July 18 Posted July 18 I love this album, I love The Boy Is Mine and Yes And? but i'm still not a fan of how those two songs are flowing in the tracklist 💀 It feels like they have a total different vibe from the rest of the album.
Dear Reader Posted July 19 Posted July 19 we can't be friends instrumental is literally perfect omg… this song is so good. I wish she released all the instrumentals and acapellas eventually. Need the eternal sunshine one 2
mxoonlight Posted July 19 Posted July 19 18 hours ago, wantedyoutogrow said: her team really sucks at getting her airplay cause how the hell does Illusion by Dua (a song that was DOA on release day) have 3x the airplay that TBIM has? they saw glastonbury and gagged see how PROMO works…
Tm4074 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Rumors circulating she's in Paris for the Olympics? Idk how reliable these rumors are but I guess there quite a few pop stars there. I know Wicked is set to have promotional slots during the Olympics so possibly has something to do with that. Idk what she's going to be doing there if she's not performing though.
ariananext Posted July 23 Author Posted July 23 6 minutes ago, Tm4074 said: Rumors circulating she's in Paris for the Olympics? Idk how reliable these rumors are but I guess there quite a few pop stars there. I know Wicked is set to have promotional slots during the Olympics so possibly has something to do with that. Idk what she's going to be doing there if she's not performing though. Yeah I just read that too!
ariananext Posted July 25 Author Posted July 25 (edited) interview for rem beauty but she asked about tour Edited July 25 by ariananext
judasmonster Posted July 31 Posted July 31 it feels like the album is dying down a bit again. They're saying VMA nominations come out tmrw or very soon which im sure Ariana will have a lot of nominations so hopefully she uses that promo to milk this era more. 3
kayliah Posted July 31 Posted July 31 she should do more promo get those soccer moms ... and young millenials
Matchatea Posted July 31 Posted July 31 2 hours ago, kayliah said: she should do more promo get those soccer moms ... and young millenials They hate her unfortunately… they call her a home wrecker and act as if she killed a whole family…. 😭 2
Zkn Posted August 2 Posted August 2 So... Is it over? Since her ig storie, seems like she's going to let eternal sunshine die. Wonder if the deluxe is still coming or was cancelled.
ANTisocial Posted August 2 Posted August 2 30 minutes ago, Zkn said: So... Is it over? Since her ig storie, seems like she's going to let eternal sunshine die. Wonder if the deluxe is still coming or was cancelled.
Tm4074 Posted August 3 Posted August 3 On 7/31/2024 at 4:04 PM, kayliah said: she should do more promo get those soccer moms ... and young millenials Soccer moms are a lost cause, she's too polarizing. They listen to by-the-numbers artists that don't rock the boat like P!nk and Kelly Clarkson. They don't really like Taylor either lol. Ariana has young millennials already they're part of her prime target audience along with Gen Z. Ariana needs to target younger audiences like Gen Alpha, that's what keeps you relevant for a long time by appealing to younger audiences. Beyoncé, Mariah, Taylor all achieved longevity by appealing to younger audiences, not older. Seems are though the ES era is over? If the deluxe isn't cancelled and it's released during Wicked's press run she's not going to put much promotional effort into it. Will be for the fans. Wicked better be a huge moment with all this effort and promo being put into it.
Just a Gay on ATRL Posted August 3 Posted August 3 13 minutes ago, Tm4074 said: Soccer moms are a lost cause, she's too polarizing. They listen to by-the-numbers artists that don't rock the boat like P!nk and Kelly Clarkson. They don't really like Taylor either lol. Ariana has young millennials already they're part of her prime target audience along with Gen Z. Ariana needs to target younger audiences like Gen Alpha, that's what keeps you relevant for a long time by appealing to younger audiences. Beyoncé, Mariah, Taylor all achieved longevity by appealing to younger audiences, not older. Seems are though the ES era is over? If the deluxe isn't cancelled and it's released during Wicked's press run she's not going to put much promotional effort into it. Will be for the fans. Wicked better be a huge moment with all this effort and promo being put into it. Soccer moms as we know them (who are primarily Gen X I'd assume with some spill into milennials) are also slowly losing their market share/power as they get older and as millennials/Gen Z continue to become the primary consumers of music. 2024 has been a pivotal year imo where I've really noticed Gen Z becoming more powerful on the charts including their favorite artists. You don't need to appeal to soccer moms as much anymore to have sustained success. In fact, you've probably noticed that several of soccer moms favorite artists like P!nk, Kelly Clarkson, Meghan Trainor, Ed Sheeran's, Justin Timberlake's etc. newer albums really don't do that well anymore. They'll sell out shows and be icons forever but the soccer moms just aren't supporting their new music. As people get older they seek out new music less on average and the kind of music soccer moms liked is not hitting with Gen Z or younger at all. Milennials still kinda like it in smaller numbers I guess but in the next 10-20 years what's happening to Gen X consumption will start happening to milennial's favorite artists/music. Ari has nothing to worry about here because Gen Z and younger seem to adore her. She has them down and won't lose them. 2
Bewitched Posted August 3 Posted August 3 Can these b*tches just accept she's gonna be focused on Wicked for the next 2 years like I already knew this album wasn't gonna get a full promo rollout
Tm4074 Posted August 3 Posted August 3 6 minutes ago, Just a Gay on ATRL said: Soccer moms as we know them (who are primarily Gen X I'd assume) are also slowly losing their market share/power as they get older and as millennials/Gen Z continue to become the primary consumers of music. 2024 has been a pivotal year imo where I've really noticed Gen Z becoming more powerful on the charts including their favorite artists. You don't need to appeal to soccer moms as much anymore to have sustained success. In fact, you've probably noticed that several of soccer moms favorite artists like P!nk, Kelly Clarkson, Meghan Trainor, Ed Sheeran's, Justin Timberlake's etc. newer albums really don't do that well anymore. They'll sell out shows and be icons forever but the soccer moms just aren't supporting their new music. As people get older they seek out new music less on average and the kind of music soccer moms liked is not hitting with Gen Z or younger at all. Milennials still kinda like it in smaller numbers I guess but in the next 10-20 years what's happening to Gen X consumption will start happening to milennial's favorite artists/music. Exactly! I remember reading that most people over 30 stop listening/seeking out new music and choose to continue listening to their favorite artists/hits from their youth instead. Ariana never made music for soccer moms and she won't ever be their favorite artist period lol. Her oldest demographic is young millennials which is her peer group that has been aging with her so I don't see her reaching demographics much older than that nor should she need to. As you said soccer moms are losing their market share/power. So much so even Adele was struggling with 30 outside of EOM. I mean Ariana's so-called "flop era" Positions did 103 weeks on the chart while 30 only did 69 weeks. No need to target a demo with dying influence on the charts.
Ivan_brit Posted August 4 Posted August 4 The era is not over! Also Ariana could smash the VMAS noms 1
SpaceOddity Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Still on the hill that yes, and was fun and fresh and a great lead, astonished people didn't get it. Deserved better. 1
Tm4074 Posted August 5 Posted August 5 I hope she attends the VMAs this year because if she does they will throw her a few awards and probably VOTY. WCBF deserves it regardless if we are considering quality of the actual music video and not just awarding the most popular song.
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