levi_valvi Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Wait IVE bombing internationally. I thought Heya was a smash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playboi Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 33 minutes ago, levi_valvi said: Wait IVE bombing internationally. I thought Heya was a smash yeah they're relegated to a b-tier group with aespa and LSRFM congratulations to newjeans for being the only group left in a-tier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Edition Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 3 minutes ago, playboi said: yeah they're relegated to a b-tier group with aespa and LSRFM congratulations to newjeans for being the only group left in a-tier Honestly I think kpop in general just ain't as big as it used to be internationally. Plus, people move on so much faster these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattheo Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 57 minutes ago, levi_valvi said: Wait IVE bombing internationally. I thought Heya was a smash People are just tasteless snd that's okay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattheo Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Not an IVE vs lesser version now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nein Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Truly the best performers of Kpop The way they never aged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Baddie deserved 100 days on Spotify Global 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaespa Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 BADDIE feels like something i-fans will like cant believe it didn't even enter Spotify global chart people are truly tasteless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanni Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, levi_valvi said: Wait IVE bombing internationally. I thought Heya was a smash not really enough international promo to have them charting on global le sserafim had coachella (and the controversy surrounding it + smart's controversy) to push them back onto the charts hopefully if ive releases before lolla, that'll help push them onto the chart too, or at least help with some of their older releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanni Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 22 minutes ago, newaespa said: BADDIE feels like something i-fans will like cant believe it didn't even enter Spotify global chart people are truly tasteless i agree but it doesn't really have the sound that people are going for. if we focus on tiktok appeal alone everyones going for hyperpop, amapiano, dnb, whatever 6arelyhuman is doing, and house music. someone needs to rip off charli xcx's concept if they want a chance at global appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 7 minutes ago, hanni said: i agree but it doesn't really have the sound that people are going for. if we focus on tiktok appeal alone everyones going for hyperpop, amapiano, dnb, whatever 6arelyhuman is doing, and house music. someone needs to rip off charli xcx's concept if they want a chance at global appeal No offence to Charli XCX, but it's not like she herself has the "global appeal" you speak of She had massive influence on pop music and hyperpop but she's a very niche artist now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucinate Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 heya surpassing 68 plays on my last fm charts smash hit confirmed 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanni Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 14 minutes ago, illia said: No offence to Charli XCX, but it's not like she herself has the "global appeal" you speak of She had massive influence on pop music and hyperpop but she's a very niche artist now I agree she's not a "main pop girl" but she has the sound that has that tiktok virality right now that being said people were eating up make you mine on tiktok but that failed to enter the hot 100. i don't know lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 32 minutes ago, hanni said: someone needs to rip off charli xcx's concept if they want a chance at global appeal So are we just pretending aespa doesn't exist now or? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levi_valvi Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, hanni said: not really enough international promo to have them charting on global le sserafim had coachella (and the controversy surrounding it + smart's controversy) to push them back onto the charts hopefully if ive releases before lolla, that'll help push them onto the chart too, or at least help with some of their older releases They had international promo when Love Dive, Eleven and After like charted on global Spotify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nein Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Why is the MHJ and Bang PD drama so quiet today. What's happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevate Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 14 minutes ago, Nein said: Why is the MHJ and Bang PD drama so quiet today. What's happening. My gut tells me Bang PD is in hospital. The nurses aren't facilitating the process, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevate Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, Save-Me-Oprah said: He's giving me cutiepie Sunoo vibes with this cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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geniecantstophypeboy Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Kpop companies are investing too much time and money on "viral marketing" and "A&R for trendy music" and not enough on talent (both staff and idols), skills, and a strong branding for their girl groups. HYBE and SM in particular are bogged down by bureaucracy and top-heavy management, stiffing the creatives, and are incapable of putting out a good product of good quality. The last 2 HYBE GGs having some of the least talented idols in the industry and some of the most derivative branding, with no sign of improvement, is laughable coming from a "top company". This formula that revolves around "forced virality" might work for BGs to expose many kpop fans to the idols and build a big fanbase of this parasocial relationship, it won't work for GGs that tap more into the general population from genuine public interest and critical reception. Kpop fans may be deaf and blind, the rest of the world isn't. They quickly see through the cracks and see idols for what they are, actors. And when those actors are devoid of artistry, lack their own personality, and the teams behind them are slacking off, there is nothing left to write home about. YG is about to eat SM, JYP and HYBE again with BM and TBL NGG because they are the only ones to debut not completely unprepared idols in a neat little package. Regardless of how everyone feels about BM, they are still light-years ahead of every other group sans NJ when it comes to putting out a cohesive, good quality product. They have their own musical and visual identity that is reflected through everything they do and every piece of content they put out, and that's saying a lot about HYBE, SM, JYP, Starship given what YG is doing isn't great by any mean. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 9 hours ago, MonsterNavy said: good for stray kids I guess but atleast book a fashionable group like RIIZE or TXT? its the MET ffs skz might be the most tackiest and has zero sense of style 4th gen bg out there but its tommy hilfiger so maybe its really not that deep The RIIZE sneak You also seem bitter that NCT DREAM didn't get the invite Cause Met Gala is not something that can just be booked, you have to get an INVITE from Anna Winthour herself. And not you saying that SKZ not being fashionable? Aside from being ambassadors for Tommy Hilfiger as a group 6/8 members are also working luxury brands: Spoiler Hyunjin - Versace (Global Ambassador) Felix - Luis Vuitton (Global ambassador) I.N - Alexander MxQueen Lee Know - Gucci Seungmin - Loewe Bang Chan - Givenchy Edited May 5 by Pluto6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 26 minutes ago, geniecantstophypeboy said: Kpop companies are investing too much time and money on "viral marketing" and "A&R for trendy music" and not enough on talent (both staff and idols), skills, and a strong branding for their girl groups. HYBE and SM in particular are bogged down by bureaucracy and top-heavy management, stiffing the creatives, and are incapable of putting out a good product of good quality. The last 2 HYBE GGs having some of the least talented idols in the industry and some of the most derivative branding, with no sign of improvement, is laughable coming from a "top company". This formula that revolves around "forced virality" might work for BGs to expose many kpop fans to the idols and build a big fanbase of this parasocial relationship, it won't work for GGs that tap more into the general population from genuine public interest and critical reception. Kpop fans may be deaf and blind, the rest of the world isn't. They quickly see through the cracks and see idols for what they are, actors. And when those actors are devoid of artistry, lack their own personality, and the teams behind them are slacking off, there is nothing left to write home about. YG is about to eat SM, JYP and HYBE again with BM and TBL NGG because they are the only ones to debut not completely unprepared idols in a neat little package. Regardless of how everyone feels about BM, they are still light-years ahead of every other group sans NJ when it comes to putting out a cohesive, good quality product. They have their own musical and visual identity that is reflected through everything they do and every piece of content they put out, and that's saying a lot about HYBE, SM, JYP, Starship given what YG is doing isn't great by any mean. Not you acting like JYP didn't debut NMIXX 2 years ago, who are literally the strongest girl group vocally since MAMAMOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geniecantstophypeboy Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 minute ago, Pluto6 said: Not you acting like JYP didn't debut NMIXX 2 years ago, who are literally the strongest girl group vocally since MAMAMOO NMIXX have the branding of a wet potato. What even is their "thing"? They don't even look like an idol group when they are together, however talented they may be individually. NMIXX branding is so bad, they are worse than the sum of its parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 The fact that they still have AOTY on lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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