celeb news Email from ‘Scott Swift’ (Taylor Swift’s Dad) to Taylor’s old manager in 2005 leaks

[emailmyhearts]

This read like someone’s diary during a manic episode 

[Kill Me]

6 minutes ago, Static Shock said:

The Jackson family comes from poverty and Joe/Katherine tapped into the musical talents of all their children. Janet has been singing, dancing, acting, etc. since the 1970s w/ her siblings on The Jackson Variety Show. 

 

In 1974, Joe Jackson had his family, including daughters Rebbie, LaToya and Janet perform at casinos and resorts in the Las Vegas area. 

 

Comparing Janet who along w/ her siblings used their talent to rise out of poverty can NOT be compared to someone whose wealth goes back generations. 

 

 

Stfu dupe.

Noone cares.

[GraceRandolph]

2 minutes ago, FightDragonsWithMe said:

Wow 4 whole people 

I didn’t List every nepo baby in existence. Still, plenty of nepo babies have succeeded so your point is moot.

[FightDragonsWithMe]

Just now, GraceRandolph said:

I didn’t List every nepo baby in existence. Still, plenty of nepo babies have succeeded so your point is moot.

Where's Noah Cyrus's thriving music career? Why isn't she getting pushed like Dua Lipa? 

[GraceRandolph]

I actually have a lot more respect for Taylor after reading this. Her parents don’t seem like kind people, and likely viewed her as a cash cow from a young age regardless of how ambitious she was. 

[Redstreak]

2 hours ago, Saintlor said:

Taylor singing about not growing up in a mansion  

 

Her fans always defending her and being offended if anyone says she grew up rich  

Literally who even cares?

[Static Shock]

5 minutes ago, Miss Americana said:

Stfu dupe.

Noone cares.

Facts got you in your feelings? 

[Kill Me]

1 minute ago, Static Shock said:

Facts got you in your feelings? 

I'm not going back and forth with an obvious dupe that will be out of here in 2 weeks.

Keep barking...

[Static Shock]

4 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Literally who even cares?

Clearly, Taylor cares enough to lie about it. 

 

I Bet You Think About Me (Taylor’s Version)

[Verse 3: Taylor Swift]
You grew up in a silver-spoon gated community
Glamorous, shiny, bright Beverly Hills
I was raised on a farm, no, it wasn't a mansion
Just livin' room dancin' and kitchen table bills

 

[liquiddiamonds]

No one can deny the impact of generational wealth, but that’s not all it takes, much less to produce a Taylor Swift. Gracie Abrams is richer than Taylor and she’s yet to chart an album inside the top 50 in the US and score a mainstream hit. I’m sure her father has fueled a lot of money into her career and she was even opening for Taylor with celebrities attending and namedropping her and it did nothing for her career. She’s much smaller than Billie and Olivia, even Sabrina.

[Static Shock]

1 minute ago, Miss Americana said:

I'm not going back and forth

Yet, here you are going back and forth. 

 

[Redstreak]

3 minutes ago, Static Shock said:

Clearly, Taylor cares enough to lie about it. 

 

I Bet You Think About Me (Taylor’s Version)

[Verse 3: Taylor Swift]
You grew up in a silver-spoon gated community
Glamorous, shiny, bright Beverly Hills
I was raised on a farm, no, it wasn't a mansion
Just livin' room dancin' and kitchen table bills

 

And?

[Static Shock]

2 minutes ago, liquiddiamonds said:

No one can deny the impact of generational wealth, but that’s not all it takes, much less to produce a Taylor Swift. Gracie Abrams is richer than Taylor and she’s yet to chart an album inside the top 50 in the US and score a mainstream hit. I’m sure her father has fueled a lot of money into her career and she was even opening for Taylor with celebrities attending and namedropping her and it did nothing for her career. She’s much smaller than Billie and Olivia, even Sabrina.

That others haven't reached Taylor's exact level of success does not negate the fact that generational wealth is a huge advantage and grants one greater opportunities. At the end of the day, Gracie will still be rich and have opportunities much more talented black women, for example, do not have. Lack of equal opportunity is a major issue. 

[ImsoLOUD]

2 hours ago, =NEX= said:

Nothing tbh. I just don't see how Rihanna's rise to fame is inspirational when she wasn't even involved in making her own music AND has no musical talents of any kind either. 

Good thing it doesn’t matter what you are able to see  

[Static Shock]

3 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

And?

[PoisonedIvy]

45 minutes ago, Static Shock said:

Taylor has money, good PR, hype, and white privilege. The biggest star on the planet would be able to significantly impact the black community. Taylor has not. 

As a black person, no, this is not the criteria necessary. The Beatles and Elvis are some of the biggest legends in music period and most black people could give a rats ass about them 

[poki]

Breezed through it, noticed Britney talk:

 

Britney's kids won't care how great her career was.

 

Damn...he knew. 

[Saintlor]

2 minutes ago, Static Shock said:

That others haven't reached Taylor's exact level of success does not negate the fact that generational wealth is a huge advantage and grants one greater opportunities. At the end of the day, Gracie will still be rich and have opportunities much more talented black women, for example, do not have. Lack of equal opportunity is a major issue. 

There's no point in even discussing this with people. Most people don't want to admit what you're saying is true, or they somehow aren't able to understand that what you're saying is true

[liquiddiamonds]

3 minutes ago, Static Shock said:

That others haven't reached Taylor's exact level of success does not negate the fact that generational wealth is a huge advantage and grants one greater opportunities. At the end of the day, Gracie will still be rich and have opportunities much more talented black women, for example, do not have. Lack of equal opportunity is a major issue. 

And I didn’t deny that. I actually have said exactly that. But that’s why the fight for political and financial reparations to african americans and indigenous populations are so important and even the dems dont push it forward enough because it hits their pockets. Yet Taylor wouldn’t be Taylor without how she chose to use her platform. Gracie has the money to open to the biggest star on earth, have her producers work for her and realize her creative vision 100% on a major label without turning much profit. Peak privilege. Still not a Taylor and way underneath others that weren’t nepobabies. That’s the point of my argument: it’s not all what it takes…

 

Edited December 29, 2023 by liquiddiamonds

[Cleanromantic]

He sounds like a cuckold. Like the Will to Andrea's Jada. No wonder Andrea divorced him 3 years later .

[Redstreak]

9 minutes ago, Saintlor said:

There's no point in even discussing this with people. Most people don't want to admit what you're saying is true, or they somehow aren't able to understand that what you're saying is true

People here don’t believe generational wealth isn’t real? Or is the pushback against that idea that daddy’s money is the only thing that stops other people from being a Taylor swift or that it’s the only reason she’s here? There are a lot of people who win singing competitions with amazing voices and get a record deal, and then completely disappear to never be heard from again

[Static Shock]

23 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

As a black person, no, this is not the criteria necessary. The Beatles and Elvis are some of the biggest legends in music period and most black people could give a rats ass about them 

The Beatles and Elvis are considered huge legends primarily in the white community. And that's exactly my point. How can the supposed biggest artists not have significant impact in the black community globally? This is why MJ will always be #1. The Beatles and Elvis are white mediocrity personified. 

 

As Ray Charles said: "The music wasn't that good to care about." "I know too many [black] artists far greater than Elvis." 

 

 

Edited December 29, 2023 by Static Shock

[Saintlor]

7 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

People here don’t believe generational wealth isn’t real? Or is the pushback against that idea that daddy’s money is the only thing that stops other people from being a Taylor swift or that it’s the only reason she’s here? There are a lot of people who win singing competitions with amazing voices and get a record deal, and then completely disappear to never be heard from again

Probably because people on singing contests are mostly people who aren't born rich and are tricked into thinking a singing show can make them a star, meanwhile a singing show's purpose is mostly to make money from viewership and ads

 

Hence why singing shows have a low success rate of making stars

Edited December 29, 2023 by Saintlor

[Redstreak]

1 minute ago, Saintlor said:

Probably because people on singing contests are mostly people who aren't born rich and are tricked into thinking a singing show can make them a star, meanwhile a singing show's purpose is mostly to make money from viewership and ads

 

Hence why singing shows have a low success rate of making stars

So then what do you want us to do? Are people not acknowledging her wealth enough for you? Is she not donating enough for you? Like when you just throw out statements people project what they want onto it. So be direct, what do you and @Static Shock want us to do with the information being discussed

[PoisonedIvy]

4 minutes ago, Static Shock said:

The Beatles and Elvis are considered huge legends primarily in the white community. And that's exactly my point. How can the supposed biggest artists not have significant impact in the black community globally? This is why MJ will always be #1. The Beatles and Elvis are white mediocrity personified. 

 

As Ray Charles said: "The music wasn't that good to care about." "I know too many [black] artists far greater than Elvis." 

 

 

The Beatles are primarily white legends but they are also the most successful act in recording music history, regardless of racial barriers. Us black folks can *not* care about them or their music all day long but that doesn’t take that impact away from them. As the most successful act in music history, they have influenced generations upon generations of artists after them.

 

The same is going to be true of Taylor as she is on a path to become the most successful solo artist of all time after MJ. White people get privileges black people don’t but that’s just a lack of disadvantage to your beginnings, not a guaranteed spot at the finish line.
 

I don’t think the Beatles music is good enough to warrant their success but I’m just one person, why would I act like my opinion holds more weight than that of hundreds of millions of others? The same applies to Taylor, MJ, Madonna, any other legend that has their detractors.