celeb news Email from ‘Scott Swift’ (Taylor Swift’s Dad) to Taylor’s old manager in 2005 leaks

[chiliam]

On 12/30/2023 at 9:05 AM, wish said:

A huge chunk of megastars like Taylor were raised by very wealthy families who could afford to financially and emotionally support their child's wildest dreams. Throw in some industry connections and you got yourself a massive leg up on the competition. Nothing shocking here.

 

But this is exactly why I will ALWAYS loudly celebrate artists like Rihanna, Nicki, Mariah, and Britney. Artists who literally started from poverty and built an empire despite all odds stacked against them. Their success will always be 1000x more impressive to me. 

Its just the way you looked at it.

Rih, Brit was lucky to be discovered but then have the material hands to them. I mean they had charisma to make so gs become hits but the label is pushing hard and doing a lot of work to make them happen.

While in Taylor case, she got a head start with a middle class background but have to make her own material and begging people to play her songs without any major label back her up. Big Machine record is literally build from the ground and Taylor is their very 1st artist.

[Kyoto]

24 minutes ago, Dzjxdzjx said:

That was just their beach house! 

Wait I missed this

[StonedSoulPicnic]

I didn't know he worked with Bill Anderson. What a legend!

[collin]

Can we get a tdlr? No chance I’m reading even half of that.

[Taylor fanboy]

54 minutes ago, collin said:

Can we get a tdlr? No chance I’m reading even half of that.

He has erectile dysfunction.

 

[wastedpotential]

8 minutes ago, Taylor fanboy said:

He has erectile dysfunction.

 

Due to his robotic vacuum prostate removal

 

 

[Better Mistakes]

1 hour ago, collin said:

Can we get a tdlr? No chance I’m reading even half of that.

He wore diapers for 7 days and Andrea feels he’s over-stepping the mark. He doesn’t really understand why

Edited December 31, 2023 by Better Mistakes

[Monday Night Messiah]

On 12/30/2023 at 3:36 AM, =NEX= said:

Ye, but how did Rihanna make it in the business? To this day no one knows what her talents are. That Hero audition certainly couldn't have been her ticket to stardom 

 

[awesomepossum]

Am I the only one who thought it was so cute when he was like, "Taylor is the best and she will never disappoint you." Like dang! He clearly just believes in her and will do whatever he can to help her succeed. I wish my parents believed in me that much. Unfortunately I give them no reason to so  

[rihannasbe$tfrnd]

8 hours ago, collin said:

Can we get a tdlr? No chance I’m reading even half of that.

Daddy bought her career with coins and his connections cause no one was looking twice at this untalented daughter of his 

[AaronBryceSufjan]

her father doing all this because she didn't sign that RCA contract  y'all keep mentioning other artists as "true" inspirational stories when most of them were literally pushed by the major labels who had more money and more resources.

And remember this email was her father EXAGGERATING his contribution to gaslight the ex-manager. Not saying the privilege didn't exist, but why was her brother Austin Swift still not able to make it as a B-list actor in Hollywood even with all these so-called "RICH rich" family background, and at that time, Taylor's stardom?

Edited January 1 by AaronBryceSufjan

[Arrows]

He’s so funnyGood thing they got divorced…

 

As a fan, none of this surprised me. It’s clear that Taylor herself has really burned for this to happen as a child and I don’t blame the parents for doing what they can to make it happen. I’ve never given a sh*t about rags-to-riches narratives as a way to sell a career, the quality of the art is all that matters to me!

[AvadaKedavra]

Its 2024. Im sorry but we all should move from this  This thread is too 2023

Edited January 1 by AvadaKedavra

[JoeAg]

On 12/29/2023 at 11:12 AM, JoeAg said:

I’ll never understand how adult human beings with penii can say “hard on” with full seriousness  like, that term stays in puberty. it’s called a boner for gods sake

why are you guys reacting with the confused emoji for this? I’M confused now. like do you really think that’s a normal term  for saying boner in adult age? idk personally it feels weird to me

[Kimi]

On 12/29/2023 at 11:28 PM, liquiddiamonds said:

No one can deny the impact of generational wealth, but that’s not all it takes, much less to produce a Taylor Swift. Gracie Abrams is richer than Taylor and she’s yet to chart an album inside the top 50 in the US and score a mainstream hit. I’m sure her father has fueled a lot of money into her career and she was even opening for Taylor with celebrities attending and namedropping her and it did nothing for her career. She’s much smaller than Billie and Olivia, even Sabrina.

And what are posts like that trying to prove? Money is not ALL it takes? Revelation, really 

[liquiddiamonds]

14 minutes ago, Kimi said:

And what are posts like that trying to prove? Money is not ALL it takes? Revelation, really 

There’s a context to the discussion, in which people were, yes, saying money was the reason. But if you want to spend 2024 acting obtuse… good luck with that

 

[La Reina]

On 12/29/2023 at 3:51 PM, Jay07 said:

"I sold my 2 million mansion so I could move to Nashville and buy 30k copies of my daughter's album who can't sing, can't dance and can't act so I can kickstart her career"

Very brave of you to say this about Taylor while you stan/defend Britney Spears, and drag much more talented artists in the process...

 

Some of you are hypocrites with zero self-awareness. Just say you don't like Taylor and go instead of pretending like you care about privilege.

[La Reina]

On 12/29/2023 at 5:35 PM, Hey Dude said:

Breezed through it, noticed Britney talk:

 

Britney's kids won't care how great her career was.

 

Damn...he knew. 

And they don't. Almost anyone (except delusional stans) would trade having their life and family in order over having the bigger career.

 

This email should put things into perspective for stans who think the music industry is a cakewalk. It's not easy, it's brutal.

[Sannie]

On 12/29/2023 at 9:05 PM, wish said:

A huge chunk of megastars like Taylor were raised by very wealthy families who could afford to financially and emotionally support their child's wildest dreams. Throw in some industry connections and you got yourself a massive leg up on the competition. Nothing shocking here.

 

But this is exactly why I will ALWAYS loudly celebrate artists like Rihanna, Nicki, Mariah, and Britney. Artists who literally started from poverty and built an empire despite all odds stacked against them. Their success will always be 1000x more impressive to me. 

Yeah, but artists like Rihanna, Nicki, and Britney did not come from "nothing". They got lucky with their big breaks and then their labels funneled a bunch of money into their careers. It is not like they went from door to door trying to make it big. They all had their big break. Sure, money from family makes it easier, but none of those girls were independent artists who struggled to make it big lol. Once Rihanna connected with Jay Z, the rest was history. Same for Nicki with Wayne. There are probably better examples to use.

 

Nevertheless, you are right with Taylor. She was very lucky to have grown up incredibly wealthy, and I do not know why fans of rich popstars pre-fame are so mad about people bringing it up lol. It is just a fact. I think it is unique with Taylor because without her parents wealth I think it is safe to say she would have never made it big due to the fact that she is not exactly super talented. She can write songs that appeal to a certain demo, but that demo would have never came across her without her daddy's money pushing her. 

Edited January 2 by Sannie

[Arrows]

6 hours ago, Sannie said:

I think it is unique with Taylor because without her parents wealth I think it is safe to say she would have never made it big due to the fact that she is not exactly super talented. She can write songs that appeal to a certain demo, but that demo would have never came across her without her daddy's money pushing her. 

Nah, labels were fighting for her

[alestevens]

Some of y'all are really funny. I'm supposed to believe Taylor's current success isn't that impressive because she had a supportive dad that spent over $200K on kickstarting her career and then getting her signed to an unknown label, as if your faves weren't funded by multinational labels that bankrolled millions in promotion, top producers and video directors

 

It also seems worth noting that most of ATRL's faves are currently extremely accomplished and privileged multimillionaires themselves, yet money doesn't seem to be enough to keep the vast majority of them on top judging by their latest attempts.

[Auraeolux]

This email is a nice reminder that people live completely different lives. I just finished triple-checking an email to make sure it sounded professional and clear. Meanwhile, other people can get away with an unhinged stream of consciousness and still find mass success.

 

Is there a single pop star dad that is not weird af?? Taylor , Gaga, Katy , Beyonce , Nicki , Katy, Xtina, MJ, Madonna,  etc all have either odd, overly involved, or absentee dads..

[gagacasanova]

[chiliam]

22 hours ago, Sannie said:

Yeah, but artists like Rihanna, Nicki, and Britney did not come from "nothing". They got lucky with their big breaks and then their labels funneled a bunch of money into their careers. It is not like they went from door to door trying to make it big. They all had their big break. Sure, money from family makes it easier, but none of those girls were independent artists who struggled to make it big lol. Once Rihanna connected with Jay Z, the rest was history. Same for Nicki with Wayne. There are probably better examples to use.

 

Nevertheless, you are right with Taylor. She was very lucky to have grown up incredibly wealthy, and I do not know why fans of rich popstars pre-fame are so mad about people bringing it up lol. It is just a fact. I think it is unique with Taylor because without her parents wealth I think it is safe to say she would have never made it big due to the fact that she is not exactly super talented. She can write songs that appeal to a certain demo, but that demo would have never came across her without her daddy's money pushing her. 

you dont actually believe this do you? and if you think like that then it`s your opinion. Dont speak it  like a fact lol

No one can be that successful and maintain that for over 15 years and showing no sign of stopping without talent.

 

And in fact her success story is more inspiring than those girls who grow up poor but then discover by major label and receive big label push. The hardest part for them is they are lucky to be discovered.

While in Taylor`s case, she literally made herself happen. At a 11 years old convince her parents to move to Nashville, knocking on every major label doors. And then choose to go with a brand new label that literally has nothing no staff, no facility. She works her ass off to earn her success and after getting insane success, she is still work hard till this days. So get out of here with the.... "but she only made it cause of her parents`s money nonsense."  

[What_A_Mess]

Nothing we didn’t know  still the greatest solo artist since Elvis  we stan