celeb news Cher files for conservatorship of her son; UPDATE: Denied.

[getback]

y'all act like she needs money from him

it's Cher, she knows best

[Raiden]

1 hour ago, Digitalism said:

How some of you sound here:

She is in the wrong here

Just let her drug addict son spend all of his money and die 

 

 

I'm sorry but "his moeny"?

 

I thought he lived off of her

 

And if so I thought she could control him or or at least influence him without having to go thru any conservatorship?

[getback]

28 minutes ago, Tm4074 said:

Love Cher but substance abuse issues is not sufficient grounds for a conservatorship. If a judge approves this that is a violation of his human rights and we should not support it.  If we put people in conservatorships for making poor life decisions that sets a very dangerous precedent.  Millions of people struggle with substance abuse issues and make terrible life decisions like spending all their money and stealing from others as a result. However it is their right to make those decisions and they have to deal with the consequences.

 

If she's worried about his financial management she should cut him off financially and not financially support him unless he addresses his substance abuse issues.  I'm a social worker and work with individuals struggling with substance abuse and mental health conditions . The goal is supporting them with working towards self-determination, not taking away their autonomy.  Putting people with mental health conditions and substance abuse issues in conservatorships is creating a bigger societal problem in regards to our mental health care system and how we as a society treat those with mental health conditions and substance abuse issues.  Conservatorships for mental health issues is calling back to the days of institutionalization which was phased out for community based care for a reason.

 

Conservatorships are regressive and should only be considered as a very last resort meaning mental health conditions and substance abuse issues do not meet the qualifying criteria for a conservatorship.  An individual must be incapacitated with verifiable medical history of that person lacking capacity for a significant duration of time (ex: dementia).  Conservatorships are notorious for corruption and abuse due to lack of proper oversight - the government has no place putting individuals that don't meet the criteria in these horrible legal arrangements when the state doesn't provide proper resources and funding to oversee these conservatorships in the first place allowing for corruption and exploitation to run rampant.

do you KNOW any of them personally to write a whole ass essay about this claiming it's a violation of human rights?  

 

[Shimenawa]

His mother is 77 year old. He should be ashamed for putting her through this and disrespecting the life she gave him!

 

Edited December 28, 2023 by Shimenawa

[wehan6]

the people saying conservatorship should be the last resort  how do you guys know she hasn't tried everything else up until now?

[KeirGrey]

Cher doesn't need him for money, i believe it's with good intentions 

[Jewel]

1 hour ago, DawnAnti said:

Just like britney’s parents? 

Very different scenario. Cher is worth hundreds of millions of dollars and her fortune has nothing to do with her son. 

[Tm4074]

34 minutes ago, getback said:

do you KNOW any of them personally to write a whole ass essay about this claiming it's a violation of human rights?  

 

So now we can only determine what is considered a violation of human rights if we know people personally?  Wtf kind of standard is that? Not a legal one because the legal system isn't supposed to operate based on one's personal feelings or the influence/bias of stan culture that's for sure.  To answer your question, no I wrote a whole ass essay because I read the law and have first hand experience working with these populations thus have strong opinions about it. Conservatorships for substance abuse issues and mental health conditions is a violation of one's human rights. I'm not "claiming" anything - I'm stating it. 

Edited December 28, 2023 by Tm4074

[Troll Idle]

1 hour ago, Totami Legend said:

lawyers eating them up lmfaoooo

 

aka we want to control his money 

I'm pretty sure she has enough of her own

[wehan6]

1 hour ago, Joesuxx said:

Where as I’m sure she’s well intentioned and there’s clearly a lot we don’t know - substance misuse isn’t a reason to put someone under a conservatorship and if she’s successful is she gonna stop working to focus on him, because miss thing has spent the best part of a month in london being a star as opposed to at home being a mom to her child she’s apparently so worried about. I love Cher but a conservatorship is questionable. 

well this is unfair sis. she's a musician, going out and promoting her new album is literally part of her job. just because she's working and isn't by his side 24/7 doesn't mean she doesn't care about him

[Shinning]

1 hour ago, Totami Legend said:

lawyers eating them up lmfaoooo

 

aka we want to control his money 

I mean it's not like he must have that much money that isn't hers.

This isn't a Britney situation at all. Britney was the family's breadwinner. Cher is that in hers.

[Iceland]

We support her

[BionicWooHoo]

Cher is way better off financially and doesn’t need to leech off her son. The way some of you all lack critical skills is astounding 

[Raptus]

1 hour ago, Totami Legend said:

lawyers eating them up lmfaoooo

 

aka we want to control his money 

you think THE Cher needs his 5.99$?

[Digitalism]

37 minutes ago, Raiden said:

I'm sorry but "his moeny"?

 

I thought he lived off of her

 

And if so I thought she could control him or or at least influence him without having to go thru any conservatorship?

He is the son of the singer of the Allman Brothers . He dies in 2017 so he probably inherited some money 

[RIKI232]

unlike Britney's father, she don't need the money or take advantage of him, so i want to believe she's doing it for the right reasons. 

[Digitalism]

51 minutes ago, barbiegrande said:

Taking away someone’s liberties is NOT rehabilitation. 
 

Tbh if her son wants to waste his money on drugs and harm himself, that’s his right. She can obviously want to help, but controlling his assets is too far and sets a dangerous precedent 

Let me guess you also believe that it's Nicki's right to give money to the victim of her husband to shut her up ? 

[crf13]

The bigger issue is if something happens to Cher, then, Brenda Penny (yes, the same judge in Britney’s case is working on this case) will just appoint a conservator from the system, who will just extend the cship every year while controlling Elijah’s finances aka the money he inherits from Cher and his father. 

[XtinaStripped]

Cher was very supportive of Britney getting out her situation and she doesn’t need money. We don’t know the full story here but I believe in life after love.

[Beyonnaise]

It’s so weird how people extracted Britney’s case to mean every single conservatorship is oppressive and evil. Clearly some instances warrant one, like severe mental illness and yes, deadly drug addiction. I can’t comment on Cher’s case specifically but it certainly is different than Britney’s situation given that Cher has hundreds of millions of dollars on her own and her son is financially reliant on her.

Edited December 28, 2023 by Beyonnaise

[Happylittlepunk]

Kanye should be next. 
 

[James_Dean]

A lot of context is needed regarding the situation before some of you make such bold statements 

[Apolonio ₃₄]

Not random people on a pop forum thinking they know what’s best for someone else’s child with a severe addiction. Get real.

[Cruel Summer]

It’s a little weird to assume we know everything about this man’s life and their family from one court filing. I’m sure we’ll find out more, but jumping to any conclusions about this situation is irresponsible. 

[blaggot]

this isn't comparable to britney's situation ffs  the power balance is the complete opposite