celeb news Cher files for conservatorship of her son; UPDATE: Denied.

[Gelato]

I know the means aren't ideal but I'd imagine if you're a (good) parent and you're watching your child spiral like this, you will do whatever it takes to prevent a very tragic end.

 

Obviously Britney wasn't fortunate enough to have good parents who didn't want to exploit her, and the conservatorship was wrong for her. But hopefully in this case it has a positive outcome

Edited December 28, 2023 by Gelato

[jezebelvictoria]

Not y’all thinking you know anything about these situations just because you Stan a pop star. 

[prézli]

I thought she had 1 kid, tho???

[tachiwaka]

9 minutes ago, jezebelvictoria said:

Not y’all thinking you know anything about these situations just because you Stan a pop star. 

Right. I love Britney down boots pat kick kat bam, but there is a clear difference between middle-class Jamie and Lynn Spears controlling money for millionaire Britney Spears, and millionaire Cher controlling money for her son, who apparently actively depends on her financially.

 

Conservators can be a major problem, but conservatorships are not a problem.

[prettyinpink940]

39 minutes ago, Totami Legend said:

lawyers eating them up lmfaoooo

 

aka we want to control his money 

yeah because he surely has more money than Cher herself 

[ShouldersSideways]

The total lack of nuance from some people in here  

 

Conservatorships exist for a reason. She's clearly trying to save her son's life and unlike Britney's parents has no reason to do it otherwise.

[Mtjjproducer]

30 minutes ago, Totami Legend said:

lawyers eating them up lmfaoooo

 

aka we want to control his money 

Yes because THE CHER needs to control the money of her  much  less rich junkie son. 

[Blue Monday]

In what world does CHER need her son for money  what are y'all on? 

[alexrex]

40 minutes ago, barbiegrande said:

No disrespect to Cher, but I think any parent putting their adult child in a conservatorship is odd. People will give be more forgiving of her though because society has this idea that mom’s always know best. 

 

34 minutes ago, Digitalism said:

How some of you sound here:

She is in the wrong here

Just let her drug addict son spend all of his money and die 

Her son is a drug addict (according to the sources). You can't ask someone who deals with an illness like that to have a wiser perspective on their finances until they get a proper treatment for the disease. Until then, it seems reasonable. It's her son. 

 

i'm pretty sure you would think differently if you had children. This is way different from the Britney conservatorship since 1. He cannot take proper care of himself and 2. She has no reason to take advantage of her son's money since she's rich already. 

[Daddy]

She wants to save her babys life and I respect that but drug addiction isn't something you can force out of someones life. I would try everything possible to help them along the way though and I'm sure Cher tried everything, that's why she's at this point now. 

 

 

[Dark Phoenix]

36 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

What do you expect her to do? He's been a junkie since he was a teenager

Put him in rehab? She should have been a good mother then because how on earth a teenager becomes a junkie? It’s not like she was super busy in the 90s and 00s.

 

Anyway this is nasty and shady, why not asking him to go to rehab or an intervention or a life coach? And well he’s a grownup and if he wastes the money well it’s on him and don’t put him in the will. 

[Tm4074]

Love Cher but substance abuse issues is not sufficient grounds for a conservatorship. If a judge approves this that is a violation of his human rights and we should not support it.  If we put people in conservatorships for making poor life decisions that sets a very dangerous precedent.  Millions of people struggle with substance abuse issues and make terrible life decisions like spending all their money and stealing from others as a result. However it is their right to make those decisions and they have to deal with the consequences.

 

If she's worried about his financial management she should cut him off financially and not financially support him unless he addresses his substance abuse issues.  I'm a social worker and work with individuals struggling with substance abuse and mental health conditions . The goal is supporting them with working towards self-determination, not taking away their autonomy.  Putting people with mental health conditions and substance abuse issues in conservatorships is creating a bigger societal problem in regards to our mental health care system and how we as a society treat those with mental health conditions and substance abuse issues.  Conservatorships for mental health issues is calling back to the days of institutionalization which was phased out for community based care for a reason.

 

Conservatorships are regressive and should only be considered as a very last resort meaning mental health conditions and substance abuse issues do not meet the qualifying criteria for a conservatorship.  An individual must be incapacitated with verifiable medical history of that person lacking capacity for a significant duration of time (ex: dementia).  Conservatorships are notorious for corruption and abuse due to lack of proper oversight - the government has no place putting individuals that don't meet the criteria in these horrible legal arrangements when the state doesn't provide proper resources and funding to oversee these conservatorships in the first place allowing for corruption and exploitation to run rampant.

[ShouldersSideways]

2 minutes ago, Dark Phoenix said:

Put him in rehab? She should have been a good mother then because how on earth a teenager becomes a junkie? It’s not like she was super busy in the 90s and 00s.

This is such a backwards take. Plenty of kids fall into addiction even when they have the best of parents.

[Daddy]

3 minutes ago, Dark Phoenix said:

She should have been a good mother then because how on earth a teenager becomes a junkie?

You have no idea about addiction and it shows. 

[dumbsparce]

Do you guys seriously think Cher of all people is the kind of person who would take advantage of her sons' money? Ofc I don't know her personally but to suggest that she's the female Jamie Spears simply bc she's taking the legal route to protect her child is naive to say the least.

[Space]

39 minutes ago, LOTF said:

I thought this was about Chaz. I didn't know she had more children 

I didn’t know either!

[Headlock]

4 minutes ago, Dark Phoenix said:

Put him in rehab? She should have been a good mother then because how on earth a teenager becomes a junkie? It’s not like she was super busy in the 90s and 00s.

 

Anyway this is nasty and shady, why not asking him to go to rehab or an intervention or a life coach? And well he’s a grownup and if he wastes the money well it’s on him and don’t put him in the will. 

What an abhorrent thing to say. You clearly know nothing about addiction.

[lauren198]

From what I read he's getting a trust fund from his rockstar father who died in 2017, from The Allman Brothers band and she probably controlled his acess to her money as a way to control his addiction but she can't do the same to his dad money and she's probably freaking out

Edited December 28, 2023 by lauren198

[PopKills]

38 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said:

She's not a woman who's living by coupons, she has money, she's very likely doing this to prevent her son from ODing or from spending more money on drugs.

 

[tomo]

Not y'all thinking Cher wants the money. She's literally Cher and richer.

Spoiler

And in her 70s

 

[Khal]

This isn’t comparable to Britney’s case where it seems the conservatorship was orchestrated to exploit her and her finances.

 

In this case it seems Cher is the one financing his lifestyle and she’s worried about the decisions he’s making as an addict. 

[barbiegrande]

1 hour ago, Digitalism said:

How some of you sound here:

She is in the wrong here

Just let her drug addict son spend all of his money and die 

Taking away someone’s liberties is NOT rehabilitation. 
 

Tbh if her son wants to waste his money on drugs and harm himself, that’s his right. She can obviously want to help, but controlling his assets is too far and sets a dangerous precedent 

[barbiegrande]

16 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

Do you guys seriously think Cher of all people is the kind of person who would take advantage of her sons' money? Ofc I don't know her personally but to suggest that she's the female Jamie Spears simply bc she's taking the legal route to protect her child is naive to say the least.

Give me a break. Yall are only coming to her defense because she’s a female gay icon. If any man did this to their child, the reactions here would be way different.

[ALΞX]

I give her the benefit of the doubt until I hear otherwise. She doesn’t strike me as the type to be malicious, but 🤷🏼‍♂️

[dumbsparce]

4 minutes ago, barbiegrande said:

Give me a break. Yall are only coming to her defense because she’s a female gay icon. If any man did this to their child, the reactions here would be way different.

Jamie Spears was a bankrupt alcoholic wanting to take over his millionaire daughter's life. Cher and her son's situation is literally the exact opposite. It's not about gender dynamics but the financial status of the people involved. It's clear as day