news Muslim Fulani tribe massacres 140+ villagers in Nigeria over Xmas - 10k ppl displaced

[Bosque]

 

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KANO/ABUJA, Nigeria, Dec 26 (Reuters, AP) - Nigerian mother-of-three Grace Godwin was preparing food on Christmas Eve when her husband burst into the kitchen and ordered her and the children to run and take cover in the bush after gunmen were spotted in a nearby village.

Soon they heard gunfire, starting an hours-long attack by suspected nomadic herders [Fulani tribe] who rampaged through 15 villages in central Plateau state on Sunday, killing at least 140 people with guns and machetes, officials, police and residents said.

Gunmen attacked remote villages over the weekend in north-central Nigeria’s Plateau state, killing at least 140 people, officials and survivors said Tuesday, the latest case this year of such mass killings blamed on the farmer-herder crisis in the West African nation.

The assailants targeted 17 communities in “senseless and unprovoked” attacks on Saturday and Sunday, burning down most houses in the area, Plateau Gov. Caleb Mutfwang said in a broadcast on the local Channels Television.

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“As I am talking to you, in Mangu local governorate alone, we buried 15 people. As of this morning, in Bokkos, we are counting not less than 100 corpses. I am yet to take stock of (the deaths in) Barkin Ladi,” Mutfwan said. “It has been a very terrifying Christmas for us here in Plateau."

 

Amnesty International's Nigeria office told The Associated Press that it has so far confirmed 140 deaths in the Christian-dominated Bokkos and Barkin-Ladi areas of Plateau, based on data compiled by its workers on the ground and from local officials. There were fears of a higher death toll as some people remained unaccounted for.

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As the President ordered the arrest of the killers, the Chairman of Community Peace Observers in the Bokkos Local Government Area, Kefas Mallai, told one of our correspondents that over 150 were killed by the gunmen.

 

Mallai also said information indicated that the gunmen were still attacking some villages, adding that over 10,000 people were displaced by the attacks, which had attracted strong condemnation by prominent groups and individuals including northern governors and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Tajudeen Abbas.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/nigerian-villagers-missing-two-days-after-suspected-nomadic-herders-kill-140-2023-12-26/

https://time.com/6551014/nigeria-farmer-herder-mass-killing/

https://punchng.com/outrage-as-plateau-massacre-claims-150-over-10000-displaced/

[alexrex]

Always the religion of love 

[Яeo.]

Wtf

[FOCK]

1 hour ago, alexrex said:

Always the religion of love 

The extremist, self-imposed “representatives” of the Fulani practice Wahhabism, an ideological inversion of Islam founded in the 1700’s. 
 

Most Muslims reject Wahhabism & view its adherents as apostates. A large amount of Fulani people themselves, which are nomadic, displaced tribespeople, do not support these terrorists, which purportedly have ties to IS, but they unfortunately find themselves at their mercy & are often stigmatised because of their presumed association.
 

The biggest victims of this religious perversion, are Muslim communities themselves. 
 

Regardless, this has been a decades long conflict over power/land access - not religious or ideological. 
 

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Abdullsalam Abubakar, who commands the army’s special intervention operation in Plateau and neighboring states, said his forces “will not rest” until they find those responsible.

Rest in peace to the victims & I hope these monsters are caught & eliminated. 

Edited December 27, 2023 by FOCK

[Aethereal]

R.I.P to the victims. 

[chaklux]

This is so sad

[Bosque]

38 minutes ago, FOCK said:

 

Regardless, this has been a decades long conflict over land access - not religious or ideological. 
 

 

 

Must be a pure coincidence that these attacks keep happening in churches and around holidays:

 

Nigerian Mass Becomes a Massacre: Herdsmen Kill 18 Worshipers, Adding to Hundreds of Victims

More than 50 people were killed during Mass on Pentecost Sunday in Nigeria

In the May 8 raid by a band of Fulani herdsmen on St. Peter's Catholic Church in the village of Hirnyam, a dozen people were killed

In the Sabon-Gari area, 30 believers were killed. Two church buildings belonging to the Church of Christ in Nations (COCIN) and Living Faith were set on fire.  

 

I'm sure if 150 Muslims were killed in a Mosque during Eid Al-Adha, you would have the same reaction and call this a "non-religious conflict"

[FOCK]

30 minutes ago, Dephira said:

Must be a pure coincidence that these attacks keep happening in churches and around holidays:

 

Nigerian Mass Becomes a Massacre: Herdsmen Kill 18 Worshipers, Adding to Hundreds of Victims

More than 50 people were killed during Mass on Pentecost Sunday in Nigeria

In the May 8 raid by a band of Fulani herdsmen on St. Peter's Catholic Church in the village of Hirnyam, a dozen people were killed

In the Sabon-Gari area, 30 believers were killed. Two church buildings belonging to the Church of Christ in Nations (COCIN) and Living Faith were set on fire.  

 

I'm sure if 150 Muslims were killed in a Mosque during Eid Al-Adha, you would have the same reaction and call this a "non-religious conflict"

October 16 2021, an IS suicide bomber killed 63 Shiaa muslims in a mosque in Southern Afghanistan. 
 

This group also massacres Fulani farmers - their own people - they don’t exclusively target other faiths. 
 

It’s the same destructive, maniacal ideology in practice (often armed by the West, mind you.)
 

I don’t view it as religious, because their actions have no legitimate religious basis, nor religious support. It’s nothing more than a cover to commit atrocities to spread fear & division, to self enrich & empower. 

Edited December 27, 2023 by FOCK

[Pikachoo]

Wow, this is so sad. my heart goes out to them all. hopefully the pro palestine protestors denounce this attack

[Bosque]

16 minutes ago, FOCK said:

October 16 2021, an IS suicide bomber killed 63 Shiaa muslims in a mosque in Southern Afghanistan. 
 

This group also massacres Fulani farmers - their own people - they don’t exclusively target other faiths. 
 

It’s the same destructive, maniacal ideology in practice (often armed by the West, mind you.)
 

I don’t view it as religious, because their actions have no legitimate religious basis, nor religious support. It’s nothing more than a cover to commit atrocities to spread fear & division, to self enrich & empower. 

ISIL is closer to the Sunni school and has always persecuted and killed Shia Muslims. That's a whole other conflict (but also a religious/ideological one) which has nothing to do with this one.

 

If storming a church on a Christian Holiday and shouting Allahu Akbar while killing everyone inside isn't a religious conflict, I don't know what is

 

[FOCK]

37 minutes ago, Dephira said:

ISIL is closer to the Sunni school and has always persecuted and killed Shia Muslims. That's a whole other conflict (but also a religious/ideological one) which has nothing to do with this one.

 

If storming a church on a Christian Holiday and shouting Allahu Akbar while killing everyone inside isn't a religious conflict, I don't know what is

 

Wahhabism is also Sunni based, technically. Sunni Muslims still overwhelmingly reject & condemn it & there is a vast difference. 

 

Oh wow, religious scholar Dephira has spoken. Just add a “god is great” to your atrocities y’all, suddenly they’re “religious” & you too can be spun in bad faith by opportunists on a pop forum, as representative of billions of people, despite them overwhelmingly rejecting you & literally warring against you & despite these actions being antithetical to the religion & despite the Muslim leader of the Plateau’s army denouncing the act & asserting that the perpetrators will be bought to justice. 

We’re expected to believe Dephira has a history of genuine concern for the victims of this Nigerian community, and that this wasn’t just a cheap way they could have their happy fingers type “Muslims kill Christians” as a thread. Not even the articles linked gave them religious designation in their headlines. They’re just criminal terrorists. 

Edited December 27, 2023 by FOCK

[Infinite]

that type of muslims are satanic gross people.

Edited December 27, 2023 by Infinite

[Riverbank]

17 minutes ago, Dephira said:

ISIL is closer to the Sunni school and has always persecuted and killed Shia Muslims. That's a whole other conflict (but also a religious/ideological one) which has nothing to do with this one.

 

If storming a church on a Christian Holiday and shouting Allahu Akbar while killing everyone inside isn't a religious conflict, I don't know what is

 

Last time I had an interaction with that user he bluntly told me that terrorist attacks carried out by ISIS were not religiously motivated at all. Don’t waste your time

 

OT: RIP to the victims. This is absolutely tragic

[Bosque]

23 minutes ago, Riverbank said:

Last time I had an interaction with that user he bluntly told me that terrorist attacks carried out by ISIS were not religiously motivated at all. Don’t waste your time

 

OT: RIP to the victims. This is absolutely tragic

Well that kinda explains things because the mental gymnastics required to consider this “non-religious”…  

[Companion]

1 hour ago, Riverbank said:

Last time I had an interaction with that user he bluntly told me that terrorist attacks carried out by ISIS were not religiously motivated at all. Don’t waste your time

 

OT: RIP to the victims. This is absolutely tragic

 

54 minutes ago, Dephira said:

Well that kinda explains things because the mental gymnastics required to consider this “non-religious”…  

Are you guys slow? They meant the terrorist organizations using the name of Islam for their attacts is not solely based on religious reasons indeed they are ruining image of the Islam. They are not religiously motivated because the attackers themselves doesnt even know a thing about Islam and people like you triggered when you see or heard anything muslim related. Of course most of the members of this forum are not muslim and could be manipulated by the media. But at least you can respect and dont act like a shady bxch when someone defends their beliefs or share their opinions.

 

Muslims don't think about bombing churchs or unalive other people or have satisfaction when these happen.

[State of Grace.]

2 hours ago, Pikachoo said:

Wow, this is so sad. my heart goes out to them all. hopefully the pro palestine protestors denounce this attack

What do Palestine and the pro-Palestine protestors have to do with?

 

It's just crazy to me how you all look at everyone outside of your Western bubble as one group of (barbaric, savage, muslim) people.

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An absolute tragedy.  My heart goes out to all victims of Saudi Arabia's export of the cancerous Wahhabist ideology. 

Edited December 27, 2023 by State of Grace.

[Communion]

2 hours ago, Dephira said:

Must be a pure coincidence that these attacks keep happening in churches and around holidays:

 

Nigerian Mass Becomes a Massacre: Herdsmen Kill 18 Worshipers, Adding to Hundreds of Victims

More than 50 people were killed during Mass on Pentecost Sunday in Nigeria

In the May 8 raid by a band of Fulani herdsmen on St. Peter's Catholic Church in the village of Hirnyam, a dozen people were killed

In the Sabon-Gari area, 30 believers were killed. Two church buildings belonging to the Church of Christ in Nations (COCIN) and Living Faith were set on fire.  

 

I'm sure if 150 Muslims were killed in a Mosque during Eid Al-Adha, you would have the same reaction and call this a "non-religious conflict"

I'm glad I reported your original post cause the bold reveals you are just rage farming out of some weird anti-Palestinian sentiment that leads to incoherent projection of religious conflict onto tribal conflict between people over land. 

[Communion]

2 hours ago, Pikachoo said:

Wow, this is so sad. my heart goes out to them all. hopefully the pro palestine protestors denounce this attack

The fact that this outs you as thinking the Israeli occupation of Palestine upsets people because many Palestinians are Muslims (one of the main resistance groups working with Hamas is led by a Christian Palestinian and the Marxist-Leninist group are largely young secular Palestinian atheists ) and not because it is a brutal *industrialized* form of mass slaughter that is both done in the name of and funded by Western powers who fashion themselves as the world police and moral authority. 

 

You have essentially admitted that you cannot think of Palestinians as people and can't see beyond their largely Muslim identity and that whatever anti-Muslim biases you have now color your hatred of them as a people undergoing genocide, to where the first time national Nigerian politics and herdsmen feuding with farmers over land rights has ever popped into your mind is to only delegitimize the horror at over 20,000 carpet-bombed to death. 

[Communion]

1 hour ago, Dephira said:

Well that kinda explains things because the mental gymnastics required to consider this “non-religious”…  

 

2 hours ago, Pikachoo said:

Wow, this is so sad. my heart goes out to them all. hopefully the pro palestine protestors denounce this attack

It's clear what happening here. @Bloo @khalyan 

[Pikachoo]

3 minutes ago, Communion said:

 

It's clear what happening here. @Bloo @khalyan 

Leave me alone you psychopath.

[Raptus]

45 minutes ago, Companion said:

Are you guys slow? They meant the terrorist organizations using the name of Islam for their attacts is not solely based on religious reasons indeed they are ruining image of the Islam. They are not religiously motivated because the attackers themselves doesnt even know a thing about Islam and people like you triggered when you see or heard anything muslim related. Of course most of the members of this forum are not muslim and could be manipulated by the media. But at least you can respect and dont act like a shady bxch when someone defends their beliefs or share their opinions.

 

Muslims don't think about bombing churchs or unalive other people or have satisfaction when these happen.

 Doesn't matter. All religions are bad.  Especially Abrahamic religions like Christianity/Islam/Judaism. Peaceful world would be a world without them all.

Edited December 27, 2023 by Raptus

[Johnny Jacobs]

 The mod tagging  yall really don't know how to handle a conversation when the narrative doesn't fit your "agenda". 

 

OT: that's sad, barbaric and unsurprising unfortunately. 

 

All religions needs to accept that they have to coexist and don't force a certain belief upon another. 

 

Enough is enough

[Communion]

30 minutes ago, Johnny Jacobs said:

when the narrative doesn't fit

The irony being that the nomadic nature of many Fulani see them referred to online from what I see by other Nigerians as settlers, similar to Israel. With you yourself also a settler violently occupying another people's land. 

 

You and others are not even sure how you want to connect Nigerian politics to Palestine. 

 

1) You and the OP seem to be implying that those outraged over the Israeli occupation of Palestine should be - for some reason - deeply invested in Fulani herdsman expanding their already huge presence in Nigeria and the violent conflicts that occur from these tribal conflicts, or else be accused of....hypocrisy? That you think Israeli settlers draw more ire than Fulani settlers because they're Jewish and not Muslim (as opposed to Israel being industrialized and militarized to the tune of billions with relations to multiple superpowers)?

 

2) Yet your friend Pikachoo gives the game away and thinks the takeaway is that Palestinians and the Fulani are one in the same as a people and representative of one another because they're both...Muslim? Huh?

 

Genuinely this framing oh "FULANI JIHADISTS MASSACRE CHRISTIANS AND THE PALESTINIAN SUPPORTERS ARE SILENT" does not exist outside of neo-nazi and far right accounts. Where are you as a person when your political motivations and beliefs end up completely overlapping with reverred commentators like "End Wokeness"? 

 

Of course violence is upsetting. Where would you see anyone support a group of bandits kill people over disputes over cattle and farming? But what does tribal violence in Nigeria have to do with a global conflict in the Middle East and the industrialized genocide of Palestinians? What implication is being attempted and what drives someone to use Nigerians as pawns in this weird resentment towards Palestinians?

Edited December 27, 2023 by Communion

[Johnny Jacobs]

5 minutes ago, Communion said:

The irony being that the nomadic nature of many Fulani see them referred to online from what I see by other Nigerians as settlers, similar to Israel. With you yourself also a settler violently occupying another people's land. 

 

You and others are not even sure how you want to connect Nigerian politics to Palestine. 

 

1) You and the OP seem to be implying that those outraged over the Israeli occupation of Palestine should be - for some reason - deeply invested in Fulani herdsman expanding their already huge presence in Nigeria and the violent conflicts that occur from these tribal conflicts, or else be accused of....hypocrisy? That you think Israeli settlers draw more ire than Fulani settlers because they're Jewish and not Muslim (as opposed to Israel being industrialized and militarized to the tune of billions with relations to multiple superpowers)?

 

2) Yet your friend Pikachoo gives the game away and thinks the takeaway is that Palestinians and the Fulani are one in the same as a people and representative of one another because they're both...Muslim? Huh?

 

Genuinely this framing oh "FULANI JIHADISTS MASSACRE CHRISTIANS AND THE PALESTINIAN SUPPORTERS ARE SILENT" does not exist outside of neo-nazi and far right accounts. Where are you as a person when your political motivations and beliefs end up completely overlapping with reverred commentators like "End Wokeness"? 

 

Of course violence is upsetting. Where would you see anyone support a group of bandits kill people over disputes over cattle and farming? But what does tribal violence in Nigeria have to do with a global conflict in the Middle East and the industrialized genocide of Palestinians? What implication is being attempted and what drives someone to use Nigerians as pawns in this weird resentment towards Palestinians?

Im not reading all that   delusional empty assumptions and kindergarten insults. 

 

The fact that you constantly attack others with those assays thinking your slick was never and is in vain. 

 

Strongly recommend to try and find better use of your time. 

[ZeroSuitBritney]

So disgusting. So much evil in the world, it is hard to keep track.

 

Side note: notice how this thread has quickly become an anti-Muslim thread and tying it to Palestinians and their supporters, inferring that all Muslims are the same. But in the Palestine/Israel thread, our defense of Palestine and anger at Israel has nothing to do with those who follow the Jewish faith, but the Israeli government, policies, and army, along with country built on displacement and terrorism of a group of people.