Bussea Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) The OTH talking about “good article! many points!!!” as if they know how to read But we get it. You hate Taylor, white feminist, lesbian etc. etc. can we wrap it UP Edited December 22, 2023 by Cult Leader 𐕣𐕣 1 3 1
Trent W Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 Taylor is good at making music and a brilliant woman, a legend in music but there’s where it all stops, just in her music. No one follows her for her feminism or political position That’s just like an extra or like a “oh good for her”. With her is all about the music 4
WildHeart Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Perfect Blue said: we are yet again forced to listen to Taylor Swift whine about how Kanye West leaked a phone call 10 years ago or something. Who did force you to read it 1
Arrows Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Perfect Blue said: Thousands of people dying in Gaza while journalists risk their lives documenting Israel's crimes against humanity. Instead of spotlighting one of those deserving journalists for TIME's person of the year we are yet again forced to listen to Taylor Swift whine about how Kanye West leaked a phone call 10 years ago or something. Forced? Where?
Mr. Mendes Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Perfect Blue said: Thousands of people dying in Gaza while journalists risk their lives documenting Israel's crimes against humanity. Instead of spotlighting one of those deserving journalists for TIME's person of the year we are yet again forced to listen to Taylor Swift whine about how Kanye West leaked a phone call 10 years ago or something. I agree with you that Taylor shouldn’t have been on the cover, especially given the current circumstances. Thar said…it isn’t her fault Time chose her, and it’s weird to try and make a decision she had nothing to do with be something to knock her for?
spiritboy Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 The amount of hate Taylor gets just because she’s so successful 2 1
perfect blue Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr. Mendes said: I agree with you that Taylor shouldn’t have been on the cover, especially given the current circumstances. Thar said…it isn’t her fault Time chose her, and it’s weird to try and make a decision she had nothing to do with be something to knock her for? I don't think it's weird to critically discuss moments in pop culture. Why do you? Besides, Taylor Swift™ is a billion dollar proprietorship and as such should face the same scrutiny that other billion dollar operations do. 1
Jeremiah Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Perfect Blue said: Thousands of people dying in Gaza while journalists risk their lives documenting Israel's crimes against humanity. Instead of spotlighting one of those deserving journalists for TIME's person of the year we are yet again forced to listen to Taylor Swift whine about how Kanye West leaked a phone call 10 years ago or something. Taylor borrowed herself to be the screen that covers the obvious actual topic of the year. It’s not even comical the irony of American capitalism being spotlighted over the long-running genocide they’ve been funding. 1
Folklore89sm Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 What a directionless and altogether daft word salad. The fact that this journalist is getting paid to fanfiction-ise Taylor Swift counting the freckles on her chest just to trade on her name is rather pathetic. I just hope my accessing of the article through the “archive” site doesn’t contribute to this sad woman’s bank balance. 1 1
Folklore89sm Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 4 hours ago, GentleDance said: it's giving Absolutely moronic. These writers will say anything to tear down a popstar doing their job because they know the use of their name in an article title will pay their rent that month.
Rose Posted December 23, 2023 Author Posted December 23, 2023 11 hours ago, Trent W said: Taylor is good at making music and a brilliant woman, a legend in music but there’s where it all stops, just in her music. No one follows her for her feminism or political position That’s just like an extra or like a “oh good for her”. With her is all about the music If it's all about the music, then how come Lana Del Rey isn't a billionaire? Is Taylor's music that superior?
liquiddiamonds Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) The article is confusing. It starts off well and sound with a criticism of how the press has been leeching on Taylor's popularity. We all know Taylor brings clicks, views and moves the information economy. I don't even think it's payola from her team. It's just that she's a subject that constantly drives attention in an era that not many do. Do y'all seriously think a Gaza Journalists Person of the Year for TIME would sell magazines? Taylor's cover is already their best-selling issue in years. She had the perfect balance between commercial appealing and relevant throughout the year for the title. To speak highly and positive is a given, since the fans will not consume negative material about their faves - and some will even target the journalists. It's not a Taylor-only thing, though. Journalists have been doing that for anyone that has a avid base. Then it loses itself. Honestly it's 2023. People should know better than to make celebrities their empowerment icons. Celebrities should be treated exactly as what they are: artists and/or entertainments. Learn to connect to the art without making the artist a property or an inspiring living example when we have zero idea of their lives behind the scenes or beyond social media. The re-recording thing is very naive. The only thing Taylor did was bring further awareness that artists were not automatically owners of their own vision. People were not as tuned in as how the industry works as those that live here consuming pop music 24/7 in ATRL, for example. Labels already created means that won't allow new artists to re-record their music, so the only way to go is to still own your masters from the get-go, like Olivia did. Adults that seriously think that Taylor is some kind of a music Messiah that would have the power to change the industry for others must have incredibly hollow heads of their own. The royalties situation with Spotify was enough evidence that Taylor can bargain some, but not change how a corporate industry functions. No one could. She's the exception, someone that can ignore studios for her own successful movie and have old music smashing like new releases over and over during a calendar year. Only class action could slowly start a change for others. Edited December 23, 2023 by liquiddiamonds 3
Uncatena Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, liquiddiamonds said: Learn to connect to the art without making the artist a property or an inspiring living example when we have zero idea of their lives behind the scenes or beyond social media. !!!!!
Sabrina Carpenter Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 y’all would be so bored if Taylor didn’t exist 1 1
Saint James Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 i mean it’s no secret that she’s a business woman…?
Trent W Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Rose said: If it's all about the music, then how come Lana Del Rey isn't a billionaire? Is Taylor's music that superior? Her music is more accesible and easy to reate to Lana in like 10x more niche I think that’s just obvious
Meev Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 I love how OTHs constantly talks about how Taylor Swift is blah blah blah instead of focusing on more important issues or improving their own lives.
Rose Posted December 23, 2023 Author Posted December 23, 2023 I think some have missed the point of this article. The writer is not saying that Taylor should do more in terms of empowerment or that she should be more political or whatever. She's saying the fans and the music press are now acting like she is. It's the same thing Harry Styles fans do when they hail him as a queer icon for wearing sparkly clothes and waving pride flags So they feel morally superior for supporting him. 3
Kill Me Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Rose said: I think some have missed the point of this article. The writer is not saying that Taylor should do more in terms of empowerment or that she should be more political or whatever. She's saying the fans and the music press are now acting like she is. It's the same thing Harry Styles fans do when they hail him as a queer icon for wearing sparkly clothes and waving pride flags So they feel morally superior for supporting him. You are talking out of your ass. No one considers Taylor an empowerment or political icon. You have Beyonce for that (who still hasn't said anything about Gaza BTW). Her TIME cover is a result of her being extremely influential in the business side of the music industry along with her unavoidable media attention all throughout this year in the era where monoculture no longer exists. It is not political... like at all. The POTY was chosen in October and the Isr-Pal war broke out too late for them to choose someone from that topic as their POTY. if you are quoting me to defend yourself, start the post with political articles written by press (that is not dragging her). I just checked and all the articles are about MAGAs dragging her or her being silent(despite her having the power to influence elections). 1
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