celeb news Billboard warns Nicki, threatens to lower PF2 first week sales

[Scheissex]

[collin]

Why is she like this?  

[getBusy]

4 minutes ago, Perth said:

I do think the pathological liar is trying to divert her stans from the real reason billboard won’t count sales and it’s because of her fraudulent vinyls. FRAUD

100000% - They probably reached out to talk about vinyls and she felt like she had to come up with some sort of public narrative like she's been doing for the last few years, along the lines of "they hate me" and "they don't want me to succeed". Classic Nicki.

Edited December 15, 2023 by getBusy

[KevinKDC]

I don’t know why y’all are attacking her. She has a valid point.

[thirdward]

6 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

It’s not her fault the barbz are loyal 

In 10 years people will believe she sold 300k

she kinda won 

[CatchIt]

1 hour ago, alexrex said:

She's a 40yo woman with a child at home, and still fighting about charts on twitter 

 

One would think at that age you may start to mature a lil bit. 

There are 30+ year old men in this forum fighting about whether Beyoncé or Taylor Swift is bigger lmao. ATRL is not the forum to talk about maturity 

Edited December 15, 2023 by CatchIt

[elincomprendid]

11 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

If I understand correctly... the problem is that she asked the fans to prove that they have bought the album and she sold vinyls that are missing more than a half of the album, and they are about to not count those sales? If that's the case, those sales really shouldn't be counted.

 

I also agree that other artists try to scam their stans into buying a hundred versions of the album, just for the numbers and money. They, also, should face some consequences. However, it is true that Nicki is not classy about it, at all. 

The issue is that an artist can't incentivate album sales by a giveaway or by a promise of a possible other outcome. Same thing happened earlier this year with Travis Scott trying to get his Drake collab to #1 just for it to not even go #2 after all the sales got filtered cause of it 

The rule has existed for ages, Nicki obviously just trying to say they invented it for her cause she thinks she is somehow way more important than what she really is. Nothing new has happened the rules were public and known if she doesn't well that's a her issue not Billboard's

[justin.]

Single-handedly the most embarrassing active pop star. 

 

I guess the industry change she was speaking of is that Billboard will now crack down on scams! 

[dumbsparce]

I'm confused. I thought this would be about the vinyls containing half the album but it seems to be about sth else that I can't quite figure out based on her tweets.

[ImpressMeMuch]

3 minutes ago, CatchIt said:

There are 30+ year old men in this forum fighting about whether Beyoncé or Taylor Swift is bigger lmao. ATRL is not the forum to talk about maturity 

[45seconds]

9 minutes ago, Perth said:

First part I agree with, second - meh. If people want to waste their money buying 287338 variations of something (and if it’s legitimate and now 10 tracks out of a 26 track album), then they should feel free to. 
 

I do think the pathological liar is trying to divert her stans from the real reason billboard won’t count sales and it’s because of her fraudulent vinyls. FRAUD

Except they didn’t know it would be half the album lol. 

[lgaga1fan]

4 minutes ago, Monster Queen said:

No, this is not something that only happened to Nicki. Billboard most likely had reached out to multiple artists (including Taylor) multiple times, the biggest difference is other people won't melt down and directly point it out on public platforms like Nicki did here. Billboard changed its rules multiple times to limit Taylor's selling strategy, including not counting the website single sales (this year), not counting the album sales with merch (before Midnights release), only counting the physical sales that has been shipped out for that week's chart to reduce her debut number, etc. Why you act this only happened to Nicki? 

Queen's release 5 years ago entirely changed rules regarding Merch and Tour bundling with albums. Nicki's single releases have also changed their rules (Trollz). I never claimed this only happened to Nicki either. I pointed out how this happens EVERY time she releases and has been happening for years now. We can easily point out other artists that this has happened to, like BTS (which I noted in other posts that you clearly didnt read). These rules weren't placed in reaction towards Taylors releases at all and she has never been negatively affected by them either because she sells so highly. The only one you could possibly argue was placed because of her was in reaction to Cruel Summer, and even then the digital website single sale rule was enacted before that.

 

Side note: The physical album sales rules makes ******* sense too if we wanna talk about how they're "negatively" affecting Taylor. How are they counting sales on products that are literally non-existent and using them on charts? That doesnt work in ANY other industry expect music and was dealt with accordingly. They should be shipped on time and counted in the week they're shipped. You're bringing up irrelevant points to attempt to invalidate the fact that Nicki is punished for playing by the same rules that Taylor plays by. 

 

My posts on here are pointing out that Nicki is being negatively affected by playing the same game as everybody else. Whether you like her or not its very plain to see that. Her public reactions don't change reality, and honestly its refreshing because her antics are opening up conversations about how ludicrous Billboard is as a centerpiece of the music industry right now. 

[Peak Now]

Isn't this just about the "incentivized buying" rule (usually album bundles but could mean other types of incentives) that has been a thing for years now? I don't think the fact that the vinyl has only 10 track matters here.

 

Come to think of it, didn't Queen get blocked by Astroworld precisely due to album bundles... and didn't Nicki make a fuss of that too... 

[justin.]

1 minute ago, dumbsparce said:

I'm confused. I thought this would be about the vinyls containing half the album but it seems to be about sth else that I can't quite figure out based on her tweets.

It probably is about the vinyls, but she's a graduate of Trump University.

[ImpressMeMuch]

Cardi running to twitter during her hiatus you just know she has post notifications on for her mother

 

 

[Beyle Street]

The Barbz, amongst the most misogynistic of fanbases, display their misogynoir at every other female rapper (especially Megan) are now trying to use that black woman card when Nicki doesn't get her way.... you couldn't ask for better comedy. 

She is irrationally infuriated that, even though 200k is better than what she did for Queen and that she is still actually getting the #1, she couldn't game the system in a way that wouldn't show her true status and power. She's not the shiny new toy anymore with the GP's breezy attention nipping at her new content. 300k was comin from WHERE exactly ? Spotify numbers are ABYSMAL and iTunes doesn't have the same impact as it did even back in 2018. 205k is actually decent for her (not amazing since it has 22 tracks but still not a complete failure of a debut) but because it's not surpassing IOP, it's still not enough for her. "They're taking away our sales cause they scared of our power" is Trump'd to a T. 

 Her and the Bawbz are so focused on debuts that they forgetting allll about what to do to stabilize this. You think the numbers are not enough now? Wait until that 2nd and 3rd week COLLAPSE. Instead of ranting and rambling, focus on milking tf out of EVERYBODY as a single and get to work. That should've been a single for a while but since it wasn't, it should've been plugged on radio the SECOND the album dropped. Longevity will always win if you work for it but she don't know what that is no more 

[Hurem]

How are her fans not embarrassed of her omfg

[airplane]

 

The parralels 

[qurl]

billboard really does hate her tho  

[abelfenty]

Just now, qurl said:

billboard really does hate her tho  

Or maybe the GP just dgaf about her new releases 

[truthteller]

Why is she not content with that 205k figure  

[CatchIt]

I don’t really get the argument that vinyl sales shouldn’t count because it contains less tracks. Artistes are always releasing “deluxe” versions of their albums with additional songs - should the sales for their deluxe versions be counted separately from the original version too? What difference does it make if people bought a vinyl with less songs? It’s still a subset of the album. 
 

Don’t artistes often sell exclusive versions of albums with different tracks from the version on Spotify? Should all of those not count too? 
 

At the end of the day, it’s all political. Kpop artistes have, for years, “manipulated” the charts by releasing numerous versions of their albums (with different photo cards, covers etc.). Just look at their physical sales figures versus their streaming figures. Nicki has for the most part had an almost equal balance of physical sales vis-à-vis her streaming units. But somehow Billboard hasn’t changed their rules for Kpop artistes (rightfully so because Billboard’s role should simply be to track how many albums are being purchased regardless of cost / as long as it’s not being given out for free) but when it comes to Nicki, they’re always finding some way to stop the Barbz. 

[Off The Wall]

Just now, truthteller said:

Why is she not content with that 205k figure  

Simple really - because it’s less than IOP.

[JBJT2786]

205k is great for her....what is she doing

[teenager]

if billboard took away sales for barbs posting proof of purchase, that is dumb as hell… but Nicki has a habit of not telling the truth so it wouldn’t surprise me if it was something else
 

releasing a vinyl with less than half the actual tracks, then releasing a new version every day with one new track so it can be repurchased and count for billboard being $5 is new lows of desperation. of course all our faves play the charts, have different variants and such but this was frankly getting out of hand and there’s a difference between playing the game and exploiting the system
 

Will wait to see if billboard comments - and to be honest, didn’t they give Nicki the #1 with say so when it wasn’t even weighted heavier than the original? Plus the #1 with 6ix9ine so it’s hard to say whether they’re being unfair or not when they’ve let the fraudulence slide before