celeb news Billboard warns Nicki, threatens to lower PF2 first week sales

[Material Girl]

1 minute ago, Ms. Togekiss said:

Wrong, she’s predicted to sell 90k measly copies and move 205k total SPS units

yes that's how music works in 2023, welcome to the present grandma 

[Ms. Togekiss]

6 minutes ago, Pink Whitney said:

 

this is SENDING me, why would Billboard care if they support female rappers or not? 

In their eyes the only way Nicki can stay on top with her reduced fraudulent numbers is if no other female rapper ever gets their support. They can already see the Lil Kim treatment coming for granny they’re just getting ready for it

[Nickimeetsatrl]

1 minute ago, Ms. Togekiss said:

Wrong, she’s predicted to sell 90k measly copies and move 205k total SPS units

90k pure sales is bad for a female rapper in 2023? Stop judging her on the metric of Taylor Swift…

[lgaga1fan]

Just now, MidnightsAtPeace said:

she's an artist who is willing to sell her art, and she never really begged her fans on the internet to buy her albums, she just makes albums and puts them on her website for pre-order. she's never encouraged her fans to blindly buy a record which would give them the opportunity to do or earn something from it. she just promotes her music, and it's the fans who are willing to BUY even if there's no bonus in buying. She's Taylor Swift, she can randomly release an album and sell 600k vinyls in a single week, without even mentioning it on her Instagram or Twitter accounts.

Reputation:

- encouraged fans to buy multiple albums in order to get presale access

- had ticketmaster partner with her to create this system that tracked every individual sale of the album in order to leverage her chart potential

- the tour didnt even sell out instantaneously like the Eras tour so this system really showed how it was created in order to help her maximize its chart potential

- took the album off of streaming entirely for weeks in order to maximize its charting potential

 

Lover:

- released with 4 exclusive target albums

- gave presale access to her tour early for fans taht bought the album + reputation tour tickets

- released SEVERAL remixes of Cruel Summer this year alone in order to push it over to #1

 

Midnights:

- encouraged fans to buy the album and merch for the album in order to get access to the tour presale

- discounted singles to maximize chart points and positions

 

Evermore:

- discounted willow for a chance at securing #1

- Released extensive remixes for willow in order to get it to chart high

 

Folklore:

- Had 16 vinyl variants available for purchase release week that didn't even ship out til months later

 

Taylor doesn't just "make albums and put them out" She's part of the industry and is leveraging her fanbase and image to get maximum PROFIT from them. I don't follow her obsessively like half this site does and was able to make a list of her utilizing the same strategies that Nicki is utilizing. Just because she's not spoon feeding the intention behind her promotion strategies to her fans doesn't make them any less transparent. Mind you, I personally own EVERY Taylor Swift record and don't own any of Nicki's. I'm not bringing her up to make a stupid comparison, I'm bringing her up because she's the clearest example in the music industry currently of utilizing promotional tactics that encourage mass buying of singles and albums. 

 

Nicki made a simple tweet asking her fans to show the albums they had already purchased and she wanted to do something special for her top fans. I genuinely don't see what's wrong with that considering it was a simple twitter thread. If they wanna take away her sales that's their prerogative but acting like she's committing mass fraud when Billboard has already shown their willingness to change their rules SEVERAL times in reactions to Nicki's releases specifically just shows inherent bias against her. For all of the cringe **** that Onika has done over the years this isn't that. Bringing up the fact that the "most popular" artist exhibits the same promotional strategies is to make a point that there is an inherent bias against her. 

[Everyperfectsummer]

29 minutes ago, Nickimeetsatrl said:

Damn the comments in here, imagine trying to silence someone speaking out because they believe they are being treated unfairly…

 

I see what side of history y’all users are on..

We don't need to imagine sh*t https://www.thedailybeast.com/nicki-minaj-and-husband-kenneth-pettys-campaign-to-silence-his-sexual-assault-victim

 

[Diet Pepsi]

7 minutes ago, Nickimeetsatrl said:

The thing is she’s not underperforming by any means… she predicted to sell 205k before this..

With how many variants & only being $5? 

[Bimbo]

Just now, Everyperfectsummer said:

We don't need to imagine sh*t https://www.thedailybeast.com/nicki-minaj-and-husband-kenneth-pettys-campaign-to-silence-his-sexual-assault-victim

 

Ouuuuu the clock 

 

[Vespertine]

All this drama and desperation over a 200k debut is what’s sending me the most  

[lgaga1fan]

7 minutes ago, UseYourIllusion2002 said:

I agree with you but I don't think Adele has ever had multiple versions of one album or even a deluxe version. She releases albums like it's 90s. And Olivia is not on Taylor Swift's level of releases. She had a hidden track on her vinyl album, but that's been a common practice since the 90s. She also only had one cover variant for Guts available at Target, which is pretty standard with most big releases. Either Walmart or Target will get an exclusive cover. 

Adele was a pretty erroneous example and probably a misstep on my part. I just feel that she had the most high profile release out of most female artists and that included extensive vinyl variants, which is why i mentioned her. You are right in saying her situation is very different. 

[Ms. Togekiss]

2 minutes ago, Nickimeetsatrl said:

90k pure sales is bad for a female rapper in 2023? Stop judging her on the metric of Taylor Swift…

Wrong, I’m judging her based on her own fans’ predictions. So now you tell me, is she underperforming or is her fanbase full of delulu clowns? 

 

[Konril]

I can always count on Nicki to give me the giggles when it comes to album release rollout, with that said 205k is really great for her tbh.

[MidnightsAtPeace]

Just now, lgaga1fan said:

Reputation:

- encouraged fans to buy multiple albums in order to get presale access

- had ticketmaster partner with her to create this system that tracked every individual sale of the album in order to leverage her chart potential

- the tour didnt even sell out instantaneously like the Eras tour so this system really showed how it was created in order to help her maximize its chart potential

- took the album off of streaming entirely for weeks in order to maximize its charting potential

 

Lover:

- released with 4 exclusive target albums

- gave presale access to her tour early for fans taht bought the album + reputation tour tickets

- released SEVERAL remixes of Cruel Summer this year alone in order to push it over to #1

 

Midnights:

- encouraged fans to buy the album and merch for the album in order to get access to the tour presale

- discounted singles to maximize chart points and positions

 

Evermore:

- discounted willow for a chance at securing #1

- Released extensive remixes for willow in order to get it to chart high

 

Folklore:

- Had 16 vinyl variants available for purchase release week that didn't even ship out til months later

 

Taylor doesn't just "make albums and put them out" She's part of the industry and is leveraging her fanbase and image to get maximum PROFIT from them. I don't follow her obsessively like half this site does and was able to make a list of her utilizing the same strategies that Nicki is utilizing. Just because she's not spoon feeding the intention behind her promotion strategies to her fans doesn't make them any less transparent. Mind you, I personally own EVERY Taylor Swift record and don't own any of Nicki's. I'm not bringing her up to make a stupid comparison, I'm bringing her up because she's the clearest example in the music industry currently of utilizing promotional tactics that encourage mass buying of singles and albums. 

 

Nicki made a simple tweet asking her fans to show the albums they had already purchased and she wanted to do something special for her top fans. I genuinely don't see what's wrong with that considering it was a simple twitter thread. If they wanna take away her sales that's their prerogative but acting like she's committing mass fraud when Billboard has already shown their willingness to change their rules SEVERAL times in reactions to Nicki's releases specifically just shows inherent bias against her. For all of the cringe **** that Onika has done over the years this isn't that. Bringing up the fact that the "most popular" artist exhibits the same promotional strategies is to make a point that there is an inherent bias against her. 

all this and she still doesn't open her Instagram or Twitter accounts to rant about some chart position.

 

I never said that Taylor doesn't care about charts, but she's always had her ways of maximizing her chance of success, and her ways usually are based on rules and things that Billboard already accepts.

 

Also unlike Nicki, Taylor has never had meltdowns on the Internet and she has never begged her fans to buy her albums, they just buy her albums because they want to.

[Both Sides Now]

1 minute ago, Konril said:

I can always count on Nicki to give me the giggles when it comes to album release rollout, with that said 205k is really great for her tbh.

 

Agreed. 200K is a very decent debut.
 

She should have saved the “Billboard cancelled my sales!” excuse for Week 2 because…… 

 

[Ms. Togekiss]

4 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

Reputation:

- encouraged fans to buy multiple albums in order to get presale access

- had ticketmaster partner with her to create this system that tracked every individual sale of the album in order to leverage her chart potential

- the tour didnt even sell out instantaneously like the Eras tour so this system really showed how it was created in order to help her maximize its chart potential

- took the album off of streaming entirely for weeks in order to maximize its charting potential

 

Lover:

- released with 4 exclusive target albums

- gave presale access to her tour early for fans taht bought the album + reputation tour tickets

- released SEVERAL remixes of Cruel Summer this year alone in order to push it over to #1

 

Midnights:

- encouraged fans to buy the album and merch for the album in order to get access to the tour presale

- discounted singles to maximize chart points and positions

 

Evermore:

- discounted willow for a chance at securing #1

- Released extensive remixes for willow in order to get it to chart high

 

Folklore:

- Had 16 vinyl variants available for purchase release week that didn't even ship out til months later

 

Taylor doesn't just "make albums and put them out" She's part of the industry and is leveraging her fanbase and image to get maximum PROFIT from them. I don't follow her obsessively like half this site does and was able to make a list of her utilizing the same strategies that Nicki is utilizing. Just because she's not spoon feeding the intention behind her promotion strategies to her fans doesn't make them any less transparent. Mind you, I personally own EVERY Taylor Swift record and don't own any of Nicki's. I'm not bringing her up to make a stupid comparison, I'm bringing her up because she's the clearest example in the music industry currently of utilizing promotional tactics that encourage mass buying of singles and albums. 

 

Nicki made a simple tweet asking her fans to show the albums they had already purchased and she wanted to do something special for her top fans. I genuinely don't see what's wrong with that considering it was a simple twitter thread. If they wanna take away her sales that's their prerogative but acting like she's committing mass fraud when Billboard has already shown their willingness to change their rules SEVERAL times in reactions to Nicki's releases specifically just shows inherent bias against her. For all of the cringe **** that Onika has done over the years this isn't that. Bringing up the fact that the "most popular" artist exhibits the same promotional strategies is to make a point that there is an inherent bias against her. 

No this mega meltdown over 90k sales

[Vespertine]

16 minutes ago, Pink Whitney said:

 

this is SENDING me, why would Billboard care if they support female rappers or not? 

Right   

 

I mean, sure, don’t support any other female rappers. That’s exactly what Narcissus Minaj wants anyways  

[Orsay]

Even if what she’s saying is true why is she telling the bjarbz to stop streaming and buying the album entirely?  

[Ms. Togekiss]

6 minutes ago, Material Girl said:

yes that's how music works in 2023, welcome to the present grandma 

So you must know then the appropriate terms used nowadays, which also means that you must be aware of the free fall that is incoming for week 2

[By the Water]

Barbz think Billboard is threatened by a 200k debut?

 

[abelfenty]

 

She literally sounds like Donald Trump saying the election was rigged 

[lgaga1fan]

1 minute ago, Ms. Togekiss said:

No this mega meltdown over 90k sales

A meltdown you clearly didn't read where I clearly stated I objectively enjoy Taylor's music more than Nicki's and have supported her throughout her entire career. Thanks for helping to prove my point that threads like this are more interested in tearing Nicki down than having an actual conversation about her sales and the music industries current practices. 

[family.guy123]

I’ve read about 30 seconds worth of this but I think I’m on Nicki’s side. Other high profile artists pull comparable stunts. ATRL widely accepts that Billboard sabotaged Dua Lipa specifically mind you so why not this. 

[Vespertine]

1 minute ago, Orsay said:

Even if what she’s saying is true why is she telling the bjarbz to stop streaming and buying the album entirely?  

Right

 

Okay Nicki, make fewer coins during your debut week. That’ll show Billboard! 

 

I guess if anyone questions her debut week, she can claim it would’ve been stronger ~if she hadn’t told the Barbs to stop supporting it~
 

 

[The7thStranger]

It doesn't matter how many fans she has, how many records she sells, how many hits she has. Nicki Minaj will always be a loser at her core.

[Young Volcanoes]

they are so hot for this 

[Zolanski.]

8 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

Reputation:

- encouraged fans to buy multiple albums in order to get presale access

- had ticketmaster partner with her to create this system that tracked every individual sale of the album in order to leverage her chart potential

- the tour didnt even sell out instantaneously like the Eras tour so this system really showed how it was created in order to help her maximize its chart potential

- took the album off of streaming entirely for weeks in order to maximize its charting potential

 

Lover:

- released with 4 exclusive target albums

- gave presale access to her tour early for fans taht bought the album + reputation tour tickets

- released SEVERAL remixes of Cruel Summer this year alone in order to push it over to #1

 

Midnights:

- encouraged fans to buy the album and merch for the album in order to get access to the tour presale

- discounted singles to maximize chart points and positions

 

Evermore:

- discounted willow for a chance at securing #1

- Released extensive remixes for willow in order to get it to chart high

 

Folklore:

- Had 16 vinyl variants available for purchase release week that didn't even ship out til months later

 

Taylor doesn't just "make albums and put them out" She's part of the industry and is leveraging her fanbase and image to get maximum PROFIT from them. I don't follow her obsessively like half this site does and was able to make a list of her utilizing the same strategies that Nicki is utilizing. Just because she's not spoon feeding the intention behind her promotion strategies to her fans doesn't make them any less transparent. Mind you, I personally own EVERY Taylor Swift record and don't own any of Nicki's. I'm not bringing her up to make a stupid comparison, I'm bringing her up because she's the clearest example in the music industry currently of utilizing promotional tactics that encourage mass buying of singles and albums. 

 

Nicki made a simple tweet asking her fans to show the albums they had already purchased and she wanted to do something special for her top fans. I genuinely don't see what's wrong with that considering it was a simple twitter thread. If they wanna take away her sales that's their prerogative but acting like she's committing mass fraud when Billboard has already shown their willingness to change their rules SEVERAL times in reactions to Nicki's releases specifically just shows inherent bias against her. For all of the cringe **** that Onika has done over the years this isn't that. Bringing up the fact that the "most popular" artist exhibits the same promotional strategies is to make a point that there is an inherent bias against her.