Off The Wall Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, alexrex said: She's a 40yo woman with a child at home, and still fighting about charts on twitter One would think at that age you may start to mature a lil bit. 41
Diet Pepsi Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 They should throw out the vinyl sales too since it’s not even half the album being sold 4 6
Both Sides Now Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nickimeetsatrl said: I am certain if Taylor Swift did this, it would not be an issue. And that’s sad that all artist are not treated fairly… Taylor doesn’t need to do this. 1 1
Stepfon Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Just now, Zolanski. said: She’s pointing out the hypocrisy - I don’t see why this is an issue? But the thing is that she is making it seem like Cardi and Meg used CashApp to get people to stream/buy WAP and that is not the case at all. 1
lgaga1fan Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Just now, KatyPrismSpirit said: this is literally racism if they actually take away her sales. didn't taylor do something similar by encouraging fans to buy FOUR midnights vinyls to make a clock? or to buy four 1989 TV vinyls to have the back covers of the vinyls spell out 1989. If they end up sabotaging her im done following this chart. When BTS and Nicki push the rules to the extreme its suddenly "fraud" but when other artists like Olivia, Taylor and Adele do the exact same promo strategy its valid in their eyes. Billboard has shown their ass pretty well in regards to their "rules" with bulk sales. Either allow bulk sales or dont allow them at all at this point. Don't get me wrong I have a LOT of issues with Nicki lately in regard to this album rollout, but she is not in the wrong here. I don't see her pushing the rules of the establishment as a bad thing at all. The fact that the exact same thing happened during Queen and might happen again is a bit disheartening though. 9 6 1
Zolanski. Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: didn't taylor do something similar by encouraging fans to buy FOUR midnights vinyls to make a clock? or to buy four 1989 TV vinyls to have the back covers of the vinyls spell out 1989. If they end up sabotaging her im done following this chart. 1
Nickimeetsatrl Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Just now, Both Sides Now said: Taylor doesn’t need to do this. It’s not the point. Anyway I am not going to argue this point that is quite clear…
Material Girl Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 1 minute ago, lgaga1fan said: When BTS and Nicki push the rules to the extreme its suddenly "fraud" but when other artists like Olivia, Taylor and Adele do the exact same promo strategy its valid in their eyes. Billboard has shown their ass pretty well in regards to their "rules" with bulk sales. Either allow bulk sales or dont allow them at all at this point. Don't get me wrong I have a LOT of issues with Nicki lately in regard to this album rollout, but she is not in the wrong here. I don't see her pushing the rules of the establishment as a bad thing at all. The fact that the exact same thing happened during Queen and might happen again is a bit disheartening though. thank you! 1
glitch Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 A class action lawsuit over a damn chart position All of her rants saying she's all about making real music but at the end of the day all that seems to matter is the numbers. After everything she's achieved and the impact she's had she'll never be happy. It's actually quite sad 1
Zolanski. Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said: When BTS and Nicki push the rules to the extreme its suddenly "fraud" but when other artists like Olivia, Taylor and Adele do the exact same promo strategy its valid in their eyes. Billboard has shown their ass pretty well in regards to their "rules" with bulk sales. Either allow bulk sales or dont allow them at all at this point. Don't get me wrong I have a LOT of issues with Nicki lately in regard to this album rollout, but she is not in the wrong here. I don't see her pushing the rules of the establishment as a bad thing at all. The fact that the exact same thing happened during Queen and might happen again is a bit disheartening though. End thread
lgaga1fan Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Just now, Both Sides Now said: Taylor doesn’t need to do this. She doesnt need to but she did it anyways and has done it now for YEARS. People conveniently forget that Taylor encouraged fans to mass buy albums for both of her last tours in order to get access to presales. Each of her albums since 2020 has multiple versions available, she discounts singles to the cheapest price possible to gain chart points, etc. Nicki is demonstrating the same behavior and pushing further past that and it really points out how bullshit the current system Billboard has for evaluating the popularity of releases is. Either make a new system and change the rules as is or come up with a new system to evaluate the popularity of these records. 4 15 5
Donquizote Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said: When BTS and Nicki push the rules to the extreme its suddenly "fraud" but when other artists like Olivia, Taylor and Adele do the exact same promo strategy its valid in their eyes. Billboard has shown their ass pretty well in regards to their "rules" with bulk sales. Either allow bulk sales or dont allow them at all at this point. Don't get me wrong I have a LOT of issues with Nicki lately in regard to this album rollout, but she is not in the wrong here. I don't see her pushing the rules of the establishment as a bad thing at all. The fact that the exact same thing happened during Queen and might happen again is a bit disheartening though. Adele never resorted to cheap gimmick to sell records. 1
Popular Post Nickimeetsatrl Posted December 14, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) There is clearly a double standard in the industry and on this website. If artist like Taylor speaks out, this site will congratulate her about being fearless and Empowering. But if Nicki speaks out, she’s the angry black woman again… Edited December 14, 2023 by Nickimeetsatrl 14 4 1
Mornings Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said: She's pushing the absurdity of these rules to their absolute limit. That's not an invalid thing to do. Same thing happened with Queen and the album bundles and they changed their rules in a reactionary manner. To me it doesn't really matter if its a "right" or "wrong" way of consuming this music bc the music industy doesn't have a "fair" way to catalogue its own sales and numbers atm. you're right, but when you do weird stuff to get tons of album sales, no matter who you are, sometimes that weird stuff ends in weird results. It's not comparable to Taylor who had all of the different versions of the album planed out and labeled accordingly (like the 3am version of the album for example), nicki is literally just winging this and expecting everyone to keep up with her in real time. we all have jobs and a life. Edited December 14, 2023 by Mornings
Caribbean Boy Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, Donquizote said: Giving me " Nicki Minaj sits at her vanity. She inserts her blue contacts and brushes her long, straight, platinum blonde wig. Her skin glows white with foundation. She adjusts her breast implants in her tank top and squeezes her butt implants into a pair of tight jeans. Then she picks up her phone to tweet that she was snubbed by the VMAs because the media favors white-friendly images and supports negative body images." Had to edit all the grammatical errors and typos huh?
abelfenty Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 She just wants to delude her Trump-like fanbase into thinking her sales were much higher than they actually were so the Bawbz can talk about how “sabotaged” she was because they took away imaginary sales 1 1
Ms. Togekiss Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Not her already coming up with excuses to cover up her fraud and inevitable bombing and the tracking week is not even over yet 5 1
Stepfon Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Now, she is on Twitter liking shady tweets about Cardi & Meg:
Nickimeetsatrl Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Just now, glitch said: A class action lawsuit over a damn chart position All of her rants saying she's all about making real music but at the end of the day all that seems to matter is the numbers. After everything she's achieved and the impact she's had she'll never be happy. It's actually quite sad It may not be important to you but that is her field of work, that is the metric that she is judge on. If I am being treated unfairly by the metric in my work, I will also speak out. I don’t think silencing her by saying that it’s silly is fair. 7
Caribbean Boy Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, glitch said: A class action lawsuit over a damn chart position All of her rants saying she's all about making real music but at the end of the day all that seems to matter is the numbers. After everything she's achieved and the impact she's had she'll never be happy. It's actually quite sad So because she’s focus on the music she should turn a blind eye on blatant discrimination?…….sometimes yall need to get a life outside of atrl and touch grass 1
Off The Wall Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Just now, Stepfon said: Now, she is on Twitter liking shady tweets about Cardi & Meg: Christ. WAP still has her so pressed almost 4 years later. Nicki will never get over the fact that Cardi and Meg outdid her at her own game. 5
KingBeyonce. Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Listen we all know that Nicki can be a mess and a half but what exactly is wrong about what she's saying here? Why would sales not count just because she's asking fans to post proof of their purchases? Sounds petty on Billboard's part. 8
Ms. Togekiss Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stepfon said: Now, she is on Twitter liking shady tweets about Cardi & Meg: According to the Barbz Billboard is so “scared” of 90k sales 13
Sheep Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: this is why billboard has become increasingly useless. !!!!!!!! ppl both online and in the industry cheer every time billboard pulls a new rule out of their asses to delegitimize certain artists but all it's doing is making Billboard a worse measure of music commerce and consumption 4
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