celeb news Billboard warns Nicki, threatens to lower PF2 first week sales

[DAP]

Hmm

 

[Vespertine]

5 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

These rules weren't placed in reaction towards Taylors releases at all and she has never been negatively affected by them either because she sells so highly.

Demonstrably not true. The “physicals need to ship” rule AND the end of album+merch bundles both clearly affected evermore’s first week, which was significantly less than folklore’s. 

 

I can’t believe you think it’s more reasonable not to count physical pre-orders placed during first week (for a surprise album, so physicals can’t be made without leaks) but we’re in here talking about how a vinyl should count when it contains less than half the album  Nicki is scamming her fans into paying full price for less than half the real product  

[thirdward]

2 minutes ago, truthteller said:

Why is she not content with that 205k figure  

Cardi sold more 

[JBJT2786]

Just now, Off The Wall said:

Simple really - because it’s less than IOP.

It's not like Cardi would get this number if she released today ( and I like Cardi)

[TiaTamera]

32 minutes ago, Nickimeetsatrl said:

And the person who causes it always happens to be Asian or black…

Are you sure*

 

28 minutes ago, Monster Queen said:

No, this is not something that only happened to Nicki. Billboard most likely had reached out to multiple artists (including Taylor) multiple times, the biggest difference is other people won't melt down and directly point it out on public platforms like Nicki did here. Billboard changed its rules multiple times to limit Taylor's selling strategy, including not counting the website single sales (this year), not counting the album sales with merch (before Midnights release), only counting the physical sales that has been shipped out for that week's chart (after folklore) to reduce her debut number, etc. Why you act this only happened to Nicki? 

yeah we won’t know unless other artists speak. For all we know she wasn’t the only one, just the only one making a fuss.

37 minutes ago, Perth said:

Her saying “vwalla” makes me scream every time 

 

I knew this was coming

Idk what’s worse, her being upset over 200k and a #1 13 years after her mainstream career or her getting a #2 with 185k almost 10 years into her career. It’s like she’s so ungrateful. She is light years ahead of any female rapper and most likely will always be and it’s like it’s never good enough for her. 185k as a female rapper and #2 almost 10 years into your career is already good enough, like jeez.

 

 

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A part of me wants to get twitter again just to read the comments under this. Latto is so messy and unnecessary. Like girl stay in your place 

35 minutes ago, Superbitch said:

It had massive streams and great sales first week BEFORE cash up after it had debuted at #1 already. 

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[6_INCH_HEELS]

I don’t believe a single word she says.  They’re getting her for those fraudulent vinyls like they’ve done others, like the Enconto soundtrack. How about artists simply stop trying to game the system and focus on the art. 
 

Shes so worried about her image. Like the first week is the only thing that matters? It’s all a projection. She/s telling people 300 because she’s trying to beat IOP’S first week. 
 

She’s a liar. 

[Bubble Tea]

1 hour ago, VeniceBeach said:

The wait for her inevitable meltdown was worth it 

The way we all knew it was coming without a doubt. Nicki can always be counted on for some kinda tirade.

[justin.]

2 minutes ago, Off The Wall said:

Simple really - because it’s less than IOP.

Her fans were also on Twitter telling her she was going to break Lauryn Hill’s record 

 

She’s such a sore loser

[elincomprendid]

12 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

Queen's release 5 years ago entirely changed rules regarding Merch and Tour bundling with albums. Nicki's single releases have also changed their rules (Trollz). I never claimed this only happened to Nicki either. I pointed out how this happens EVERY time she releases and has been happening for years now. We can easily point out other artists that this has happened to, like BTS (which I noted in other posts that you clearly didnt read). These rules weren't placed in reaction towards Taylors releases at all and she has never been negatively affected by them either because she sells so highly. The only one you could possibly argue was placed because of her was in reaction to Cruel Summer, and even then the digital website single sale rule was enacted before that.

 

Side note: The physical album sales rules makes ******* sense too if we wanna talk about how they're "negatively" affecting Taylor. How are they counting sales on products that are literally non-existent and using them on charts? That doesnt work in ANY other industry expect music and was dealt with accordingly. They should be shipped on time and counted in the week they're shipped. You're bringing up irrelevant points to attempt to invalidate the fact that Nicki is punished for playing by the same rules that Taylor plays by. 

 

My posts on here are pointing out that Nicki is being negatively affected by playing the same game as everybody else. Whether you like her or not its very plain to see that. Her public reactions don't change reality, and honestly its refreshing because her antics are opening up conversations about how ludicrous Billboard is as a centerpiece of the music industry right now. 

No rule was changed cause of TROLLZ…

[Popboi.]

Just now, CatchIt said:

I don’t really get the argument that vinyl sales shouldn’t count because it contains less tracks. Artistes are always releasing “deluxe” versions of their albums with additional songs - should the sales for their deluxe versions be counted separately from the original version too? What difference does it make if people bought a vinyl with less songs? It’s still a subset of the album. 
 

Don’t artistes often sell exclusive versions of albums with different tracks from the version on Spotify? Should all of those not count too? 
 

At the end of the day, it’s all political. Kpop artistes have, for years, “manipulated” the charts by releasing numerous versions of their albums (with different photo cards, covers etc.). Just look at their physical sales figures versus their streaming figures. Nicki has for the most part had an almost equal balance of physical sales vis-à-vis her streaming units. But somehow Billboard hasn’t changed their rules for Kpop artistes (rightfully so because Billboard’s role should simply be to track how many albums are being purchased regardless of cost / as long as it’s not being given out for free) but when it comes to Nicki, they’re always finding some way to stop the Barbz. 

It's down to what is registered as the album for Billboard. Since this is the first week, the vinyl tracklist might be considered "the standard", if there's a new version later with considerable less tracks, it's going to be a different entry.

 

This happened to Encanto (vinyl out later had considerable less songs), and if I'm not mistaken OneRepublic too (shortened a 16 track album to 10 later on to reduce pricing and attempt the album to chart better, but ended up with the album dropping even further as those sales didn't count... they deleted that shorter version right after ).

[thirdward]

1 minute ago, JBJT2786 said:

It's not like Cardi would get this number if she released today ( and I like Cardi)

but the thing is she still hasn’t released an album so IOP 285k? Is still her latest first week sales  

i can see cardi being petty and not releasing just for that 

[Vespertine]

3 minutes ago, CatchIt said:

I don’t really get the argument that vinyl sales shouldn’t count because it contains less tracks. Artistes are always releasing “deluxe” versions of their albums with additional songs - should the sales for their deluxe versions be counted separately from the original version too? What difference does it make if people bought a vinyl with less songs? It’s still a subset of the album. 

I mean… then it’s Nicki and her team’s fault for being too dumb to market it as standard and deluxe, isn’t it?   I don’t feel bad. 

 

(though 10 tracks vs. 26 is really pushing the idea of “bonus” tracks…)

[GentleDance]

9 minutes ago, airplane said:

 

The parralels 

 

Running her own chart account 

[Bey_Rihstan]

4 minutes ago, 6_INCH_HEELS said:

I don’t believe a single word she says.  They’re getting her for those fraudulent vinyls like they’ve done others, like the Enconto soundtrack. How about artists simply stop trying to game the system and focus on the art. 
 

Shes so worried about her image. Like the first week is the only thing that matters? It’s all a projection. She/s telling people 300 because she’s trying to beat IOP’S first week. 
 

She’s a liar. 

this exactly. Nicki is a boldfaced liar and is known to try and shift a narrative in her favor when she feels slighted 

[Apolonio ₃₄]

She DOES need to be held accountable for releasing an unfinished vinyl and expecting them to be accounted for. Let’s address that please. 

 

[TakeYouToHell]

6 minutes ago, CatchIt said:

I don’t really get the argument that vinyl sales shouldn’t count because it contains less tracks. Artistes are always releasing “deluxe” versions of their albums with additional songs - should the sales for their deluxe versions be counted separately from the original version too? What difference does it make if people bought a vinyl with less songs? It’s still a subset of the album. 

There’s a difference between for example having 15 tracks on physical copies and 4 bonus tracks than having 45% of the album on CD/vinyl 

[YellowRibbon]

This is the definition of peak clownery.

 

Barbz were hyping her own delusions of grandeur and setting her expectations way too high for months. Now that the release sold less than her nemesis' album, she's desperate and scrambling for pathetic excuses to justify this performance (which would be a decent first week for most artists). The industry is not against her, she's just having a meltdown because she feels "her legacy" is being threatened by new female artists. 

[ariesgroove]

i know she mentioned how queen did 185k with a 12 hour debut tracking lost and pf2 is doing 200k+ but i kinda think the number is accurate.

 

album sales in general have dropped since 2018 with the removal of bundles from charts, any pre mid october 2020 album benefited from them so it’s not a crime to attribute the album numbers to that. so i don’t really know if there’s some tomfoolery at play, truthfully. a 200k+ record is still amazing, 15 years into your career

[Digitalism]

1 hour ago, lgaga1fan said:

 

When BTS and Nicki push the rules to the extreme its suddenly "fraud" but when other artists like Olivia, Taylor and Adele do the exact same promo strategy its valid in their eyes. Billboard has shown their ass pretty well in regards to their "rules" with bulk sales. Either allow bulk sales or dont allow them at all at this point. Don't get me wrong I have a LOT of issues with Nicki lately in regard to this album rollout, but she is not in the wrong here. I don't see her pushing the rules of the establishment as a bad thing at all. The fact that the exact same thing happened during Queen and might happen again is a bit disheartening though. 

This tbh 

We all know they have allowed some artist to bend the rules 

I don't care about Nicki but It just makes Billboard look unprofessional.

[State of Grace.]

She's so deranged  And the way her delusional cult keeps feeding her ego & delusions in those replies isn't helping at all.

 

"ppl LOVE this album" 

 

[Bimbo]

2 minutes ago, Rogue said:

She DOES need to be held accountable for releasing an unfinished vinyl and expecting them to be accounted for. Let’s address that please. 

 

sdfsfg we're getting you that refund king

 

[Nickimeetsatrl]

9 minutes ago, Vespertine said:

Demonstrably not true. The “physicals need to ship” rule AND the end of album+merch bundles both clearly affected evermore’s first week, which was significantly less than folklore’s. 

 

I can’t believe you think it’s more reasonable not to count physical pre-orders placed during first week (for a surprise album, so physicals can’t be made without leaks) but we’re in here talking about how a vinyl should count when it contains less than half the album  Nicki is scamming her fans into paying full price for less than half the real product  

Yeah but both weren’t put in place because of her and that is the problem. A lot of artist usually copy her and it’s only when they do, billboard changes their rules. 

[justin.]

3 minutes ago, Rogue said:

She DOES need to be held accountable for releasing an unfinished vinyl and expecting them to be accounted for. Let’s address that please. 

 

I think jail is the only option. Scammers  deserve serious punishment!

[Apolonio ₃₄]

Just now, Bimbo said:

sdfsfg we're getting you that refund king

 

Run me back my coins AND I’m still keeping it. 
 

[6_INCH_HEELS]

3 minutes ago, Bey_Rihstan said:

this exactly. Nicki is a boldfaced liar and is known to try and shift a narrative in her favor when she feels slighted 

She had 6 mos to perfect this rollout and still fumbled. She is her worst enemy. People are over this victim **** she swear she don’t be on when she’s shading the other girls. But every album release “they’re out to get meee!”  Like, duck, **** up. Damn. 

 

Always got a victim story tucked in the chamber, but everyone else be using sympathy to sell? ****, at least Megs **** is real. Nicki just makes up **** when she doesn’t get her way and starts crying.