live performance Tate obliterates the stage performing “exes” live on Fallon

[Raphy23]

32 minutes ago, Where are you now? said:

It's so awesome to watch back through her hundreds of videos she uploaded to her youtube channel from age 7 to 17, doing dance competitions, performances and writing and singing original songs in her bedroom. She really worked her a** off for this moment and it shows! It's ignorant for anyone saying she's a faceless industry plant 

right! There's 5 adult men in here that are so jealous of a young 20 yo girl living her dream, that they thumbsdown OP with a video of her performing her butt off. 

Bye felicias! 

 

Edited December 13, 2023 by Raphy23

[Where are you now?]

2 hours ago, Espresso said:

Her vocal aesthetic will hold her back from having a long-term career, and that has nothing to do with vocal producers.

 

She’s trying to combine TikTok short spurts with the Lolita TRL dance breaks and do it all on max and all of it goes mid as a result.

 

The types of songs that are booming for her on streaming right now won’t sustain her past a decade unless she reinvents.

 

Unlike the TRL Lolita era with Britney, Jessica, and Mandy, the Murder Inc. era with J.Lo and Ashanti, the Disney girl era with Miley and Selena, the urban girl era with Rihanna and Ciara, the white bling girl era with Fergie, Nelly and Gwen, the pop renaissance era with Katy and Gaga and the moody girl era with Lana, Lorde and Billie, this girl is faceless. No backstory buildup, nothing to stand out.

 

There’s nothing distinct about her except the dance ability, which isn’t en vogue at the moment outside R&B and urban circles/radio/standoms.

 

She doesn’t have the fanbase loyalty and songwriting chops of SZA or Taylor (what she has in streaming hits are there for the songs, not her - they might as well have been sung by a tired Bebe Rexha).

 

There’s a lot of pop-Doja crossover here from her now but neither will be getting hits or filling arenas in a decade.

 

Call me when she cuts the rasp and whisper affectation and pulls off a downtempo ballad hit on streaming. Better yet, get back to me in a decade.

She actually does have a unique backstory -  slowly building a large following for nearly 10 years on her YouTube channel with no label support. Her success is not overnight, it's been very gradual. I know she might look faceless to you after you watched a couple performances of Greedy, but if you had actually done some research on her YouTube channel to learn her backstory or seen how charismatic and passionate she is in interviews, you would've learned she cares deeply about her craft. She's been working for this her whole life. She writes her own songs, coordinates her dance routines, has a hand in the music production, has killer work ethic, all while having a down to earth likeable personality. 

 

And she has countless downtempo ballads on streaming. Did you even bother to look before typing all that?

[yassskween]

3 hours ago, Espresso said:

Her vocal aesthetic will hold her back from having a long-term career, and that has nothing to do with vocal producers.

 

She’s trying to combine TikTok short spurts with the Lolita TRL dance breaks and do it all on max and all of it goes mid as a result.

 

The types of songs that are booming for her on streaming right now won’t sustain her past a decade unless she reinvents.

 

Unlike the TRL Lolita era with Britney, Jessica, and Mandy, the Murder Inc. era with J.Lo and Ashanti, the Disney girl era with Miley and Selena, the urban girl era with Rihanna and Ciara, the white bling girl era with Fergie, Nelly and Gwen, the pop renaissance era with Katy and Gaga and the moody girl era with Lana, Lorde and Billie, this girl is faceless. No backstory buildup, nothing to stand out.

 

There’s nothing distinct about her except the dance ability, which isn’t en vogue at the moment outside R&B and urban circles/radio/standoms.

 

She doesn’t have the fanbase loyalty and songwriting chops of SZA or Taylor (what she has in streaming hits are there for the songs, not her - they might as well have been sung by a tired Bebe Rexha).

 

There’s a lot of pop-Doja crossover here from her now but neither will be getting hits or filling arenas in a decade.

 

Call me when she cuts the rasp and whisper affectation and pulls off a downtempo ballad hit on streaming. Better yet, get back to me in a decade.

Please OLD stop writing whatever, you're old and wrong.

[poltergeist]

9 hours ago, FOCK said:

She’s getting a lot of credit for something somebody like Tinashe does better and with great material. 

why I will never get behind this girl

[Raphy23]

1 minute ago, poltergeist said:

why I will never get behind this girl

She’s brought up and praised Tinashe. This week in fact. You can celebrate both can you not? 

[Papi Juancho]

the vocals  but cute performance 

[anti-bitch]

3 hours ago, Espresso said:

 

She doesn’t have the fanbase loyalty and songwriting chops of SZA or Taylor (what she has in streaming hits are there for the songs, not her - they might as well have been sung by a tired Bebe Rexha).

This is a logical fallacy. First you said that she can't write, but then you're like "the songs are good, but she's not." But she wrote the songs!! They wouldn't exist without her.

 

And everyone is f*cking "faceless" when they start. That's not an argument at all, just empty words. I think Tate's done well to break out from the mass of thousands of girls who are trying to make it big on Tiktok and that without Disney promo machine support.

 

It was a bit upsetting to read your post here because I've seen you on the Civics side a lot and I thought you were cool... But here you just sound cocky with the bit about being able to predict future.

[anti-bitch]

1 hour ago, Where are you now? said:

It's so awesome to watch back through her hundreds of videos she uploaded to her youtube channel from age 7 to 17, doing dance competitions, performances and writing and singing original songs in her bedroom. She really worked her a** off for this moment and it shows! It's ignorant for anyone saying she's a faceless industry plant 

Yeah, I think the music industry is a lot more democratic now than it's ever been. Many old ATRL faves have had important friend or family connections to the industry that helped their careers early on, but now through Tiktok people can blow up from absolutely nowhere. And basically anyone can make music from home these days, no need to fight for studio time.

[jjmed59]

4 hours ago, Espresso said:

Call me when she cuts the rasp and whisper affectation and pulls off a downtempo ballad hit on streaming. Better yet, get back to me in a decade.

ermmm idk how to tell you this but thats exactly what her first billion streams smash was 

[SpaceOddity]

She's a fantastic dancer and I'm super excited she's leaning into that more and more. That dance break ate. That being said, this didn't compliment the song at all, I get that it's obviously hard to balance hard choreography and singing without losing your breath and she tried her best but I don't think her singing some parts and letting the track play for others did Exes any favors for how good it is. It might've been the live arrangement too. She should've focused on Tate the performer in my opinion and lipsynced. 

[TheGerm]

15 hours ago, flashfox said:

I can't take her voice seriously I am sorry

me either 

[znake]

 just finished work for today

 

Let me blast this performance again 

[Xtripped]

Great performance 

 

Atrl talking about vocals when they stan Taylor, Britney and Rihanna. 

 

I liked her new album but ngl she needs stronger material but this a good start.

[rac7d]

2 hours ago, poltergeist said:

why I will never get behind this girl

Jealousy 

[Marla Singer]

Boring performance. She would be really good as a backing dancer, but she's useless as a pop girl.

[OBEY]

17 hours ago, mrpartyrocker said:

She’s great but clearly she can’t dance and sing at the same time. It’s one or the other and this performance seems like it missed something. Again, she’s great but I don’t get the hype. Her music is so basic and doesn’t have anything special to it. She’ll be a one hit wonder it looks like…. 

How can she be a 1 hit wonder if she has a song with 1B streams on Spotify, the Tiesto collaboration and greedy which is smashing rn? like girl..

[TheGerm]

8 minutes ago, OBEY said:

How can she be a 1 hit wonder if she has a song with 1B streams on Spotify, the Tiesto collaboration and greedy which is smashing rn? like girl..

she'll be cute for a  moment and forgotten, youre delusional if you watched that and saw longevity lol  

[Vermillion]

3 hours ago, Where are you now? said:

She actually does have a unique backstory -  slowly building a large following for nearly 10 years on her YouTube channel with no label support. Her success is not overnight, it's been very gradual. I know she might look faceless to you after you watched a couple performances of Greedy, but if you had actually done some research on her YouTube channel to learn her backstory or seen how charismatic and passionate she is in interviews, you would've learned she cares deeply about her craft. She's been working for this her whole life. She writes her own songs, coordinates her dance routines, has a hand in the music production, has killer work ethic, all while having a down to earth likeable personality. 

 

And she has countless downtempo ballads on streaming. Did you even bother to look before typing all that?

I’ve seen about 20 of her interviews and I’m well aware of YouTube buildup, her ballads and background as an independent artist. I’m talking about them being charting hits, unless streaming longevity is our only barometer here. 
 

She has a loyal fanbase that will follow whatever she does inside or outside the mainstream. 

 

If we’re comparing her to Olivia or Billie as a touring force or festival headliner, I just don’t see it. 

 

I never implied she hasn’t worked hard to get where she is. Being sweet and working hard isn’t enough to get her where she clearly wants to go, or to last long doing it, but pop is fickle, especially in the streaming era.

[hétérosexuelle]

The dance break was decent but I wish it went a bit harder 

 

She can do better, we’ve seen it girlie 

[Raphy23]

14 minutes ago, Espresso said:

I’ve seen about 20 of her interviews and I’m well aware of YouTube buildup, her ballads and background as an independent artist. I’m talking about them being charting hits, unless streaming longevity is our only barometer here. 
 

She has a loyal fanbase that will follow whatever she does inside or outside the mainstream. 

 

If we’re comparing her to Olivia or Billie as a touring force or festival headliner, I just don’t see it. 

 

I never implied she hasn’t worked hard to get where she is. Being sweet and working hard isn’t enough to get her where she clearly wants to go, or to last long doing it, but pop is fickle, especially in the streaming era.

I tried getting tickets to her amphitheater show for next summer in my city, got waitlisted. Now tix are going for $250 in the very last row. 

[Leptine]

She ATE @The Witch

[Cheers]

The vocals were a mess. And she looks bored on stage. She just doesn’t ooze sexiness, confidence, and coolness. 

[DanyelP23]

My first time hearing the song.

The dance break was good.

The vocals gave bananis avocadis.

I appreciate that she only put the mic to her mouth when she actually sang (at least to me it looked live).

[The Witch]

2 hours ago, Leptine said:

She ATE @The Witch

Ga Ga is no longer needed i fear 

[Psyduck]

She is trying really hard but her music is so faceless and generic. She's molded herself to every trend since she first came out, first it was generic sad girl bedroom pop, then it was generic angsty 80s synth pop rock, now it's generic trap pop with choreo. She has been whatever she needs to be to get a hit in the moment but it just means she has no identity. It all reeks of industry writing camp. She's the perfect pop star for executives lacking imagination who want a safe bet and a pliable performer. The Jessica Simpson of this generation. Billie is Britney, Olivia is Xtina, and Tate is Jessica. GAYLE can be Willa Ford.